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Got a breathing problem

kopfhorer1

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Most of the time my asthma is merely majorly annoying rather than life-threatening. I don't wheeze or cough, but I've felt bad enough to land in the ER several times over the last several months. It fucks with me most nastily at night when I'd rather be sleeping. The weather around here (45 degrees today, 10 degrees tomorrow) is probably not helping matters. 😛issed

Has anyone else here had that problem? If so, how've you dealt with it?
 
Heavy breathing man. Heavy breathing.
All I know is I take my puffer twice a day - morning and night - and I just try to stand all the 'oh so joyful' :dead: coughs that sound like I'm hacking up a lung, or a chain-smoker, and slight choking feelings I get throughout the day. 🙁
 
Heavy breathing man. Heavy breathing.
All I know is I take my puffer twice a day - morning and night - and I just try to stand all the 'oh so joyful' :dead: coughs that sound like I'm hacking up a lung, or a chain-smoker, and slight choking feelings I get throughout the day. 🙁

Thank you for replying.

Heavy breathing is probably good advice. I've been advised that meditation might be a good way to mitigate attacks. I do the puffer thing several times a day. Sometimes I hafta bring out the big gun, i.e. a nebulizer. That's loads of fun (not)!

And I definitely hear you about those choking feelings. It's tough not to freak out when they happen, especially since I'm still not quite used to them. 🙁 I used to have mild asthma, but now it's gotten to be a major pain.
 
I'm asthmatic too, kopfhorer...

...have been all my life, WILL be all my life. It nearly killed me during my toddlerhood more times than I'd care to count if I COULD remember all the way back that far, and I'm lucky I can't, truth to tell. Little is more frustrating than when you can't draw enough breath to feel more than helplessly kitten weak and dehabilitatingly ill. However, I've lived long enough with it (and through it) to learn some valuable tips:

1) Adrenaline injections (of which I was given many during my prepubescence, and they DID help a great deal at the time) are a HUGE no-no now for asthma relief, according to doctors. Avoid at all costs, even if no other better option for immediate relief is available. I'd suspect hospitals don't even administer them for asthma any longer.
2) Allergies and asthma, studies have shown for years now, go hand-in-hand, which only stands to reason: asthma occurs due to airway constriction in the lungs, often caused by inflammation of the wall lining, the latter very commonly triggered by allergens, particularly outdoor ones. Pet danders and plant/tree-related causes (pollen, ragweed, mold spores, etc.) are main culprits, but you'll want to avoid heavily-dusty areas as well, and freshly-cut grass can play Hell with asthma too, I've noticed. Also, you'll want to avoid dairy products, milk particularly, when asthma-related symptoms flare up, because the thickness of the dairy further restricts the breathing process and therefore becomes almost undigestible and, ultimately, counterproductive.
3) Humidity is important to avoid and, of course, that DOESN'T just happen in the summertime, though that's often the worst time for asthmatics, what with the "dog days" bringing on haze and thick, scarcely-breathable air. Of course, air that's TOO dry isn't good, either. I believe it's said that roughly 40-50% humidity is most ideal, though I may not be entirely right about that exact range.
4) Hot liquids can work wonders for temporary asthma relief. The steamy vapors are said to open up bronchial passages sufficiently to allow greater ease of inhaling. For me, coffee and hot cocoa are the yummiest cures, but hot tea and virtually any high-temperature beverage would do the trick when sipped slowly and savored over a fairly length period.
5) Primatene Mist, the top brand-name over-the-counter asthma inhaler, is generally widely poo-pooed by most physicians I've talked to and/or read reports from. I couldn't scientifically tell you why, but clearly the medically-prescribed varieties (which may contain a greater steroid base though, again, my knowledge of the medical particulars isn't as clear as I'd like it to be) are far more beneficial. I recall names like Beclovent and Vanceril from my youth, and I believe at least one of those is still on the market. I also hear that Flovent is a commonly-used one these days.

Bottom line, I'd say, is that in order to best cope with asthma, you do the obvious (avoid smoking, don't excessively or too strenuously physically exert yourself, limit yourself physically in less than ideal weather, don't get too heavy), but yet you can still maintain a relatively "normal" existence if you approach things with moderation. I'll pray for your health and for you to avoid any more emergency room visits, of which I haven't had one due to asthma-related concerns since I was perhaps twelve years old, but still recall all too well how horrifying they can be. I'm sure you were likely aware of any and all of the points I detailed above, but I've been there, always will be, and hope I somehow helped. Take care of you.
 
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Lot a good info there TIE.

I don't have asthma so I can't speak from experience. All I can say is try to keep warm if the cold temp is bothering you.
 
I have asthma and I can say, I would love to have a nebulizer in my home. I don't have insurance so I can't afford it, but my little sisters have one and it helps a lot. If you go to the ER and can't breathe, they pretty much just give you the same treatment anyway. It gives me some weird jittery side effects like I just did a line of coke, but at least I can breathe.
 
