Does anybody know if it's a symptom...

[TKLVR181]

...Of depression to feel guilty about it? The past few weeks I've realized that the depression I suffered years ago may be returning, and I can't help but feel guilty about it. I know that's like feeling guilty about having cancer or something, completely irrational. I just don't feel like myself, and I don't feel like doing anything that might help. I just want to lie down and sleep...most days, quite honestly, I get up, go to school, and get on the computer and come here and MSN where all my close TT/TMF friends are. A friend of mine recently said that feeling guilty about it is actually a symptom of hte depression, does anybody have any input on this?

Also yes, tomorrow afternoon I'm going to my doctor to talk about upping my dose of anti-depressant. I'm on prozac. 😛

~K

 

[44blues1]

Yes, Karen, it can be a symptom, and a cure. Guilt is a desire to change the past and/or future. You have a doctor and many friends. Let them help you.

 

[Journia]

I agree. Also, I am able to help people on things like this. I am a consultant after all.

 

[U.N.Owen]

Guilt is a very common depressive symptom. Feeling that a situation is all your own fault is, after all, a classic part of being depressed. It's easy to feel that you somehow SHOULD be able to pull out of it, or stop it, or whatever.

Depression leads to more depression... it's important not to, for instance, feel guilty or wrong because you feel guilty about being depressed!

It's good that you're talking to your MD, which is the crucial thing that most depressed people don't do (too many people think it means you're "crazy" if you go to a doctor, but they're just there to help). But you know, if the Prozac doesn't seem to be working, talk to your doctor about other possibilites. Maybe Zoloft would work better for you, for example, or one of the other, newer meds.

 

[TKLVR181]

Journia--thanks buddy, talking to you does always seem to help😉

44 and U.N--Wow. Thank you guys so much for confirming this...it's a cycle, feel depressed, feel guilty about being depressed, feel depressed about feeling guilty...I've been kinda spirling downwards.

And U.N is right---it's a difficult thing to keep in mind there's a difference between a chemical imbalance and mental one 😛 Thanks guys, I'm going to my doctor this afternoon, I'll update ya'll this evening.

~K

 

[DarthGrinn]

well I personally don't have depression; but somebody very close to me does. I'm very glad that you are seeking help and taking proactive measures; that is a huge step.

I will keep you in my thoughts; keep steppin forward 🙂

 

[TKLVR181]

Thanks RTL.

Update---talked to my doctor yesterday. She knows I have a history of depression as well. She wrote me a perscription for a stronger dose of me meds (can't believe I'm telling everyone here I'm medicated >.> ) and to also get a therapist. I've had a therapist, but I recently stopped going to her because it just didn't seem to be helping anymore--that might be because I saw teh same therapist when I was in the 6th grade and she's still talking to me like it's the same kind of problems x_x. So I'm gonna find a new one (Not like you guys aren't great for that anyway :super_hap)

~K

 

[DarthGrinn]

Best of luck TKLVR18 🙂 just the fact that you are proactive about this is great xD

Just keep swimming /Dori voice 😛

 

[TKLVR181]

Best of luck TKLVR18 🙂 just the fact that you are proactive about this is great xD

Just keep swimming /Dori voice 😛

O.O Ooh good grief, now I'm gonna have that song on the brain all friggin night...😛

 

[tickle_fan031]

Thanks RTL.

Update---talked to my doctor yesterday. She knows I have a history of depression as well. She wrote me a perscription for a stronger dose of me meds (can't believe I'm telling everyone here I'm medicated >.> ) and to also get a therapist. I've had a therapist, but I recently stopped going to her because it just didn't seem to be helping anymore--that might be because I saw teh same therapist when I was in the 6th grade and she's still talking to me like it's the same kind of problems x_x. So I'm gonna find a new one (Not like you guys aren't great for that anyway :super_hap)

~K

That's good.Glad you've got a plan to try and make things better.And hey these days there's nothing wrong with being on medication.

I think seeing a Therapist is a good idea.The therapist I've been seeing has been great.I'm currently on this program called Cognitive Analytical Therapy (or something like that).It helps you discover the stuff that's happened to you in your past that still bothers you today,then you go onto look at your pattern on behaviours and how you can change your behaviour for the better and make you feel happier.I have often felt depressed and sometimes feel guilty coz I put up a front and pretend that everythings ok-when in actual fact I'm only fooling myself,nobody else.So now I'm trying to act more like 'me' and not put up a front.....2007 is definately gonna be my year....can feel it in my bones :happy: And for once I'm not depressed when the year is nearly over-woot! :content:

 

[TheChameleon]

^_^

although i don't do medication, i'm proud your working on a better you!

