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High School Sports..

Neutron

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Ya know, last night I went down to watch my alma mater play in the Ohio High School Football Playoffs. I'm not all that in love with my old school, but it's rarity to get to host a game so I figured what the hell, I'll drive a couple hours to attend the game.
Every year, I usually catch at least one game at my old school and usually on Friday nights I'll go watch a local school play.
In my mind, high school sports, especially at playoff time, are sports at their best. Just a bunch of kids, many playing above their real capabilities, giving their heart just so they can play one more week. Damn I love it.

Tron
 
One of my fondest memories is when I played high school football. My senior year we won the State Championship game. There is not a high you can describe to match that. It doesn't get much better than that. I remember coming off that bus returning from the game and we felt like we just conqured the world.

Let me tell you, it was a great game. Hard hitting, crisp, almost no penalties. We ended up by winning that game on a controversial two point conversion in our favor, which ended up by putting us up by one point in the waning seconds of the game.

In high school, you are not playing for a big contract or marketing yourself for a high draft pick. you are playing because you want to represent your school and mostly for the love of the game.
 
God, I miss high school.

Some of the best memories i have of high school are the football games. No one cared if it was cold cause everyone was cheering. It was the thing to do in this here farmtown, and you knew all your friends were going to be there. My (technically) ex-bf played for the team, so i was always at almost every game (I even went after he quit playing :sadcry: ), but thats ok. It was one of the things that made me laugh and cry and cheer and all those things, and i really miss it. (We miss you Andy :sniff: ). But we didnt just go to see the team, i knew a lot of the cheerleaders too, so we went to talk to them after the game too. And then there were the parties. Athletes and crazy people throw the best parties. Lots of memories, good and bad.
Stacy
 
high school sports are always the purest form of the sport there is. most kids are playing for the love of the game, not some million dollar paycheck. i work with my high school's football team and believe me when i say these kids do work hard and love the game. my high school's football team will always be my favorite sports team. so, if you ever have a chance, go to a high school game.
 
Giantfan, I couldn't agree with you more. I played WR/PK for my alma mater, the Sussex SwampDragons (named after our beloved field, affectionatly known as "The Swamp", and it truly was...)

Winning a State Championship is one of those things that sticks with you for the rest of your life. Like Tron said, there's something about high school sports at playoff time that's really special.

I don't live anywhere near my alma mater now, but I've been getting into follwing the Peru team up here (I live closer to Plattsburgh, but they haven't fielded a good team in years.)

I think those of you who know about high school sports can agree that the coaches and staff are even more important than in the pros in a way. You don't have the same players year after year, so the system itself has to work. The Peru team I mentioned has been succesful year in and year out even with the graduating players.

I loved my coach and the staff, as they implemeted a very pass-oriented game-plan that took a season or two to click, but really befuddled a lot of the standard run-run-pass high school teams.
 
I'll Post My Thoughts Later..

They're rather long and involved.

Tron
 
Ok...

I certainly don't live in High School. Many here have seen my disparaging comments about guys who played in High School. I was always hoping it was implied my hard spot wasn't with HIgh School football, or guys whose career stopped at the HS Level. My problem is with guys who believe their experience at the HS Level somehow gives them insight as to how the game is played on the field at the pro level. The games are night and day, and I tend to get annoyed at those who can't see it that way.
I honestly don't like my home town. It's small, and the people there always seem to "know" what everyone else is doing. Also, it tends to have a lot of people who seem to think life ended at high school. It bugs me when I see someone from there and their first words are Remember when?? In fact it sickens me. What is worse is when I attend a game, and have to hear from some fucking inbred slob about he "knocked the big pro" on his ass when I was (put in a grade, I started on my varsity in 8th grade, made all conference 4 years, all state 2, all american twice, and my 8th grade year was 2nd team all conference, I also own 17 Varsity records that have stood since 1978). Ok i don't mind that I got knocked on my ass. It happens, and truthfully if it floats someones boat then so be it. What I HATE is having these fuckrod Ohiobillies somehow implying that because they knocked me down in practice that they were ripped off of a pro career. Usually they're trying to impress their trailor trash wife or girlfriend. My usual reply is, Yeah it's sad I had to settle for the pros when you got a reserved seat at (name a local watering hole).
Saying that, I love High School Sports. It has it's troubles at times but it's so pure. And Ohio plays the best HS Football in the country. I particularly love the smaller schools. And my school is small. One of the things I like is when there's a "big' game in my hometown. I'll usually attend with a few relatives (I was fortunate enough to start on defense with one brother and 4 cousins). One of my favorite things is to see my old coaches. My guess is any guy who had a good HS Coach never forgot the man, or men. I certainly didn't. I've given my coaches and many of my HS teachers credit for every positive thing I've ever done. I like shooting the shit with my ex coaches, and just talking football with them. I also like to see their faces when I call them coach, a habit I've never been able to break, also a habit I'm not sure I want to break. This past FRiday I ended up walking the "fence" with 4 of my ex coaches. I've never been able to sit at a game, and much prefer following the ball. I get a better feel for the game that way. One thing I was sort of surprised about, All the coaches present had a different moment where they "knew" I'd be a pro. I found that strange.
Anyways, between me, my brother and the coaches we pretty much agreed my HS was gonna have a world of trouble with the team they were playing. In fact we figured if we scored a couple touchdowns and only lost by 21 or so, that we'd be fortunate. The other team was very fast, very quick, and had only lost by 1 point to the #1 ranked team in the state. They also run a No back shotgun spread offense, something not seen at the HS level. My HS was slower, played in a much weaker conference and had lost twice (but to teams that made the playoffs). So we figured a blowout.

