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Gay children thrown out by parents find life tough

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I wonder why, highly, or not so highly religious, faithful, compassionate parents, who raised their children from babies, would brutally throw them out on the streets to die when they find out their are simply gay. It makes you wonder if religion isn't really evil:

For Young Gays on the Streets, Survival Comes Before Pride

By ANDREW JACOBS

Published: June 27, 2004

David Antoine's coming out last year did not exactly fill his family with pride. A few months shy of his high school graduation, Mr. Antoine said, his mother told him to pack his bags, and he was suddenly out on the icy streets of Brooklyn, his life stuffed into a trash bag, his bed the hard back of a subway car rumbling from one end of the city to the other.

Brian Murray is still trying to find his place in what is known as the gay community. A good night is the soft bed of a stranger and $100 in the morning. A bad night is an empty stomach, a park bench and the rousing jolt of a nightstick on his bare feet as he is ordered to move on.

Like Mr. Antoine and Mr. Murray, his friends, Michael Leatherbury, 25, would consider cheering his gay brothers and sisters marching down Fifth Avenue this afternoon if he had a few coins in his pocket and a place to call his own. No sense flirting with strangers, he says, when home is a lumpy cot in a city shelter. "Being homeless is not exactly conducive to dating," he says with a shrug. "These days, I'm not feeling very prideful."

As hundreds of thousands of people flock to New York today for the annual celebration of the 1969 Stonewall uprising and the birth of the modern gay rights movement, few are likely to give a moment's thought to their homeless brethren, a growing legion of the disowned and the dispossessed, most of them black and Latino, an increasing number of them H.I.V. positive and still in the throes of adolescence.

With just two dozen beds available for gay, lesbian and transgender youth, they endure violence in the city's shelters, camp out in doorways in Harlem or pass the night at a 24-hour Internet cafe next to Disney's New Amsterdam Theater on 42nd Street. There, many of them trawl the Web for paying "dates" or try their luck on Christopher Street in the far West Village, where some quick work in a passing car might yield $30. "You've got to do what you've got to do to survive," says Mr. Murray, who is 22 and has been turning tricks in the Village since he was 15.

There is no official count of those who are homeless and gay in New York, but Carl Siciliano, who runs the city's largest shelter for gay young adults, puts their numbers in the thousands. Most national studies estimate that as many as half of all homeless youth are lesbian or gay, many of them tossed out by parents who scorn homosexuality for a variety of reasons.

As director of the Ali Fourney Center in Manhattan, Mr. Siciliano can shelter only 12 people at a time and wring his hands as the waiting list grows beyond 100. He seethes with indignation when talking about the teenagers who are forced onto the streets, where they quickly become acquainted with drugs, hustling, violence and the virus that causes AIDS. For many, he says, suicide becomes the only way out.

The number of homeless teenagers is growing, Mr. Siciliano says, inadvertently fueled by the identity-affirming pitch of gay rights advocates and the feel-good wit of television shows like "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" and "Will and Grace," which encourage adolescents to declare their sexuality to parents on the opposite side of a yawning generation gap.

"I think it's shameful that these kids are out there alone and in danger, in a city where gay men have so much money," he says.

Young black men like Mr. Antoine and Mr. Murray spend most of their time in Harlem, where they can melt into the bustle of 125th Street. Down in Greenwich Village or in Chelsea, Mr. Leatherbury says, "You feel like a foreigner, someone who doesn't belong."

When they are not looking for legitimate work, filling out applications in stores and restaurants, they cruise Marcus Garvey and Morningside Parks, or shop their wares along a gritty stretch of Third Avenue near the Willis Avenue Bridge. It is a perilous circuit, and in recent years, three gay homeless teenagers have been killed in Harlem, their deaths still unsolved.

