Good site but...

[Zero0195]

I feel that this site (mostly the forums) Are a bit unorganized. The only thing I have a problem with is that there are too many threads per page in the topics. 15 is a decently good number I have found. That's basicly it. I hope you consider this if you already have before and decided not to then please lock this topic.

 

[Journia]

Lock the topic? So I don't have a response? (even if you don't require one?) Ha!!!

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

I feel that this site (mostly the forums) Are a bit unorganized. The only thing I have a problem with is that there are too many threads per page in the topics. 15 is a decently good number I have found. That's basicly it. I hope you consider this if you already have before and decided not to then please lock this topic.

It has been my opinion, for quite some time, that the non-tickling forums specifically could be more organized. As it is, people have got to do alot of wadding through it to find that specific type of non-tickling material they're looking for.

I've analyzed and determined that content that goes into that forum contains, primarily, the three following types of non-tickling material:

Foot fetish/nylon, stocking, fishnet, etc.

Random non-fetish material (stuff like joke pictures, 4chan material, etc.)

Non-tickling (sometimes fetish, sometimes not) artwork.

I would eventually like to see that forum organized specifically into at least two sectons where foot fetishists (a majority of the content) can have a forum just for that.

While a piece of artwork may seem to fall into that category, I think it would be organized if non-tickling artwork (fetish or not) was seperated from the sea of purely foot fetish photography. Random stuff wouldn't necessarily need a forum of it's own, but for the sake of the artwork not being cluttered and being unique, having a non-fetish section would allow our regulars to focus their attention better, rather than having to move through a single forum were the topics are massed together and too often blend together.

 

[footkl]

I just search every promising thread

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

I just search every promising thread

The problem with that, often times, is that thread titles can either be vague or exagerated (sometimes even deceptive), and people end up spending more time searching than finding.

You'd spend less time searching and more looking if your promising threads were neatly organized into specifics of the three I've mentioned above. In the case of the tickling material, people just need to be more accurate with the thread titles.

 

[taragohn]

Good point Vlad. I think it is not just organizing the forums. People should be clear with their titles. Do not know if there are rules for that but putting up some might help as well. As for me I sometimes do find it bothersome to search the treads but for me personally it is part of the fun.

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

I don't imagine it would be fun if you're on a tight schedule. Its for these people, primarily the ones with slow internet connections, that we should be considerate of also.

 

[taragohn]

Another good point. I am spoiled with a fairly fast connection so for me it is not a big problem. But I agree that more organisation would be a plus for this site. Specially the non-tickling is a bit broad I think

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

Yeah, I have the luxury of DSL, but not everyone has DSL or Cable, or whatever, and we need to consider them before us, since either way it doesn't effect us at all.

 

[nessonite1]

hmmm...Maybe a front page poll about connection speeds is in order....

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

hmmm...Maybe a front page poll about connection speeds is in order....

I'd recommend that. It will gauge how much of an issue it is for how many people, even if they have basic dial-up. Since connections speeds vary, its well worth finding out what speeds make optimum use of the site, and for those that don't, suggestions or proposals for what can be done to help lighten the load.

Since people with slow connections have to pick and choose what they look at and how much time they can invest because of slow speeds, I imagine the greatest concern is possibly how the site is organized by threads and by attachements. Cutting down the quantity doesn't really do anything, but making it easier to find what you're looking for by having areas dedicated specifically to it, does.

Browsing with confidence should be something we try and offer all our members, even perhaps at the cost of over-specializing the forums. Sub-forums may be an eyesore, but they're practical enough for this purpose. If you don't want the material that is in these forums, you can simply avoid them. At least it would make it easier to know where you're going and what your chances of finding what you want are.

 

[Excess]

I would like seeing a more organized-by-content site myself. Like has been stated, it would make everything easier to find, and maybe especially for those with slower connections. I can sympathize since, while I have DSL now, I've been on Dial-up for a majority of my net life, and it would've helped alot to have been able to quickly look at certain content without searching through everything else that just happens to be posted there as well.

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

I would like seeing a more organized-by-content site myself. Like has been stated, it would make everything easier to find, and maybe especially for those with slower connections. I can sympathize since, while I have DSL now, I've been on Dial-up for a majority of my net life, and it would've helped alot to have been able to quickly look at certain content without searching through everything else that just happens to be posted there as well.