I may have asthma,they aren't sure.I've also had Bronchitis,it was not fun at all and I couldn't sleep,it was horrible.I am sorry you have to deal with such a terrible problem
 
I may have asthma,they aren't sure.I've also had Bronchitis,it was not fun at all and I couldn't sleep,it was horrible.I am sorry you have to deal with such a terrible problem

Thank you. I hope you don't have asthma, at least not a severe case of it. I had to experiment (along with my doctor) with several meds until I found ones whose side-effects didn't nullify any benefits.

Thanks also to everyone else who's responded.

I've been up for all but 2 or 3 of the last 36 hours because of an asthma attack which even my nebulizer could not touch. I think however that I might have Sherlock Holmes'd at least one major aggravator of my asthma problem. My apartment is heated by a Japanese-style wall-furnace. Methinks there's some exhaust leakage happening which my apartment's carbon monoxide alarm isn't picking up on. I'll probably hafta drop 30 dollars or so and score a more sophisticated CO meter in order to prove my theory, but simply turning the heater off and airing the place out today (as in fans in opened windows) seems to have mitigated my symptoms to a considerable degree. Stankin' wall furnace...😛issed


I have asthma and I can say, I would love to have a nebulizer in my home. I don't have insurance so I can't afford it, but my little sisters have one and it helps a lot. If you go to the ER and can't breathe, they pretty much just give you the same treatment anyway. It gives me some weird jittery side effects like I just did a line of coke, but at least I can breathe.

Emergency rooms SUCK for anything other than heart attacks and car crashes. None of the overworked, underqualified doctors there thought to ask about my heating system or do anything else other than make me wait hours just to tell me my tests were normal, and have me huffing on a nebulizer. 😛issed 😛issed

As for your insurance situation, I wish I knew what to do about it, apart from keeping pressure on Mr. Obama to institute single-payer health care, like the civilized world has.
 
Aaargh. That sounds terrible, kopfhorer(and others afflicted). I hope you can find some relief from the attacks. I don't have asthma, but it sounds terribly debilitating. :no:
 
If you start having pain in your spinal area that happens every time you breath, GO SEE AN INTERNALIST AND GET YOUR CHEST LOOKED AT! A relative of mine almost died because she ignored the pain till it go so bad she couldn't take it anymore. They found out her lung had puffed up and was secreting (or oozing I should say) this baby orange colored gooish slime that was chock FULL of bacteria. After getting all that gunk out of her lung cavity and bathing her lung in antibacterial fluid, they told her if she had waited another two weeks she would be in the morg and if she had waited one week before coming to them the gunk would have hardened and they would have had to crack her rip cage and take a bloody drill to it (not good).

They got a whole 2 liter soda bottle's worth of that shit out of her system and the tube they put in her lung cavity to get the rest out was still sucking the shit out by day 7 of her hospital stay. So don't take ANY CHANCES if you've got serious pain near the spine when you breath okay?
 
I don't seem to have that kind of pain, thankfully, and medical tests have apparently ruled out lung-rot of any kind.

I'm glad your relative got looked at when she did. I hope she's doing OK now.
 
Having lived with asthma for over a decade and finally having gotten some control over it, I thought I'd share a few things that have worked for me (and give a little medical spiel along with it).

I take several medications just to be able to breathe on a regular basis. I've had allergies since childhood, so an antihistamine has been imperative. As I've gotten older, my allergies and sensitivities to certain seasonal outdoor and indoor allergens have both worsened and lessened.

Some people believe in getting allergy injections - since my allergies included animal dander (which I'm surrounded by both at home and at work), I never chose to be tested or go this route. But if you have worse seasonal problems, this might be something to consider.

Regarding cold weather - cold air causes bronchospasms. I recommend using a scarf or muffler to cover your mouth when you go outside - do anything you can to warm the air before you breathe it in. Avoid prolonged exposure to bitterly cold temperatures.

When I was first diagnosed, I relied solely on Proventil (albuterol) - a bronchodilator. This is your first round rescue remedy, to be carried with you at all times. It makes some people jittery because it's a beta2 agonist - as a smooth muscle relaxer, it also works on cardiac muscle and can trigger tachycardia (increased heart rate). To combat this, you might ask your doctor whether a beta blocker would be an option. I take atenolol to keep my heart rate under 100 beats per minute. It won't counteract the action of the bronchodilator (way more pharmacology than I want to cover). And I also take hydrochlorothiazide - a mild diuretic to help prevent pulmonary hypertension (there's not a great way to measure pulmonary blood pressure unless you have extensive cardiac work ups/echocardiograms, etc.) - I was never diagnosed with hypertension, but my diastolic number (the bottom number) was consistently higher than normal. With the diuretic, this helped tremendously and I'm usually 120/60.