Try telling kids that.

I've always been amazed by High School kids. Tell them something is impossible and they'll prove you wrong, then act like they could have pulled it off all along. HS Athletes are playing because they love the game. Kids love the spotlight, and a good playoff game is a great place to shine. I've always been amazed at how kids just seem to handle the glare of the spotlight. Many people fade from the lights, some are bothered by it, some live for it, but kids just never seem to notice it's there. They're playing for the love of the game. Competing for the sake of competing, and if any showboating is done it's rarely out of malice or to rub it in, it's mostly done to show Mom, Dad or a girlfriend a little bit of Lookie What I Just Did...

The game started much as we expected. The visiting team was a lot faster, and any athlete can tell you speed and quickness are things you just can't train for. No matter how prepared you think you are, until you see true speed you can't adjust. That happened here, the visitors scored twice real quickly. I'd just turned to tell my former HS Coach that we should all go watch another local schools game provided the visitors scored again. Then out of the blue, one of the local boys decides it's time to give MOm, Dad, or that girlfriend a Lookie At What I Just Did moment. The visitors had the ball, driving for that third score, when a defensive end from my HS ended up right in the middle of a screen pass. Obviously no one told him that there were at least 5 guys on the visitors that were faster than him, because he happily scampered 83 yards for a touchdown. A very quiet crowd was all of a sudden ecstatic. The local kids were jumping, yelling, pumping fists. The young lad simply walked over to the bench and sat, then drank some water. Just as if he outran faster kids everyday of the week and it'd take something really out of the ordinary for him to get his gander up.

At half time it was 14-7.

Second half, the visitors score quickly. Then get the ball back and start another long drive. Guess what? Out of the blue a hand pokes a ball out. The local kids have the ball. And drive for a long score. The kid who scores the touchdown is the same boy who scored the long interception return. He scored this time on a 38 yard pass. Outrunning and outfighting the defensive back for the ball. This boy rarely plays offense, and was only in to give the normal end a breather. Just prior to the play , during a timeout, he told the coach, Ya know I outran em once coach....
Unbelievable.

Three plays later, more action. Yet another fumble. We have the ball, and only need 13 yards for a score. We make it to the 8 yard line, On 4 th down one of their lads makes a leaping dive, barely gets a finger on the ball and saves a TD. He gets up, just walks to the huddle, at this level of HS Ball players go both ways. He doesn't have time to celebrate, after all there's a game to win.
The visitors go 92 Yards and score. A beautiful drive showcasing their athletic talent. The key play is a 3rd and 12 where their quarterback runs a bootleg, gets outside of containment and makes 13 yards, just prior to getting absolutely crushed on the sidelines. There's blood coming out of his nose, he gets up limping. Then on the next play throws a 33 yard pass. Kids.

WE get the ball. And in a great display of football drive it almost 70 yards. Scoring a touchdown about one minute into the 4th Quarter. We're down 28 to 21. The visitors look a tad bit slower than when they first showed up, and they;ve found out something, When you come to Northern Ohio to play football you best be ready to get your dick knocked off. Northern Ohio teams tend to be VERY physical, mostly due to uncertain weather conditions. There aren't a lot of frills in Northern Ohio Ball. When it's raining in October, or the temp is 8 below one can't get fancy with the ball so the teams tend to be brutally physical. It showed in this Quarter.