During the day, as many as two dozen of them gather in the offices of Gay Men of African Descent in Harlem, commonly known as GMAD, where they play video games, grab cheese sandwiches and stuff condoms into AIDS-prevention handouts. Omar-Xavior Ford, the organization's overworked youth coordinator, serves as their surrogate father, offering job advice, wrangling beds in the better shelters and trying, with mixed success, to help them steer clear of the city's perils "The streets of New York will eventually consume them," he says. "If it doesn't kill them, there's no way to reverse the damage it's caused."

At night, when the office closes, the young men are on their own. It is the night before Gay Pride weekend, and Christopher Street is already thick with out-of-town revelers. Brian Murray rarely comes downtown anymore. He prefers to make his money on Jerome Avenue in the Bronx or at a pornographic video store near Madison Square Garden, where he can earn money satisfying customers in private video booths. "I've already come through and conquered this place," he says, voguing exuberantly as if the pavement were a fashion show runway.

With their colorful do-rags, baseball caps and barbed banter, the homeless youths easily blend in with the boisterous crowd. Most carry cellphones, but without money to buy minutes, the phones serve simply as fashion props.

Mr. Murray's friends, more recent arrivals on the scene, are not yet as jaded. This is only Robert Marable's second visit to the Village, the epicenter of gay America, and the hurly-burly is overwhelming. Mr. Marable, 19, from Brooklyn, who lived in shelters for the last three years and only recently came out of the closet, wonders why everyone is looking at him. "I'm still not used to this," he says, putting on a tough-guy grimace and shielding his eyes with a pair of blue-tinted sunglasses.

As they gather on the Christopher Street pier, the sound of traffic muffled by the water, they grow quiet and tell their stories, which vary in detail but invariably have the same ending.

Like the others, Michael Leatherbury lives in a city shelter, but he has a high school diploma, a solid résumé and a part-time job as a customer service representative for a local newspaper. Shy and introspective, he moved to New York from Philadelphia last winter with his partner, invited by a friend who offered a bed in her Bronx apartment. The woman turned out to be a mentally unstable cocaine addict, and one morning last January, she told the two of them to leave. They checked themselves into a shelter on Wards Island, and their relationship quickly folded. "We ended up taking our stress out on one another instead of comforting one another," he says.

Mr. Leatherbury's family, deeply religious and offended by his sexuality, have spurned his requests for help, and his $250 weekly paycheck covers little more than food and subway fare. Afternoons are spent looking for more work; at night, he watches his back as he walks the dodgy streets near the shelter in East Williamsburg, Brooklyn.

"Right now I'm in a depressed state," he says, staring into the blackness of the Hudson. "I feel myself slipping away more and more every day."

If Mr. Leatherbury wears his despondency on his sleeve, Mr. Murray has learned to bury his beneath a brassy, finger-snapping veneer, although rage is never far from the surface. His childhood, as he tells it, was a horrifying time of sexual abuse by an aunt, and then for a brief period, physical abuse at the hands of his alcoholic mother. "If she couldn't find the television remote because it was under a pile of clothing, she'd beat me," he says.

As a teenager, he used to escape from his group home in Westchester County and follow the Metro-North train tracks to Manhattan, a walk that could take five hours. When he was 17, social workers found him an apartment and paid his rent. He painted the walls peach and indigo, and adopted a black kitten he named Godiva.

But last year, on his 21st birthday, he "aged out" out of the foster care system. He says he thought his caseworker would find him another place to live, but instead he was driven to a Wards Island shelter, handed his bags and wished the best of luck. Since then, a string of sugar daddies have briefly taken him in, but his wild ways invariably land him back on the street. The high point in his adult life, he says, was a two-month gig working at Starbucks. The low point came a few months ago when he tested positive for H.I.V.

Last Wednesday, after tussling with shelter employees one too many times, Mr. Murray was thrown out with the T-shirt on his back, a pair of flip-flops and a photo album that holds the proof of his two joyous years of independent living. In a rare stroke of luck, Mr. Ford of GMAD found him a temporary bed at a church near the mouth of the Lincoln Tunnel. His dream is to get a job in "the entertainment business," but his realistic side tells him to look for work as a security guard.