 

[Cbarton]

Nothing to feel guilty about, fair lady, and you did the right thing. Keep us posted on how well the therapy changes work. If you ever have any ?'s about your meds that your doc or pharmacist don't/can't answer, PM me...

 

[chickles_:)]

...Of depression to feel guilty about it? The past few weeks I've realized that the depression I suffered years ago may be returning, and I can't help but feel guilty about it. I know that's like feeling guilty about having cancer or something, completely irrational. I just don't feel like myself, and I don't feel like doing anything that might help. I just want to lie down and sleep...most days, quite honestly, I get up, go to school, and get on the computer and come here and MSN where all my close TT/TMF friends are. A friend of mine recently said that feeling guilty about it is actually a symptom of hte depression, does anybody have any input on this?

Also yes, tomorrow afternoon I'm going to my doctor to talk about upping my dose of anti-depressant. I'm on prozac. 😛

~K

Hiya Karen:flower:🙂
I'm so sorry to hear of the troubles you are facing these days. Though since it's been a little while since you posted perhaps things have improved some. I do hope and pray so.

I don't know if thise helps but i can offer a couple of observations.
This time of year is a time when people do actually get depressed. In many parts of the world the loud message is: "be happy, be joyful!" It's Hanuka, it's Christmas, it's New years etc. And when we don't feel in the mould with everyone else - it can trigger depression.
I don't know if this is your experience, but it can really hit if we have lost someone close in the last couple of years or if someone we care about is nearing an end.

Lastly, guilt and depression are kissing cousins if not twin sisters. 😉 Both are expressions of anger directed inward at ourselves. Sometimes that anger directed inward is a way of dealing with anger that we feel uncomfortable expressing outward (where maybe it belongs)

Karen, as to meds,, it's obviously up to you. But i remember in my family the messed up outcome when a family member started on meds and then quit them without consulting her physician... It was not good.

I hope the best for you, Karen! 🙂 You have great friends here and we're all with you in heart and prayers whatever you choose to do!

You go, girl!

Many blessings,
Chickles😍

 

[TKLVR181]

Thank you, Chickles. I'm having an episode at the moment, actually...it has gotten a bit better, the upped dose of meds helps, but I'm still having depressive episodes. It means the world to me that you guys are behind me like this *hugs all around*

~K

 

[PurrBast]

Perhaps you should think inside for the source of your guilt. Are you feeling poorly because you are afraid of becoming a burden for the family? Although, yes, medication may help with hormones and serotonin in your brain, discovering why you are depressed may be a logical step. By eliminating the reason of guilt you may then begin your way to healing, yes? Begin by telling yourself you have reason to be happy and think of all that normally does. Involve yourself in your community for I do not think it could hurt.

 

[Big_Dogg85]

Perhaps you should think inside for the source of your guilt. Are you feeling poorly because you are afraid of becoming a burden for the family? Although, yes, medication may help with hormones and serotonin in your brain, discovering why you are depressed may be a logical step. By eliminating the reason of guilt you may then begin your way to healing, yes? Begin by telling yourself you have reason to be happy and think of all that normally does. Involve yourself in your community for I do not think it could hurt.

That is definitely a very good way to look at it for sure, although it is easier said then done. Karen, I for one can't agree with meds only becuz I have seen the irreparable damage it can cause on several occasions; not only if the physician is an idiot and prescribes the wrong medication or, as Chickles as stated to have seen, if the person goes off the meds without documentation or spoken knowledge. It's your choice how you go about it, and whatever decision you have made or make, it is with the intention that it is best for you. Do know that all of us will have your back and we always will.
When the time is right, I think a change of scenery can provide a measure of relief: somewhere where you know you have friends more then willing to help.

🙂 :yellowsta :bluestar: :redstar:

 

[IrishTickle1]

You should also bear in mind that the meds alone will do nothing to stop it altogether. You may run the risk of becoming dependent on them, believing that they're all you need to get over it. I suffered from depression before and what actually really helped (which many people here will find hard to do 😀 ) is to just turn your computer off and go out into the world. Too many people focus more on their internet life and not their real lives. Human contact will always be more beneficial than words appearing on a screen.