The 4th Quarter went up and down the field. The visitors had a long TD called back due to a penalty. This would have made the score 35-21. Instead we tighten up, Our kids get the ball back with about 4 minutes to go. We start driving. WE have the ball, 4th and 5 on their 49 Yard line. There's about 2 1/2 minutes to go. They have 7 defensive backs in the game. Things didn't look good. Then what happens? Number 84 comes to the rescue again. In 3 years of HS Ball he'd never caught a pass, never had an interception, never really touched the ball outside of practice. He manages to find himself 30 yards downfield, again wide open. Catches a pass and slips. But there's plenty of time. We have the ball on the 19. We have three time outs. AND on the next play we gain 15 yards! Ball on the 4. The visitors are tired, and suddenly their better athletic ability makes no difference.
We've neutralized it with physical and opportunistic play.
Now we have the ball on THEIR 4 yard line. They're tired, we have the momentum, the kids are pumped. AND we have 4 shots to get the ball in and maybe force overtime. And now, FINALLY we can play our type of ball. Use our bigger kids to ram the ball in.

I guess no one ever told THEIR kids any of this stuff.
1st Down: They stop our tailback cold
2nd Down: Off Tackle, a play that worked well all night, gets met by a wall of Blue and orange kids. No gain.
3rd down : Dumbass Call by the way.. We run a bootleg. Our QB barely gets the ball off to save a 7 yard sack.
4th down: QB Runs a roll out. He looks like he's going to break containment, when a visitor player makes a hell of a play, splits the blockers and makes a great tackle.

Time runs out.. We lose. Great game. And the sad part is 47 kids think their losers. And one, is kicking himself because he slipped on what he might feel was the biggest play of his life, totally forgetting that he already made two bigger plays.

I love the High School game.

Tron
 
Dave2112

Gathering from your post it sounds like your from NJ. Is that the case? I grew up and played in Bergen county. I was a TE for four years, LB for three years and moved to DE my senior year. I remember our team had alot of awesome players and we would call alot of reverses, flea flickers, etc...

What was really cool was the core of offensive players including myself lived within walking diatance of each other and we used to play football everyday after school when we were out of diapers. I grew up two houses down from the QB (who made All State). We would look at each other and be on the same page. We knew each other like books. The thing I hated most about growing up was that I had to wait till HS to play football. I was too big to play Pop Warner. By 12, I was 5'9" 155 lbs.

I remember our coach was a no nonsense, tough, disipliarian. Nobody, and I mean nobody, would second guess the guy. Not everybody liked him, but we ALL respected him. I, for one, liked him ALOT. What he accomplished spoke for itself. When I played as a freshman, our varsity team was a fucking joke. When he took over my sophmore year, we had a winning record and only got better till we acheived the ultimate pinnacle.

Two years ago, I attended my 20 year HS reunion, and seeing those guys was a blast.
 
Is there anybody that played other sports than football? I played baseball also, and between the two was my best sport
 
Basketball..

Baseball, Track and Hockey. In college I played Lacrosse too.

Tron
 
hey Neutron, i like the way you described that game. great memory! however, there is one thing i will disagree with. Ohio DOES NOT have the best HS Football. California does......
 
High School Football

God I miss playing football in high school..........sniff.....sniff.......:sadcry:

My senior year was so full of memories when I played football. Just one big family. The guys looked out for eachother. And so did the coaches. The whole football team would get a big mob and go crash the parties. Pulling pranks on eachother. I remember one time I pretented to be drunk and I called up our D-line coach and told him I was too drunk to drive and see if he would pick me up. Just kidding around cause I thought he would have been able too tell. And he was like Ok....sure were are you at??? Man I freaked and hung up the phone real quick. Sure I called him back, he laughed. Then he laughed again at practice when he made me run. Another memory was when we played our rival Huntington Beach High School. Well a couples day before they toilet papered our school and worte shit on our lockers. Well the game was the day after holloween. So after the dinner all the senior and varsity players got together and we decided to go around to the pumpkin patches and steal all of the pumpkins. We had about 20 cars and over 200 pumpkins. We snuck on to the football and the campus and we huched 200 pumpkins alllllll over the place. (there school colors were ugly ass orange so It matched perfectlly) It was funny. And I know some of you probably think thats messed up. The year before Hungtinton High through oil on parts of our campus (they were the oilers) and threw dead fish into our pool and into our trees. So I think we got them back good the next year.
 
Nowhere Close..

primetime said:
hey Neutron, i like the way you described that game. great memory! however, there is one thing i will disagree with. Ohio DOES NOT have the best HS Football. California does......