"I'm just stuck in a rut, but as soon as I get situated, I'm going to turn my life around," he says, before heading back to the shelter.

Things have been looking up for Mr. Antoine, who turned 18 last week. For the first time in his life he has found love, another homeless fellow he met at GMAD's drop-in center. He and his boyfriend, Cedric Dunham, 22, have started sharing a tiny windowless room in a rundown hotel on East 116th Street that Mr. Antoine's mother agreed to pay for, although she refuses to let him come back home. Now that he is not on the street, he said, he is ready to finish high school. As he and Mr. Dunham walk arm and arm down Christopher Street, they grab the fliers being handed out by someone pushing the cause of gay marriage. Mr. Antoine pauses to explain how the two of them will marry, as soon as they land on their feet.

"We're going to have our wedding in Paris, next to a waterfall, with a violin playing," he says. "It's going to be a fairy tale wedding, and we're going to pay for everything ourselves."
 
You know, this really doesn't suprise me one bit. Not one bit. It's amazing that america is still around, really...it really is. At times like these, I like to think of a quote that is in Moses's sig... "Destructive people will eventually take themselves out"


thats the perfect way to sum up the "good ol US of A" in it's current form.

We are our own worst enemy....the things we have allowed ourselves to turn into....and so many americans wonder why we are looked upon as the most idiotic people on earth. I don't doubt that sometimes.
 
mabus said:
"We're going to have our wedding in Paris, next to a waterfall, with a violin playing," he says. "It's going to be a fairy tale wedding, and we're going to pay for everything ourselves."
Well, now we know why they call it "Gay Paris"! :blaugh:
 
I wonder why, highly, or not so highly religious, faithful, compassionate parents, who raised their children from babies, would brutally throw them out on the streets to die when they find out their are simply gay. It makes you wonder if religion isn't really evil:
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now how do we know they were brutally thrown out? perhaps they were gently placed on the sidewalk.
 
Krokus said:
You know, this really doesn't suprise me one bit. Not one bit. It's amazing that america is still around, really...it really is. At times like these, I like to think of a quote that is in Moses's sig... "Destructive people will eventually take themselves out"


thats the perfect way to sum up the "good ol US of A" in it's current form.

We are our own worst enemy....the things we have allowed ourselves to turn into....and so many americans wonder why we are looked upon as the most idiotic people on earth. I don't doubt that sometimes.

I'm going to have to break with my unpatriotic tendencies for just a moment. Yeah, America has a ton of problems (especially in tolerating gay people), but we aren't "the most idiotic people on earth." We're close, but I'd say that countries like Japan and most of the Third World have it far worse.
 
My first thought on reading the title of this thread was that obviously they do; children thrown out on the street by their parents for any reason at all will find life tough.

That being said, I do find a parent throwing a child out because of the child's sexual preference to be odious.

There are also other odious reasons which I have witnessed among people known to me (relatives, friends and their families, colleagues at work and their families):

The child has converted to a different religion than the parents.

The child is dating a person of a different religion than the parents, and refuses to stop seeing her/him.

The child is dating a person of a different race than the parents, and refuses to stop seeing her/him.

The child refuses to work for the company owned by her/his parents.

The child becomes politically active in a cause for which her/his parents are on the opposite side.

There are a lot of rotten parents out there. 🙁
 
MrMacphisto said:
I'm going to have to break with my unpatriotic tendencies for just a moment. Yeah, America has a ton of problems (especially in tolerating gay people), but we aren't "the most idiotic people on earth." We're close, but I'd say that countries like Japan and most of the Third World have it far worse.

I never said we were the most idiotic people on earth; i said that is what most people around the world see us as. Make no mistake, I love this country and the freedom I have....I just can't stand the whole warped mindframe that the majority in this country have, or better yet, lack of tolerance. I've never seen a people more afraid of change. Actually, I've never seen a people more afraid of anything like americans are. Our society is one of fear and consumption, nothing more.
 
