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greatest pop music artist (group or singer)

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I was wondering what you all think whom the greatest popular music artist of all time is? Now im not sure if this was posted before chances are it may have been but I wanted to have fun with this.
Now some of us may name favorites who may not have reached superstar status but thats ok too. But I am really curious as to what TMF members think who the greatest are and feel free to name more than one if you would like.
 
Greatest pop music artist? Hmmmmmm, well I won't even bother with the worlds of hard rock, blues, or jazz here.
To sum up "the greatest pop music artist", it would have to be Elvis or The Beatles on just what they accomplished in their career and how they still continue to influence.


Drew
 
I am a classic rock and roller. some of the best artists are the ones that pioneered. the sound. With that thought, Chuck Berry comes to mind
 
I would ask what we mean by "popular music". If you mean popular by Industry terms ("Pop Music") then I would say The Beatles. If we mean popular by terms of most popular artist, then I would say Elvis Presley. Elvis is difficult to call a "pop" artist because a majority of his work was influenced by genres other than pop. Pop music did not really exist in it's true form prior to the mid-60s, And Elvis had been singing for years before that. Elvis' biggest influence was Gospel music. He was, and still is, among the most gifted gospel singers in history. This genre he altered in Churches around Mississippi until he began fusing it with what is now called Country music (then called anything from Bluegrass to Jug Band music, depending on where you were from). The fusion of Gospel and Country gave Elvis a sound all his own, which he later fused even deeper with the Rock and Roll sound of Fats Domino, Chuck Berry, and Big Mama Thornton. Some gents from England had a hit in America later on in the sixties, which ushered in a new age of music. They were called The Tornadoes. (Fooled you, didn't I?) Their instrumental hit Telstar (If you haven't yet heard it, I recommend it) debuted on the charts circa 1962, and told the until then music experts the Americans that the English had a few chords to play as well.
Following the Tornadoes' slight success, other bands from England began crossing the pond, as it were, to find American audiences much more inclined to accept their musical expression than was previously believed. They will almost all tell you that their major influences were Fats Domino, Chuck Berry, and of course, Elvis.
The Beatles were among the first to leave the Cast-Iron shore of the Mersey River in Liverpool to test the Atlantic waters. This led to countless Liverpool acts: Gerry and the Pacemakers, Rory Storm and the Hurricanes, Billy J. Kramer with the Dakotas, to come to popularity in the World. This massive outflux of talent from Liverpool gave rise to the term "The Merseybeat Sound", since some found that Liverpool acts sounded similar.
Later, Berry Gordy of Detroit Michigan created his own record label, Motown (after his hometown of Detroit, the Motor City) and gave birth to countless acts such as The Temptations, The 4 Tops, and the Jackson 5.
Now, here I must digress slightly. I like Michael Jackson's early solo music. The album "Thriller" is, in my opinion, the best album ever put together. Of the 12 songs on that album, 7 made the top ten. Just about every song on that album is solid. "Wanna be Startin' Somethin'", "Beat It", and "Billy Jean", arguably the best pop song in history (possibly for another thread) Puts Thriller on the radar as the best Pop ALBUM of all time, but his other musical endeavors prohibit me from naming Jackson the best Pop Artist of all time. When the REmake of "Smooth Criminal" by Alien Ant Farm is far betteer than Jackson's original, there is a problem.
Best Pop producer of all time? No question, Phil Specter. Hands down, Specter's "wall of sound" defines Pop music for me. "A Christmas Gift to You" is a great example, an album of his artists (The Crystals, The Ronettes, Darlene Love, Bob B. Soxx and the Blue Jeans) singing Holiday staples. "He's A Rebel" By the Crystals also comes to mind.
But this still raises the question of best Pop artist of all time. I go back to the Beatles again, however their range transcended genres as well, to a point that they are almost impossible to classify. Starting out in unquestionable Rock and Roll mode, the five boys from Liverpool (John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison, Stuart Sutcliffe, and Pete Best) journeyed to Hamburg, Germany in search of fame and fortune, finding there neither. Their Rock and Roll attitudes were perfect, though. With their leather jackets and sneers, they might as well have been Billy Idol's Uncles. Brian Epstein, their late manager, knew that these boys would one day be stars, and forced them to, against their wishes, clean up their acts. They fired their awful drummer, obtaining Ringo Starr as a backup until they could find a good drummer, and Stuart Sutcliffe left to pursue an art career, something which he and Lennon had planned since childhood. Their Rock roots were still there, but they began to make music for the people, and not so much for the money. Thusly, they too generated a new sound, Kind of a Pop-Rock.
Here we reach again, the question of Best Pop Artist of all time. My answer may shock you. The artists I've mentioned above have had one thing in common. They played music for us, we loved it, and they didn't stop until we were nearly sick of it. The Beatles almost left us wanting more, but not completely. Elvis' legacy lives on, but the testimony to his unfortunate musical longevity was evident when the USPS made us vote whether young Elvis should be on a stamp, or old, fat Elvis. Did they really need to ask us?
Along the same lines, we have Michael Jackson. Guilty of molestation charges or not, his image will forever be tainted, and as a result, recent album sales have been lackluster.
By this rule of "Leave 'em laughing when you go", I must give my hand to the late Buddy Holly. Charles Holley from Lubbock Texas was a natural guitar player, a pleasant person, and made some of the best music ever recorded. With the Crickets, he made such hits as "That'll Be the Day", "True Love Ways" (among the more beautiful songs in history), "Not Fade Away", and "Everyday". His death in a plane crash was immortalized with Ritchie Valens and J.P. "The Big Bopper" Richardson. Valens and Richardson would probably have amounted to little more than trivia questions, but had that plane not crashed, Buddy Holly and the Crickets would have been as big as the Beatles, if not bigger.
My answer: Buddy Holly and the Crickets
 
