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Do you believe in God or is religion just a joke?

Butterfly wings

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Through what took place with Jennifer. I have kind of really just started praying more and seeking God and people that can help me figuere out alot of things. Anyways my question is.

Do you believe in God or are all religions just a big joke and a waste of time?
 
There is no question in my faith in God, it is what gets me through the hard times in my life. Im not one to preach or put pressure on others to do the same, all I can do is share my experience.

Kust
 
Butterfly wings said:
Do you believe in God or are all religions just a big joke and a waste of time?
Which god? And why are these the only choices?
 
Like German said, but I'd hardly call it a joke. It's the core existence for some people, so be careful how you say that. I believe in God yes, but I don't believe in being dogmatic about it. If praying helps you feel better, than keep doing it... see where it leads you spiritually.
 
Redmage said:
Which god? And why are these the only choices?

A. The God of the ''Bible''

B. Because i wanted it to only be two choices, Not anything more then that (it gets to off topic fast)
 
I truly believe in God and Jesus Christ and the holy spirt. The nicea creed is one of the most beautiful statements of belief in history, and this is coming from a person who teaches a bible study at a baptist church, which are non creedal.
 
I believe in the holy trinity, being god the father, god the son and god the holy spirit


God is not a dating service....
 
Religion is not a joke, son. It has engaged the minds and hearts of men and women, from the lowly to the great in all walks of life, throughout human history. Many will tell you it is a crutch for the weak and the feeble-minded. Even a quick perusal of the works of Saint Augustine, Thomas Aquinas, Tolstoy, Dostoevsky or G.K. Chesterton will expose that lie. Yes, there have been brilliant minds who disbelieved in God, as well: Voltaire, Twain, Shaw, etc. You will find that most of them (whether they acknowledged it or not) were attacking religious hypocrisy, folly and bigotry rather than the existence of God Himself. (C.S. Lewis wrote once that there was more holiness in the atheism of Percy Shelley than in the faith of many clergymen.)

I believe in God absolutely. I was raised a Christian, lost my faith at age 17 and scoffed for the next two decades, then gradually returned to God. My reasons are many and they range from the metaphysical to the purely emotional.
I can't do better for you than to recommend one book: Mere Christianity by C.S.Lewis. In clear, concise prose he builds up, plank by plank, the case for believing, first, in God Himself, and, secondly, in the divinity of Jesus Christ.
If you want to explore metaphysical reasons for believing in God, independent of any particular creed, the late Dr. Mortimer J. Adler's How To Think About God is excellent...and very brief, though philisophically rich.
 
Ignatz said:
Religion is not a joke, son. It has engaged the minds and hearts of men and women, from the lowly to the great in all walks of life, throughout human history. Many will tell you it is a crutch for the weak and the feeble-minded. Even a quick perusal of the works of Saint Augustine, Thomas Aquinas, Tolstoy, Dostoevsky or G.K. Chesterton will expose that lie. Yes, there have been brilliant minds who disbelieved in God, as well: Voltaire, Twain, Shaw, etc. You will find that most of them (whether they acknowledged it or not) were attacking religious hypocrisy, folly and bigotry rather than the existence of God Himself. (C.S. Lewis wrote once that there was more holiness in the atheism of Percy Shelley than in the faith of many clergymen.)

I believe in God absolutely. I was raised a Christian, lost my faith at age 17 and scoffed for the next two decades, then gradually returned to God. My reasons are many and they range from the metaphysical to the purely emotional.
I can't do better for you than to recommend one book: Mere Christianity by C.S.Lewis. In clear, concise prose he builds up, plank by plank, the case for believing, first, in God Himself, and, secondly, in the divinity of Jesus Christ.
If you want to explore metaphysical reasons for believing in God, independent of any particular creed, the late Dr. Mortimer J. Adler's How To Think About God is excellent...and very brief, though philisophically rich.


Iggy, i would like to ask you, if ud like to PM or reply here, what was the moment\incident that allowed you to regain your faith. Me personally, yes i believe in JESUS but i guess to be technical i am agnostic(i believe the God everyone worships is the same God, one God, many faces)
 
I do not however believe in religion. To me , religion is nothing more then rules picked out for a certain kind of believer so that they can find others like them or wanna-be like them. Almost robotic. Let's all wear the same clothes, the same walk, the same talk, the same personality..etc.

I believe in God, His Son and The Holy Spirit. Each person has to work there own faith out with fear and trembling.
 
Ticklerguy4u said:
I do not however believe in religion. To me , religion is nothing more then rules picked out for a certain kind of believer so that they can find others like them or wanna-be like them. Almost robotic. Let's all wear the same clothes, the same walk, the same talk, the same personality..etc.

I believe in God, His Son and The Holy Spirit. Each person has to work there own faith out with fear and trembling.


sorry i have to challenge, you state you feel religion being some kind of sheep type issue, yet you say you believe in god, his son and holy spirit. Wouldnt that be a part of the whole robotic\believe what everyone else does\ motiff?
 