I too had dial-up for years (although this was before DSL became widely available), so I too know what it is like to have to pick and choose how you spend your time with any particular online activity.

If someone wants to see foot fetish pictures, they should be able to go into the non-tickling forum and find a forum for it in the list. Bingo. We have a winner.

If someone wants to see non-tickling artwork (fetish or not, without having to wade through tons of photographs to find it, they should be able to go to the non-tickling forum and find a forum for it in the list. Bingo. We have a winner.

So on and so forth...

The main tickling and tickling art forums don't really need to be tinkered with unless each individual fetish or interest is popular enough to break down into a forum of it's own (which a poll finding this out would be good). It would be easier in this case, though, to just make proper and accurate thread title labeling more of a priority.

The focus naturally revolves around non-tickling since it covers a wealth of individual subjects, some of which have nothing to do with the fetish.

 

[Excess]

The main tickling and tickling art forums don't really need to be tinkered with unless each individual fetish or interest is popular enough to break down into a forum of it's own (which a poll finding this out would be good). It would be easier in this case, though, to just make proper and accurate thread title labeling more of a priority.

The focus naturally revolves around non-tickling since it covers a wealth of individual subjects, some of which have nothing to do with the fetish.

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. As far as what sections there should be, well, like you said, some polls would be helpful. I'm personally thinking that a non-tickling foot fetish section would be at the top of what could be, since I believe it certainly has enough content to justify it's own section, and polls have already determined that the large majority here has a foot fetish.

 

[nessonite1]

pretty soon, after the other staff and I get together and have a bit of a meeting, we'll create a thread where ya'll can post up ideas you have. I hope ya'll take some time to come up with some really killer ideas for us. =3

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. As far as what sections there should be, well, like you said, some polls would be helpful. I'm personally thinking that a non-tickling foot fetish section would be at the top of what could be, since I believe it certainly has enough content to justify it's own section, and polls have already determined that the large majority here has a foot fetish.

Yeah. A foot fetish forum is pretty much a given. Personally, I'm more concerned with artwork (whether fetish or not) being seperated from photographs, since real photos and even fakes tend to bump down art prematurely, as there is a considerably larger ammount of photography than there is art.

Its no surprize that more and more people are looking for artwork over photos given that we have more and more talented artists coming in and the current ones are continuing to improve and are making names for themselves.

 

[nessonite1]

I'd have to check it out but I think the non-tk art posted is a pretty small amount. not sure if it's anough to warrent it;s own forum. We'll have to research that a bit.

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

Not to argue or anything, but I don't know why theres no willingness to take risks on these types of things. Everything has to be "warranted" before its even actually tried out. If non-tickling art having its own forum is simply not successful, then its not successful and it can be deleted at any time and prior functions can be resumed.

Its almost as if theres an embarassement to make a mistake attached to actually doing this sort of thing. I think its more open-minded and hopeful to try it before its concluded as not worthy simply by statistics alone.

I can't take all of the credit, but I was instrumental in getting some of the artists to post their regular work as well, and several are doing this, have been doing this, and others are picking up on it. Its a slow process, but it is happening. I think its a very healthy thing, emotionally speaking, to want to see all the artist's work, and not just the fetish and the tickling. Encouraging them to share all their other artistic interests is ideal as it lets them know they are fully appricated and they may be more inclined to share (both tickling and regular). To suggest that we're only concerned with only one thing here when we obviously are not, doesn't fully appriciate them wholly, and I think we need to be doing that, even if some people (perhaps many) would not appriciate that.

I see no reason why we can't make this an art site as well. It takes no emphasis, whatsoever, off of tickling or the main theme or attraction. It is a side dish that many post to all the time, just not in record ammounts (which is fine, as it is a side dish and not the main course).

 

[nessonite1]

I have no problems at all with trying something that may or may not work. But the staff would have to all get togetehr first and decide, if it were to succeed, if it's something that would really benefit the site. how many people even post non-tk art? I dont think there is anyone who actually comes here LOOKING specifically for it in any case.
We ciould give it a shot, of course. If we're gonna start changing forums around though we'll probably only want to do that after some pretty careful consideration. We don't want to always be in a state of moving things around. that'd get kind of chaotic.

