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How long before your tickling interest fades?

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I have read through many of the threads posted here, but not all of them. So, if this has already been addressed, I apologize. The question I want to put to the overall “tickling community” is: How old will we be when our interest in tickling finally fades away? Yeah, I know. Some of you will say “When they pry my cold, dead fingers away from her soles” or “Just before I have breathed my last breath.” But let’s try being realistic about this.

I’m now 58 and still going strong...well, maybe semi-strong. If there are some TMF members out there who are older, perhaps you can shed some additional light on our ultimate limitations. I realize this thought may hold little interest to those of you in your 20’s and 30’s, so maybe I could ask you youngsters an alternate question: What would you most like to see happen within the tickling realm in the next 20 years? By that time, you will be in your 40’s or 50’s, so think in terms of what you’d like to see or do before you’re too old to enjoy it.

I’m not suggesting that you will one day wake up and no longer have any interest in tickling. It doesn’t seem to work that way, at least it hasn’t in my case. The thing I notice most is a gradual decline in the intensity factor. Twenty years ago, I would have sold my sister to the Gypsies for a copy of most any of today’s tickling
videos. Now, when I see a new video advertised, it’s like “OK, there’s another one I may want to see someday... ho-hum.” I guess there’s a saturation factor here also, which probably affects everyone at all ages. I mean, with so many videos coming out of the woodwork, it’s difficult to keep up, even for those who enjoy unlimited financial resources.

Back in the late 1950’s, when I read my first tickling story (a pulp fiction detective story, entitled “Tickled to Death”) the opportunities were so few and far between that any item, any scrap of material related to tickling was treasured beyond belief. By the late 60’s things got a little better, as public tolerance of sexual expression began to expand. There were occasional references to tickling, usually in a sexual context, in the pornographic novels of the day. (A prime example is chapter 7 of Peter Jensen’s classic, “The Blackmailed Wife”, published by Liverpool Library Press.) I realize this brings me into the question of whether tickling is a sexual experience (an issue which this Forum has already addressed), but I think sexual tickling is a major part of the heritage of the tickling movement. To me, there’s never been any doubt. If it gives me a woody, it’s sexual, and tickling has always given me a woody - at times when nothing else could. Thirty years ago, just seeing the word “tickle” in print could give me a woody. I became so adept at picking out the c-k-l pattern that I could literally flip through a porno novel and find passages that described tickling.

Then in the 70’s there were several “correspondence groups” which made some valiant but generally unsuccessful attempts to accomplish what this Forum actually does - bringing ticklers and those with interests in tickling together. I really can’t say enough in praise of you guys who keep this site going. Thanks to you and the vehicle of the Internet, we have what some of us old guys dreamed about 30 years ago - the ability to communicate quickly and completely.

I’m no prophet, so I’ll make no predictions. But I will mention one thing that would not surprise me: It won’t surprise me to see cyber-tickling carried to whatever extremes technology will allow. Instead of just playing verbal ping-pong, as some of you now do in the chat room, you may (in the future) be able to enclose yourself in some sort of interactive tickle pod, in which you might see (and actually feel) your favorite fantasy unfolding before your eyes, as you tickle or submit to being tickled electronically. By that time, I may be so old that someone will have to help me into the pod, but if I can still move one finger, I believe I will want to try it ... at
least once.

So, what say you, fellow members? I’d like to read your opinions.
 
To answer your question...... NEVER... And I am being realistic... I just hope this board is still up in say 10-20 years....
 
Odd indeed.....

Actually, I haven't seen a lessening of intensity over the last few decades, other than a slight overall general settling of emotions as I near 50. Hmmm....might be time for an impromptu poll here...c'mon old farts, weigh in. Q
 
At 45 I have more self control but also a keener interest in the participation and pleasure of my partner. in Harvey i find inspiration and also vindication. sexuality manifest not only by action but mutual respect. If there ain't no love in it then wat is the point?
 
Self Control...

I've heard of the concept of self control...lol. Good point...I guess that's as good a way to describe some of the difference as any. However the physical reactions and outward manifestations are as intense as ever, so it's only mentally that I have noticed any gain in "control". Which of course only makes us even more dangerous than our young impulsive brethren! 😉 Q
 
Heaven Forbid

I seem to be the baby in this thread so far, but at 36 and getting more ticklish every day, My biggest hope is that it will never get too unbearable. As for losing interest, as long as I can take it, I will.

Jen
 
Crowding 50 myself, and like Harvey and Q, I see a kind of settling. I still get a woody off it, though.

As regards videos, stories, toons, etc., yes there's a saturation factor involved. In times past I would have been ecstatic to find any kind of tickle media. Now I'm only interested in the GOOD stuff.

Strelnikov
 
Good question

I'm in my early 30's. I don't think the "interest" will ever dy out completely. The opportunity's would start to come fewer and farther between I would think. Its impossible to know for sure until I get there, but right now the thought of tickling a 50+ women does nothing for me.

So the question is will I still feel that way when I'm 55?
If so will any 20-30 year old women want a 55 year old man tickling them?

