Half Time Show

[Limeoutsider]

Well, from watching the internet and the news the past couple of days, Ive learned that its OK to blanantly (sp) sample others music (Diddy) and that its also ok to wear your flag as its a shirt/smock (Rock). Why isnt anyone in an uproar over these?

 

[Knox The Hatter]

Well, in our American society, there's nothing more dangerous and subversive than an exposed tit. It, more than anything else, has caused the moral decay in our country to rise to epidemic proportions, and by God, it has to be stamped out 😛

 

[The Sean Man]

Stange how in this country one thing can drive people nuts, and other stuff blows through. To quote Mr. Heston in Planet of the Apes....

"IT'S A MADHOUSE....A MAAAAAAAAAAADHOUSE!"

The Sean Man

 

[TKpervert]

Oh no, Knox wants to stamp out tits. boo hisss

It did not strike me as an attractive boobie. The bitch is buff, but that was not a buff boobie.

Please tolerate my use of the word 'bitch', it just fit so well with the rest of the sentence.

I like Janet, a powerhouse entertainer.

So what if she has a weird brother...

Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

 

[primetime]

personally, as a Janet Jackson fan, i didnt mind seeing her boob. it is what us male fans have been wanting to see forever! i can understand why some people would be shocked, but i dont think they should be offended. even though Janet admitted it was staged for her top to be ripped off, what IF IT WAS AN ACCIDENT? would people be offended still? the flash was so fast, my friends and i had to look at each other and say "did i just see what i thought i saw?"

people should lighten up and if Janet did plan it, then she is getting what she planned. something for people to talk about. now, her name is everywhere. pretty good plan i think.

 

[ceaser]

I loved it would have loved to see both of them. Maybe next time he could pull off her pants or maybe her shoes!😉

 

[natural tickler]

You guys keep forgetting that it was a wardrobe malfunction😀

 

[kis123]

While we're on the subject of guys...

I noticed that almost everyone that has posted in this thread is male. If this were my daughter prostituting herself in front of the world, it would make me sick!! Janet Jackson had always carried herself like a professional until this point. Is her career sagging so badly that she has to resort to the same behavior as her young counterparts (li'l kim, brittany, beyonce,etc..)? We're talking about a woman in her mid thirties, not some teenager or twentysomething that are know to do stupid things for attention, self-promotion, and money.

If you're truly a talented performer, why not allow your talent to sell the records and create the talk? Why is it that women always have to take their clothes off in order to get attention? Simply put, what both of them did was tasteless, classless and disgusting.

As far as sampling music is concerned, the musicians who created it are responsible for the legalities surrounding it. Rappers have been doing this for about twenty years.

Using the flag as a poncho for a redneck like Kid Rock wasn't too appealing for me to hear about either. but neither one of them took their clothes off in front of the Superbowl stage. That's not an apples-to-apples comparison by any measure.

If Janet Jackson wants to expose herself and get paid for it, let her make a video and sell it on the Internet like everyone else!

 

[MrPartickler]

playing the boobies' advocate...

While we're on the subject of guys...

I noticed that almost everyone that has posted in this thread is male. If this were my daughter prostituting herself in front of the world, it would make me sick!! Janet Jackson had always carried herself like a professional until this point. Is her career sagging so badly that she has to resort to the same behavior as her young counterparts (li'l kim, brittany, beyonce,etc..)? We're talking about a woman in her mid thirties, not some teenager or twentysomething that are know to do stupid things for attention, self-promotion, and money.

If you're truly a talented performer, why not allow your talent to sell the records and create the talk? Why is it that women always have to take their clothes off in order to get attention? Simply put, what both of them did was tasteless, classless and disgusting.

...

If Janet Jackson wants to expose herself and get paid for it, let her make a video and sell it on the Internet like everyone else!

So, if it were your daughter, would you be disgusted enough <i>not</i> to accept the house, luxury cars, clothes, and trips around the world her actions bought for you?

Talent is one thing, but the bottom line is what sells. Sex sells and will always continue to do so. Brittney, Janet, Lil' kim, These aren't the greatest singers, dancers, rappers, etc. However, to their respective target audiences, they're all great <i>entertainers.</i> (Although, I have to say that Beyonce can sing well IMHO! <whew> but I digress. 😀 ) They look good and their producers know it. Hell, that's often why they rise as high as they do. This ain't radio, either. So they provide a good show, an experience. They HAVE to surprise and astonish their audiences to keep folks entertained. There's fierce competition all around and peoples' attention spans are short. If these folks leave "the show" behind, so goes their audiences.

 

[the_Baron]

hey sean -

"take you paws off me you damned dirty ape!"