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i know how he feels... i'm bi and wasnt exactly treated good by my family cuz of it...
 
milagros317 said:
My first thought on reading the title of this thread was that obviously they do; children thrown out on the street by their parents for any reason at all will find life tough. ...

... There are a lot of rotten parents out there. 🙁
My thought entirely. IMO, parents who throw out their young children for whatever reason are breaking "the contract of generations".

The same applies to parents who force their kids into a marriage not of their own choice, or to parents who sell their kids into prostitution. But those are mostly Third World problems. What makes the "gay children" issue so appalling is the fact that it happens in the so-called "advanced civilizations". Not America alone, mind you.

Some people would deserve to get sterilized, just to prevent them from becoming parents... :sowrong:
 
I have a few problems with this topic that I would like to express. First of all I personaly think that homosexual relationships are wrong, but that because of my up-bringing and religion, but I'm not going to start a "anit-gay-parade" or anything. I believe that God put me on this earth for a reason and judging people wasn't one of those reasons. I don't belive that throwing a child on the street for being gay is right, I belive that it is wrong. So with that out of the way I would like to say that becuause a parent does something like that doesn't mean that a religion or a country is bad. Just because a guy goes out and kills someone and says God told him too, doesn't mean God told him to kill someone and people of the same faith belive that its right.

I'm getting mixed up here. Secondly America is not afraid of change. Firsty we take all religious icons off government facilities, We give women the right to vote, Freeing african americans, giving african americans the right to vote.

Thats all for now...
 
mabus said:
I wonder why, highly, or not so highly religious, faithful, compassionate parents, who raised their children from babies, would brutally throw them out on the streets to die when they find out their are simply gay. It makes you wonder if religion isn't really evil:

Please don't blame religion....those parents are just cold hearted jerks.

Like many southerners, I'm both very conservative and a christian, and my faith in God is extremely important to me....but nothing a child of mine could ever do would make me abandon or disown them. I haven't been blessed to become a father yet, but my sister has four beautiful children...and I love those kids as my own. I would never turn my back on them....I love them far too much. I honesty can't fathom anyone tossing their own child into a cold, hostile world...my mom couldn't have done it to my sister or I, and I could never do it to a child....no way!
 
I can't forget a young man who was on my ship, in my own division. Nineteen year old kid from Michigan. Turned out he was gay, but he only told one guy about it in the division, his best friend there. When he was going through a really bad time with it, he found that he simply couldn't tell his parents about it, fearing the consequences. He hated himself for being what he was, and he finally couldn't deal with it anymore. One day, in October '81, he drove north from Norfolk, drinking, drugging, and driving, and made it as far as the Delaware Memorial. He parked his car, got out, and jumped.
His body finally washed up on Christmas Eve.
To this day, I can't get over what a waste of a human life this was, a waste of potential, a waste of the love that all of his friends and family had for him...

Enough to make one a misanthrope.
 
the_Baron said:
what the heck is wrong with japan?


tell me, dozo.

I was referring mostly to Japan's extremely conformist culture. It's a common problem with Eastern culture. Much of the West is too focused on selfish independence and much of the East is too focused on conformism. To be more specific, we don't think enough like a community, and they don't think enough like individuals. Moderation is key, and that's why the East and West can learn a lot from each other. Still, I prefer to live in a society that is more individualistic than conformist (at least by comparison to the East).
 
I've found that religion can have a very positive effect on some people's spirituality, but for the most part it seems that the more religion is concreted into a culture, the more anally retentive and emotionally underdeveloped it is. Without worrying that God will damn them to hell for fostering gay spawn, a lot more parents find it easier to come to terms with. (There are of course atheist or agnostic parents who just as big a bunch of dickheads as the religious fanatics.)

That's the sort of person who does a decent religious person no favours, because they all end up getting tarred with the same self-righteous, swivel-eyed brush.

Does anyone else think that religion and spirituality is better left off to individuals instead of organisations and cultures?
 
BigJim said:
Does anyone else think that religion and spirituality is better left off to individuals instead of organisations and cultures?

Yep... you've definitely got my support on that one....
 
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