At this point in time I can tickle my wife, I can tickle her younger sister, sometimes I can tickle my friends wives or wifes friends...etc
At 50+ will I still want to tickle any of these people and will any opportunity's to tickle 50+ women that are not my wife ever arise? It doesn't seem likely, but only time will tell.
 
Yes....

Yes...you will want to, and you will find yourself refraining from tickling women that are too young. Tah dah! And without any Tarot cards I might add... BTW, 50+ year old women are still hot! And your circle of friends and acquaintances will age along with you, and it will all be very natural and correct! Next reading in half an hour! Q the Prognosticator!! (is that a word?)😉
 
Too young?

qjakal said:
Yes...you will want to, and you will find yourself refraining from tickling women that are too young.

>>What is too young in your book? Please don't say under 40. LOL

Jen
 
A really great and interesting thread!!!!

Great thread- here's my thoghts....

Age? I'm ageless. I guess in some ways I never age- at least in the tickling photos of me for 20 years I've looked the same I'm told. Laughter keeps you young, brought to full realism. So that's not it, chronologically speaking.

It's the way the mind and heart age.

Many dissappointments can lead you to ending your career in tickling. Many fears of being 'discovered'- having to constantly hide your passions from a spouse. The worst is "never growing"... I mention this a lot, but few get it. They never reach for more, and always want spagetti and meatballs at every single sitting- even though there's so much more they could expand upon the menu. After a while, they are so settled in their ways that when they finally DO get bored with their choice- they have nothing else to reach for.

Creativity is the key to longevity!

I started at this, in photos at least, when I was 11, made my first stocks... don't laugh, it's true, and there's those here who have seen the photos of me at age 11, 12, 13, 14, and 16 (when I went to work for HOM). So by the time I was 20, people who only knew my through photos I took or stuff I wrote about thought I was probably 40! In fact, many couples- and guys dating- into tickling contacted me for advice on how to get their relationship off the ground with tickling!

By 17/18 it wasn't enough- I was bored- so I started to do "public ticklings" at colonial villages where I worked and medieval fests.

By 21, decade after I started- I was burned out. I had to reach for more. I started doing more public tickling at faires and beaches. Then I needed more again- so I reached out and learned, and taught, other forms of s/m... and bondage... then started to create new devices in my mind and then build them: stocks, tickling machines, you name it. Then I needed more yet- so I started getting groups together and holding tickling parties in the early 80's.

When that got old, I reached out for other gruops and went mainly into the hard s/m world and hard bondage world- making a name to some degree and forgetting all about tickling- and of cousre they all laughed at "ticklers" anyway. I accomplished the one thing I'm really happy about as far as myself: I transgressed between all groups- gay, straight, in between... there was no fear in me... taught lesbian groups, male groups... and was accepted a every level. That really opened my eyes, and I learned a lot- especially about acceptance. If you're secure enough in yourself, can draw lines clearly, it's a path I really recommend.

You can see the pattern. Creativity kept me going. It allowed me to also be brave enough to reach out and go where many had not. Still though, I had run out of things to reach for. At that time I was living the dream many have: I lived with three girls, all into tickling and bondage... and we all played together. You name it- plaster body casts, mumification, group scenes, even the imfamous Flander's Bench was born out of a creative thought one boring night...

But all that excitement wore out, and I had simply had enough. I was tired, my health was not so hot, I was on tour all the time. So I left it all.

Then one day after a few years of totally abstaining from tickling, the Internet came along- people were plastering my photos all over it (w/o my permission)... but it rekindled the "cult" around me... and some of those members urged me to try this new thing. So I did, and it rekindled me as well... only this time my interest was in helping others to attain what I had already done. Sort of like taking your own kid to DisneyWorld I guess (I have no kids, so I assume that's what it feels like).

Now, afer a few years, the Internet has become such a dull, boring place to me- every site alike- I've heard the same lines over and over in chats (they think they're new of course!)- no one tries to grow much or expand- they're all in their own little cubicle worlds with blinders on... ay yi yi. Boooorr-RRRrrring.

So then the TMF came along- BOOM- rekindled again!... and I love it because I try to help others once again reach for what I have reached for. And at the same time I also reached out over the Yashebian Desert and the Tickle Palace and all it's inhabitants was discovered hiding somewhere in the back of my mind all these years- who knew??

Once I let the creativity flow, it was all new to me again.

True, this latest bout with life- on a grander scale then I ever expected- has taken it's toll, and I've not really been interested in all of this much- it really has nothing to do with tickling itself or being bored... it has to do with everything attached to real life and just not caring for self pleasure after such a tragedy. Life is gone in a second. TG and others have done their best to get me going with it again- and maybe my heart will come back to it, or maybe not. The tickling world will continue w/o me just as well.

But my point is to anyone who may be feeling a lack of excitement in it as I did- try being creative, reach for more. Perhaps that will do the trick. And if you follow what I've done, you can discover a million new tricks to try... as well as uncover some secrets about yourself!

And that alone may be the biggest gift of all.

KJ
 
how long before your tickling interest fades?