Other commonly used inhalers use steroids of varying strengths and durations of action. I was never very compliant about using these and they never seemed to do much, but when I had a crisis way back in 2001 or such (and I haven't had one since I was put on my new regimen - see below), this at least got some of the tightness out of my chest and the wheezing went away. During my crisis, I had to take prednisone for several weeks. I do not want to have to relive that experience...ever. But steroids can help bring some severe cases of asthma under control. I'm talking oral/pills in this case. Some people try a Medrol pack. Ask your physician if this is an option.

Along the way, I happened to be diagnosed with acid reflux/GERD. After having a reflux attack, I invariably had to use my rescue inhaler to be able to breathe. Reflux can trigger bronchospasms making breathing even trickier. If you have frequent indigestion or bouts of heartburn (and I use that term loosely - not the kind of heartburn you get after you've had bad Mexican, but the pain of having someone sitting on your chest, difficulty swallowing, brings tears to your eyes kind of heartburn), you might ask your physician to help rule out this condition as another underlying cause.

My current regimen: antihistamines, atenolol, diuretic, Singular (best medicine EVER), and aciphex (for acid reflux). I use Advair once daily (this is a pulverized, powderlike steroid that works well for me - it's actually a combination of two of the former inhaled steroids that I rarely used) - it works wonders and I remember to take it because... I no longer use my Proventil/albuterol inhaler on a regular basis! I use it maybe once or twice a month. I also use Astelin - a nasal spray that helps me with my allergies, too. I think Singular and Advair are two of the best medications that help me get away from using my Proventil like a crutch. For some background information, Singular is a leukotriene inhibitor. Leukotrienes are part of the inflammation cascade that causes asthma - they cause swelling that puts pressure around the bronchi and tightens down airways. It's not a cheap medication - nor is the Advair. Even with insurance, I pay $40 a piece. The Singular pills last one month, the Advair inhaler lasts two (60 doses). You may see if your physician has samples of either medicine - this can definitely help you at least see if they might improve your symptoms.

I hope this helps and that is hasn't been too didactic. Good luck!
 
Lots of information's better than not enough...

Thank you for relating your experiences. Feeling like you're the only one suffering from this shit (which I know I'm not) is the worst thing about having a chronic condition.

Singulair caused weird side-effects for me. 🙁 I too have been on prednisone. I'm still paying for the damage to the peaceful village I went on a rampage through! I do use a steroid powder inhaler. My chiropractor/homeopath recommended L-Cystein to mitigate allergies.
 
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If you start having pain in your spinal area that happens every time you breath, GO SEE AN INTERNALIST AND GET YOUR CHEST LOOKED AT! A relative of mine almost died because she ignored the pain till it go so bad she couldn't take it anymore. They found out her lung had puffed up and was secreting (or oozing I should say) this baby orange colored gooish slime that was chock FULL of bacteria. After getting all that gunk out of her lung cavity and bathing her lung in antibacterial fluid, they told her if she had waited another two weeks she would be in the morg and if she had waited one week before coming to them the gunk would have hardened and they would have had to crack her rip cage and take a bloody drill to it (not good).

They got a whole 2 liter soda bottle's worth of that shit out of her system and the tube they put in her lung cavity to get the rest out was still sucking the shit out by day 7 of her hospital stay. So don't take ANY CHANCES if you've got serious pain near the spine when you breath okay?

I am so sorry,that is terrible,I hope all is well now.
 
5) Primatene Mist, the top brand-name over-the-counter asthma inhaler, is generally widely poo-pooed by most physicians I've talked to and/or read reports from. I couldn't scientifically tell you why, but clearly the medically-prescribed varieties (which may contain a greater steroid base though, again, my knowledge of the medical particulars isn't as clear as I'd like it to be) are far more beneficial. I recall names like Beclovent and Vanceril from my youth, and I believe at least one of those is still on the market. I also hear that Flovent is a commonly-used one these days.

Time for my to put on my white pharmacist jacket.

(1) Primatene Mist contains epinephrine, or adrenaline. I don't recommend it because it's over-the-counter (OTC) and have seen many overuse them to the point that they either get dependent on it or resistant to it.

(2) The Beclovent/Vanceril/Flovent inhalers all contain corticosteroids (think hydrocortisone and prednisone). Asthma is thought to have an inflammatory reaction component and they work real well to prevent attacks.

(3) Annie, the albuterol in the nebulizer is a stimulate, like epinephrine/adrenaline. It is more specific to receptors in the lungs, but can cause some to get overstimulated and jittery. When we lived in Bowling Green, KY we had to little girls across the street from us that both had Cystic Fibrosis, and their Mom gave them home nebulizer treatments often.
 
Those poor girls must have been bouncing off the walls. Their parents must have had their hands full.
 
She was (sadly) your standard welfare 'stay-at-home' mom. We helped with the girls as best we could. Then she was in an auto accident and the insurance settlement was enough to get them out of debt and off the welfare track. Many days we wonder how they were doing, since they had seizure problems and other health issues besides "Sixty-Five Roses"...
 
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