(i love that movie)

 

[kis123]

Dear Mr. Partickler;

Just for the record, I would not accept any money gained through filth of ANY kind. If it were my daugher acting like a **********, she can keep her money!!! I don't need to pimp my kid when the entertainment industry (once again, for lack of a better term) or anyone else is doing a great job of it.

"Sex sells" is a cheap cop-out of requiring talent. Beyonce was doing fine before she took the rest of her clothes off. But her parents don't mind pimping their daughter, in fact, her mother makes a lot of her so called clothes.

You don't know me very well at all. I believe in morals and spiritual principles. I don't raise my children to drown in the typical cesspool that society says "If it feels good, do it". There are consequences to pay for ALL decision making, right or wrong. If my daugther completely lost her mind and decided to sell herself out, I still can make a good living without her help. I go to work, pay my bills (on time) and make a decent living without having to bump-and-on the floor 3/4 naked. It isn't necessary regardless what you and anyone else thinks.

Does that answer your question?!

 

[natural tickler]

ummm kis, there is something you have completely forgotten:

that the music business is more edgy today than 20 years ago. You have to understand that sex sells. Period. End of sentence. Besides, nobody would be saying anything if that was Britney Spears or Christina Aguilera doing that😀

 

[MrPartickler]

kis, I don't pretend to know you at all. I wasn't trying to pick a fight. It was a hypothetical question that was more rhetorical in nature than anything. It's unanswerable anyway (IMHO) without a lot more information since there's a often a HUGE difference between what people say they would do when confronted with real world situations and what they actually do.

Nevertheless, since we're already going down the route of presumption....

Most everyone here is an active member of the TMF--a public, online tickling <i>fetish</i> community. That makes us all marginalized already as far as any "standard" morals and spiritual principals go. I know, I know, we all consider ourselves exceptions to that one. 🙄 Well, if you wanna be judged as immoral and devoid of spiritual principals, just email the following link to your pastor and/or priest and/or local church website: http://www.ticklingforum.com.

Also, I can only presume that modeling for or producing tickling videos must be at least as offensive to you if not more. After all, it's public, for sale, directly marketed, and, let's face it, almost purely "masturbatory material" as a TMF friend once (cheerfully) remarked. So many of us here buy or sell or produce or condone or participate (or, as you have implied "sold themselves out") in such, that, well....who here would you not consider amoral?

I think there's a rationalization for everything people do (or don't do). For example, if you go 5 miles per hour over the speed limit just because you're late and don't slow down. That's ok right? Sure it's illegal, but not too bad. How about 10? or 20? even when there's no one around, on deserted highway? There are so few absolutes that in the end everyone just says this "feels right," and makes their decisions accordingly. After all, that does sound so much nicer than to say we do it because "feels good" doesn't it? But in the end, the result is the same.

These same entertainers you compare to "**********s" for the way they behave in public might call us all pervs, freaks, etc. for what we do in private. And if the only difference is audience size and perhaps compensation, I say there's not much difference at all.

 

[Knox The Hatter]

Of course, my comment was purely facetious...
It's a sad day when I have to explain that.

 

[sushi854]

hey, shock tactics sell... 😀

 

[kis123]

I try to go away for a couple of hours to run errands, and what do I find when I get back on this thread? A whole lot of assumptions, and misunderstandings.

NT, I don't care what has gone on in the last twenty years. Should we throw out the baby with the bathwater because society deems it acceptable? Certainly not. Just because the standard for class (we won't even discuss morals here) has dropped, doesn't mean I should wallow with the pigs in the so-called entertainment industry.

As far as the TMF and other fetish sites are concerned, this is another non-comparison. We choose in private our fetishes. Many of us (myself included) have lived our fetishes in secret hoping that our families never find out. We purchase our vids, and if some of us get sexually exited over what we see, we release our frustration in private. Not in public where the world can see! Not where young children only innocently watching a halftime superbowl show could see! This shouldn't be shoved down the kid's throats. It is NOT acceptable behavior from a thirty-something woman. Hasn't she realized that there is enough negative publicity in her family with her brother? She doesn't need to draw any other negative attention to herself or her family!

Would someone please tell me where the bottom is? Once I think societal norms can stoop no lower, the media and entertainment industry shows me I'm not remotely close to bottom at all. It's sick and disgusting, whether no one agrees with me or not. I lived in a time where there was a line that simply wasn't crossed in public. What people want in their bedrooms is their own business. I don't want to see it on tv all the time!!!!!!!!

Oh, and to answer your last post, I wouldn't care if it was Janet, Christina, or Brittaney, or whoever. Wrong is wrong!!!!!