And try to keep yourself occupied. Go out at every opportunity, no matter how stupid the reason. There's nothing worse than waking up on a monday morning and realising that you've done nothing with your weekend and now you've to go to college/work etc. You'd be amazed at the difference doing one activity during your weekend can change your outlook on monday.

Also, (and this goes for everyone reading this too!!!), two things that will definitely help are exercise and healthy diet. You'll build up more energy and won't feel as sluggish. Depression has a mental and a physical side, so you have to tackle both parts.

And finally, don't keep it all inside. You're not the only person in the world to feel like that. And it could be worse. At least it's not raining 🙂

 

[TKLVR181]

You should also bear in mind that the meds alone will do nothing to stop it altogether. You may run the risk of becoming dependent on them, believing that they're all you need to get over it. I suffered from depression before and what actually really helped (which many people here will find hard to do 😀 ) is to just turn your computer off and go out into the world. Too many people focus more on their internet life and not their real lives. Human contact will always be more beneficial than words appearing on a screen.

And try to keep yourself occupied. Go out at every opportunity, no matter how stupid the reason. There's nothing worse than waking up on a monday morning and realising that you've done nothing with your weekend and now you've to go to college/work etc. You'd be amazed at the difference doing one activity during your weekend can change your outlook on monday.

Also, (and this goes for everyone reading this too!!!), two things that will definitely help are exercise and healthy diet. You'll build up more energy and won't feel as sluggish. Depression has a mental and a physical side, so you have to tackle both parts.

And finally, don't keep it all inside. You're not the only person in the world to feel like that. And it could be worse. At least it's not raining 🙂

Oh thaaanks Irish, it IS raining!!!! 😀

Kidding. Actually yeah, this is a good point. I've gotten involved in my churches' youth group every Sunday, and I'm currently looking for a boyfriend (in my town, not long distance, guys!😀) and a couple of closer girlfriends, too. Thanks again guys, you ALL rock! 🙂

 

[IrishTickle1]

Oh thaaanks Irish, it IS raining!!!! 😀

Geez, no pleasing some people 😀

 

[Hungarian21]

Hmm....did you by any chance do something...evil? 😛

Like, oh, I dunno....beat up innocent TT members, or....steal candy from a kid? XD

Anyway, dunno much about it. Its hard when you dont know if ur alive or dead, though the dead part usually happens in school somewhere about halfway through the day. XD

 

[TKLVR181]

Hmm....did you by any chance do something...evil? 😛

Like, oh, I dunno....beat up innocent TT members, or....steal candy from a kid? XD

Anyway, dunno much about it. Its hard when you dont know if ur alive or dead, though the dead part usually happens in school somewhere about halfway through the day. XD

LOL Hung, you constantly make me laugh. Me? Evil? Pick on innocent TT members?........


...........


........only the lees that were in the tf thread anyway 😉😀

Yes, that's exactly when I start feeling dead :dead:

 

[Hungarian21]

*bows in turd* Always a pleasure m'lady. 😉

 

[TKLVR181]

*bows in turd* Always a pleasure m'lady. 😉

LMAO!!!😀

 

[Hungarian21]

*opens eyes, still bowing* OMG!!!! ARRRGHGY, IT BUUUUURNS!!!!....and tastes like chicken...hmm...😛

So how's life? Sadly I've been away for a while again; I just cant seem to find the free time I need to come on anymore. At least my grades are ok, and my car just came back from the service. (needed a clutch change...$640!!! XO) Oh, and of course, lets not forget the weekly projects I've been getting....*mumbles* and then the teachers wonder why we put nails in their chairs...ha! XD

 

[ard261]

Hi TKLVR18, I also suffered from depression and the doctor also treated me for aniexty and once that was under control the depression stop. Something else that help was a program from Lucinda Bassett "Attacking Aniety and Depression." The program you can find on e-bay. It saved my life. I also was take Zoloft. I am now off all medicine and lead a wonderful life. I have made a complete recovery. I use to obsese about everything and was depressed about the past and the future. It teach you to think in a positve manner. If you have any questions please e-mail me at [email protected]. I would be more than happy to help you.

Tony