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

I have no problems at all with trying something that may or may not work. But the staff would have to all get togetehr first and decide, if it were to succeed, if it's something that would really benefit the site. how many people even post non-tk art? I dont think there is anyone who actually comes here LOOKING specifically for it in any case.
We ciould give it a shot, of course. If we're gonna start changing forums around though we'll probably only want to do that after some pretty careful consideration. We don't want to always be in a state of moving things around. that'd get kind of chaotic.

Naturally the staff have to agree on it, thats not the point, but the rest you get.

You make a good point for me. You say, or ask rather, how many people actually come here for that. Well, they don't come for it, but they certainly stay, in part, because of it. This is evident in our regulars. They appriciate, or at least seem to appriciate, all facets of the imaginations of our artists and their interests. People like my portraits and fanart, people like 316's manga, people like the growing popularity and requestability of SnailShell, the old-fashioned comic feel of LBH, and the randomness of Senshi and others (sorry that I left others out, you're important too). This list of people just grows and grows, and its a perfect platform for aspiring artist and beginners to get feedback, help, critiques, and to get noticed.

The point is, the forum doesn't exist for the people that just waltz in looking for tickling material. The forum is there for art enthusiasts and as a platform for such an environment of fine tastes to be created. People, believe it or not, want a break from the usual tickling stuff. So even non-commited reviewers and fans may want to come in and see what we have to offer. We know this is viable because its already happening and people appriciate the efforts of the artists no matter what it is they draw. People that like it avoid it, and thats fine. Thats why its a side dish and not a main course, as I said in using that analogy.

As for things being chaotic by moving things around constantly, that would only ever happen if you're being reckless with opportunities in the first place or you are tackling too many subjects at once. That simply will not happen as theres only two other major forums aside and you'd only ever have to create or delete them once.

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

To be blunt about it, our artwork shouldn't have to be mixed in with "my wife's feet" or "look at those sexy feet". Even if you could argue that it doesn't warrant a forum of its own, its obvious that naturally it doesn't belong in this type of forum anyway. While some people then use that fact as a means to argue no non-tickling or fetish work should be allowed, its the very same token that argues for it. The conclusion that I've made wins out over people who simply do not want it, because theres more upsides than downsides to it and that elitist, snobbish attitude that some fetishists take is not what TT is known for, anyway.

If there were more downsides and they were to win out, it would have to imply theres either:

A.) An imbalance of the material, where non-tickling has taken over (something we know will never happen here on a FETISH website).

B.) The forum for this material was more of an eyesore than any other forum (a matter of opinion, not fact)

C.) The non-tickling artwork creates a division in our members (something that is not true, as its laughable to suggest that having an interest in anything other than tickling and displaying that personal, real life, offline diversity here is wrong or counter to the purpose. It is not. Side dish people, side dish. Also, we are a COMMUNITY, not a mere web board.)

or

D.) The forum is in the way and disrupts their browsing. (Something cannot distrupt you if its not in your area and is seperated from what you want. Those thread titles you don't want to have to read because they annoy you aren't a concern as you're not in a place you'd be reading them. If you are, it means either someone uploaded something in the wrong forum by accident and it will be moved, its a troll, or you are in a forum you chose to click on so why are you complaining? XD)

 

[MistressValerie1]

I am leaning towards advocating a subforum for foot-related pics, which deserve their own section, and a subforum for "social" or banter threads to reduce clutter in the General Discussions forum, where serious topics quickly get buried. Any changes, however, would be gradual and incremental.

BTW, I'm on a horribly slow dial-up connection myself, usually around 48 kbps.

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

I am leaning towards advocating a subforum for foot-related pics, which deserve their own section, and a subforum for "social" or banter threads to reduce clutter in the General Discussions forum, where serious topics quickly get buried. Any changes, however, would be gradual and incremental.

BTW, I'm on a horribly slow dial-up connection myself, usually around 48 kbps.

Thats a good idea. Serious discussions are prized too and are just as important as any other conversation...sometimes even more so.