Goodieluver said:
sorry i have to challenge, you state you feel religion being some kind of sheep type issue, yet you say you believe in god, his son and holy spirit. Wouldnt that be a part of the whole robotic\believe what everyone else does\ motiff?

I agree. I mean how can someone believe in God and in his son and the holy spirit? But yet not believe in religion at all at the same time. Doubting is ok because we all have doubts. But i don't see how it can work that way.
 
Butterfly wings said:
I agree. I mean how can someone believe in God and in his son and the holy spirit? But yet not believe in religion at all at the same time. Doubting is ok because we all have doubts. But i don't see how it can work that way.

I think it is more possible to believe in a trinity, but not have faith in religion, especially because of the reformation and the great schism because religion can also take a philosiphical force and not a governmental force in contemptary christian religion. One could agree with the nicea creed, but disagree with the schisms of eastern verse western, latin verse english, or understanding/agreeing with, john hus, martin lurther, john calvin, zwingli, etc. Christianity is so much more complex than a simple statement of faith, yet is so simple it is all that is needed. Some will look at this paragraph and see contradiction, others will see agreement. Yeah, holy, holy, holy, father, son and holy spirit.
 
Butterfly wings said:
Do you believe in God or are all religions just a big joke and a waste of time?

All religious thinking impairs the proper functioning of the brain.
 
yaqi said:
All religious thinking impairs the proper functioning of the brain.

Why do you say that yaqi? Do you mean impairs it as in makes it better or makes it worse?
 
Has anybody here read any books by Ravi Zacharias?

I haven't. But my dad at home has he has many books by him. Ravi is a thirty five years veteran of speaking the gosepl. He's from india.
 
Interesting.......impairs the brain and you came up with this how? Like I said in my first post I dont care if you believe or not and im not goin to question either way but throwing something like that up and walking away you should give some support to that statment.

Kust
 
german said:
Interesting.......impairs the brain and you came up with this how? Like I said in my first post I dont care if you believe or not and im not goin to question either way but throwing something like that up and walking away you should give some support to that statment.

Kust

I believe that the human need for religion and a god figure are direct outgrowths from consciousness. And I believe that consciousness is the cerebral equivilant of the appendix, the byproduct of having a brain in excess of 2000 cubic centimeters, and serves no useful function. There is a body of evidence to support this. I have been impressed by the work that Dean Falk of the Carribean Primate institute has done, in which it has been demonstrated, through the study of Australopithicine and early Homo hominid skull fossils that enlarged brain capacity preceeded cortical reorganization.

It has yet to be proven that intelligence has real survival value. Perhaps there's a plateau for intelligence that can't be exceeded.
 
I like that thesis, Yaqi...

"It's not a dating service"...well, it seems everyone has taken for him or herself the concept of Jesus that best suits; human nature, I guess. for most people I've met, Jesus serves as a supremely authoritarian figure that either supplements or replaces the father figure in their lives. For others, he's the inspiration to try to make the world a better place. My favorite Jesus is the one who threw hypocrisy and greed back in the faces of the authoritarian figures of his day...and I laugh at those hypocritical and greedy authoritarian figures in our day who shamelessly invoke his name.

It's human nature to craft deities (Biscuit notwithstanding, of course), to our own tastes. I'd bet that if the real God came down here, he'd be denied by all.
 
i dont like these type of threads because people can get angry and feelings can get hurt. actually this thread belongs in the political religion forum.

in a word yes i believe in God and if that makes me a joke, so be it... i will say this, i never judge because i am so far from perfect myself.

isabeau

well lets just say i try not to judge, but i'm only human and those times i have judged, i immediately regretted it. and asked forgiveness.
 
Knox The Hatter said:
I like that thesis, Yaqi...

"It's not a dating service"...for most people I've met, Jesus serves as a supremely authoritarian figure that either supplements or replaces the father figure in their lives.


That's because nothing in this world no matter what it is should come and go before God. God should always remain number one over everything. I think anyways.

All things are foolish in this world. Except the creator Jesus Christ himself. Everyman be a fool and a lier.
 
Butterfly wings said:
All things are foolish in this world. Except the creator Jesus Christ himself. Everyman be a fool and a lier.

If there had been a creator, his second act would have been to disappear.
 
isabeau said:
in a word yes i believe in God and if that makes me a joke, so be it... i will say this, i never judge because i am so far from perfect myself.
isabeau

That is not what i ment when i named the thread title sorry. I simply ment. Do you believe in God or is religion just a joke? (meaning if your one of thoses people that thinks religion is a waste of time and that it's all pointless and should be done away with).
 
isabeau said:
why do you say that?

isabeau

Intelligent Athenians of the fifth century knew their gods were metaphors, personifications of forces and principles. There are many signs that the athenianization of Christianity has begun. The second coming of Christ will be the realization that Jesus of Nazareth was supremely human, not supremely divine; but this will be to relegate him to the ranks of the philosophers and to reduce the vast apparatus of ritual, church and priesthood to an empty shell.
 
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