pop music

Ok fantastic so far and Phatteus you were quite articulate in your pop and roots music tour de force, however i did say "pop music artist" and not just "pop music" but your points are very well taken thanks lets hear some more people.
 
Sarah McLachlin. Her voice is haunting and her lyrics cut you to the core.

2nd place would be Jewel. Same reasons only add a little innocence to the mix. As far as the sound of her voice goes.
 
My vote goes to The Beatles! From the time of their landing in America in 1964 until their break-up in 1970, they never failed to break new ground with their music. Just look at the difference between 1964's "She Loves You" and 1970's "Let It Be", both from the same group! That's six years separating those two songs! They sound like two different groups. Play Mariah Carey's first album and her most recent release back to back and I'm sure her style hasn't evolved much, even though there's thirteen or so years separating the two. The Beatles will be to our grandchildren's grandchildren what Beethoven and Mozart are to us. Immortal geniuses.
 
Darren Hayes. But I'm biased. 🙂


Mimi
 
This honey here....


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...is Darren Hayes. He's only known in the U.S. as the former lead singer of Savage Garden. They split up years ago, though, and since that time Darren has become one of the hottest solo artists in the UK, Europe, and Australia (his home country). His new stuff is nothing like that sappy love pop stuff he did with SG, though. He's new album (which was just released last week over seas) is very dark, moody, alternative, and sexy, with a combo of electronic and industrial instrumentals. Very fricken cool, IMO, but not a sound that would be popular in the U.S.

There are two reasons as to why I am biased. One is because I feel he has quite simply the most gorgeous male falsetto singing voice I have ever heard. I studied singing myself for 8 years (with 10 medals to show for it), and I feel his talent is seriously underrated and ignored. The second reason is because I do a lot of promotion work for him, both artistically through designing promotional graphics and ads, and also through leading one of the U.S. street teams. In return, I get invites to private listening parties, backstage passes, and for my birthday 2 years ago he sent me a personalized autographed CD (even though the poor goof mangled the spelling of my name - 'Quinie' - but I can't blame him for that. 😀 ) So it's all good.

Probably a lot more info than you were looking for...lol 😉

Mimi
 
Okay, I've heard of Savage Garden... always struck me funny how a group named "Savage Garden" could sound so mellow. (Based on their hit). Thanks for the info, Mimi. BTW, speaking of voices, when I used to go to Karaoke clubs I'd notice how great singers with so-so looks wouldn't get much applause, but if the person is drop dead gorgeous yet sucks as a singer, the crowd will go wild. Maybe that's not always true, but I saw it happen.
 
In the past, I would've said Sarah McLachlan, but lately, I've become a bigger fan of U2.
 
Ahhh...I always make these things more difficult than I think they should be! LOL

I define pop really as having the most middle of the road popularity. If anything gets enough attention, and in particular sells enough, it's pop, or becomes pop.

On that note, greatest pop portion... it's Elvis, cuz nobody doesn't know Elvis and I don't think anyone had more hits. In terms of music, I say James Brown. I don't think Elvis or the Beatles had as much long-term social or musical influence. The most popular artists today basically bump and grind to a musical template that was laid down by James, plus I think James is second to Elvis in # of hits. As an artist I want to say Madonna, because she didn't open a door, she blasted it open, then built her own damn door to open!
 
As I personal choice, I would go with Ray Charles because he crossed over into so many musical directions without changing his style.
I would still list Elvis or The Beatles though......and I'm the furthest thing from a Beatles fan Wouldn't even own one of their records, yet they really changed the face of pop music.


Drew
 
Michael Jackson!!
The guy is still a houshold name from beverly Hills to the most remote villages in Zaire. True I wouldn't let him crach at my place after a night of partying...but still..this guy is the "King of Pop".
Watching that guy do the moonwalk across the stage for MoTown's anniversery bash in 83(i was born in 82..but still remember it😛 ) bring chills down my spine.
GQguy
p.s. Billy jean is still not my lover....
 
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