Ohio, Texas, Florida, Western Pennsylvania, and Georgia all play better ball than California. I coached at Vallejo and was actually sort of surprised at the sub standard football played in California.

Tron
 
High School Football is probably bigger in those states but california has most of the high ranked teams. Del LaSalle High School in Northern California Has the #1 football team in the nation. There so good there not in a league. They play other topped ranked schools in the nation.
 
Neutron, that last response now leads me to believe that your knowledge of high school football is limited. California has THE best football in the country. you coached at Vallejo? tell me, what have they ever done? in California, you have De La Salle who has an astonishing 146 game winning streak. granted, about maybe 10 of them come against "quality" schools, but still, 146 games in a row? there is also Long Beach Poly, who has sent more players to the NFL than any other high school in the nation. you have Santa Ana Mater Dei, a Catholic School that has won 2 "mythical" national titles. Los Alamitos has also dominated national rankings, along with Loyola High School in Los Angeles. in Central California, you have Clovis West. in San Diego, you have El Camino and Lincoln High. there are so many high schools in California that are good.

i have a friend that moved to Ohio in 2001. he is an avid HS football fan and almost cried at what he saw. he saw Green High in Green, Ohio, but maybe they are not that great. so, he checked out Mckinley HS, and St. Ignatius. very disappointed. he says they dont have the same kind of speed that California has.

Texas and Florida have great HS programs, but California is still the best. even in the All-Star games, California has the edge. California defeated Texas on a routine basis. this year's Cali-Florida bowl should be a great one. amazing that Ohio or Georgia, or Western Pennsylvania is never invited to play these type of games against California.

so when it comes to HS football, i know quite a deal. this is what i follow the most. you can take the best school from any state, and they cant beat California's best, Concord De La Salle. ask St. Louis in Hawaii, or Evangel Christian in Louisiana. both schools who achieved national recognition, even said that De La Salle is by far the best program they have ever faced. De la Salle is ONE of the many great schools in California. you're wrong Neutron, California is THE hotbed for HS Football......
 
On My WORST Day..

My knowledge of any type of football surpasses yours. So kindly not make me laugh.
A California State champion has NEVER beat an Ohio State Champion. Ever.
Football in Ohio is far more physical and on a much higher level. No question about it. Ask any major college coach OR pro coach. A good measure is, when was the last time a California Team won a National College Football Championship? Fact is you can't. The reason being the High school teams can't supply the needed talent to do it.
Kindly don't question my knowledge about any kind of football again. I find it rather insulting...

If you need linemen or linebackers or quarterbacks you go to the Midwest
Defensive Backs and Wide outs you go to Florida
Backs you go to Texas or Georgia.

California football is decent at best. Maybe at times it's above average. But top to bottom their teams aren't that great and for the most part are quite laughable.

Tron
 
you really make me laugh sometimes. you have NO idea who i am, so for you to say you have more football knowledge is funny. i follow the High School game REAL closely, and i can assure you, i know what i am talking about.

your first sentence made me laugh the hardest. you wrote "A California Stae champion has NEVER beaten an Ohio State champion." well, football genius, when was the last time, the State Champions from California and Ohio have played each other? hmmm? tell me the year and the two teams. your statement is implying that the two champions have played each other before. details pal, details. rest assured, it hasnt happened in the last 15 years, if not MORE.

plus, NO TEAM from Ohio can beat the Nation's best HS team, De La Salle. they cant match up with the athletes and the discipline that this team has. they havent won 146 games in a row for nothing.

Long Beach Poly has sent MORE players to the NFL than ANY OTHER high school in the country. college coaches LOVE coming to California. the talent out here is real good. the reason why West Coast teams in college havent played for the National title is 2 reasons. 1) East Coast bias. if you deny this, then i am really doubting your football knowledge. 2) the Florida schools, and Nebraska recruits kids from California. the Cali schools dont keep their kids at home. they travel all over the country. but, it looks like the University of Southern California will be taking on Oklahoma for the National title. USC is loaded, and this time with a bunch of players from California. cant wait to see the National title game, assuming both schools win out.

i will agree that Texas and Florida provide great athletes as well, but if you had any REAL football knowledge, you would have known California has a tremendous amount of athletes the college recruiters crave.

when it comes to HS football, you are going to have to realize that you are dealing with someone who follows it closely. i LOVE the High school game, and pay very close attention to it. for you to make a silly comment like Ohio HS football is on a higher level than California Football, shows me you lost touch on the high school scene. stick with the pros, you cant touch high school.
 
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