My first de-lurk. My thoughts on the subject of your tickling interest fading is not so much that it fades, but, that the oportunities that you've had in younger years is what fades. When you are a kid, it's nothing to initiate tickling with just about anyone young or old. But as an adult, such actions could have deistating effects. Being labeled as a "perv" isin't something I'd want. So, in the light of descretion, oportunities are much less available.🙁
 
32 next month here. And while I no longer take the time to read and save every story, buy every video, and look at every picture that comes my way, I'm not sure it's a matter of my feelings changing. Perhaps it's because such material is available in such relative abundance these days. When stories only popped up on Usenet every so often, I'd have to read them all to make sure I didn't miss anything good, but now that five or so are posted here every day, to say nothing of Tales from the Asylum and Fiendish Intent, I can afford to be a little more blase. And in no way am I becoming indifferent to having a lovely ticklish woman within reach -- and I hope I never do.
 
Clarification...

Let's see...my definition of 'too young' may not fit everyone, but I like it when I mention the Beatles and they know they were a singing group, ok? As for opportunities "fading'...aaah...no! Always there and usually unique. If you have that tk creativity, the only limits are your own. I agree with the comment on discretion, but that's one of the few advantages of aging, as we've previously discussed...gaining some self control and perspective and applying it so you don't end up on page 2 of your local paper. Interesting history KJ, wish I had a bio fit to write for comparision...lol. I went through a "hot streak" for about 5 years when I was in the restaurant business (back rooms are ready made dungeons!), but never had your public exposure (yeah...it's an attempt at a pun) or sense of community. BTW, hi to robmic and hope you stay delurked and chatting! Q
 
How long before the INTEREST fades? Which aspect? The sexual aspect will, for many, fade when the rest of the sex drive in you fades.

How would I know this? I've experienced it.

I had a couple of strokes by 35. Each will temporarily age you, cerebrally, causing physical responses much like those of someone substantially older. My physicians, especially the neurologists in both cases, warned of an absense of sex drive, as it wanes in a majority of folks passing 60, and I was given a short-term pass to my future.

No drive.

There's a wonderful clarity to things, sans sex drive. Did it end my interest in this? Nope. I still played with play partners regularly every month, and still do. I just didn't experience a sexual aspect to this. This interest SEEMS to be entirely sexual to most, here. Most here aren't past the point where the drive is dominant. Would that there were magic pills to temporarily disable such, without any lasting damage. It's a phenominal thing to be without such for any period of time. Provides a clarity to the world that's previously more obscured.

Also explains why older men seem smarter than the younger ones. The intellect is the same. Age provides both wisdom and an idled obstruction.

Will your interest fade? Fade away, even? That depends on how your fascination is oriented. If you have no other interest in tickling, save the sexual, then when the sex drive goes, so will the interest, likely. It is likely to fade, slightly, when your physical drive for sex lessens, but, like straight folks still having interest in the opposite gender LONG past their 60s, this, too, will likely persist.

one long $0.02 worth,

dvnc
 
As We Get Older, Maybe Our Interest Should Be In Our Legacy

If age brings wisdom, does that mean those of us who are older are wise ticklers? Or, maybe just wise guys. Whichever it is, I hope we can turn our interest in something worthwhile to leave behind.

Whether tickling interest wanes with age may depend upon how hard-wired the interest is to a person’s sexuality. If the lines between tickling and sex are blurred, tickling interest is likely to follow the path of the libido. For every 50ish person easing back in the rocking chair, of course, there is a 70ish Hugh Hefner still servicing a bevy of babes thanks to the wonders of modern chemistry. Depending where each person falls on that continuum and where their partner(s) fall, is likely to determine the tickling interest level. If Hefner was a tickler, I don’t doubt that there would be several sets of stocks in the Playboy mansion right now where the latest playmate candidates were being tickle-tested to see which can stand to. . . . . . . sorry. I’m back. The pull of that fantasy was pretty strong, even on an old guy.

For those who have delinked tickling and sex, the interest will probably be based on what is happening in the field. If there is robust discussion and material and activity, interest may be maintained. If there is a return to the dark ages, interest is likely to wane.

I, too, come from the days when seeing the word TICKLE in print was enough to deliver a testosterone jolt. I think that experience, the fetish equivalent of living through the Depression, is what makes the oldsters so much more appreciative of the material available today. That’s why we have a tendency to rap on canes on the floor and tell the young whippersnappers to be glad they can actually choose which tickle videos to buy.

Oddly, the availability of material today may rob youngsters of certain riveting rite-of-passage experiences that many of us had when tickling or near-tickling took us by surprise. I still remember the exact moment in the 1960s when I was watching “The Avengers” episode “Escape In Time” and there was Diana Rigg barefoot . . .locked in stocks . . . in a dungeon . . . about to be tortured. She didn’t even get tickled, for God’s sake, and I was still struck deaf, dumb and blind just by the chance that she could have been. What a rush.

Even better was to be sitting in a movie theater on a college campus in the 1970s to see the soft-core SF film “Flesh Gordon” with a bunch of smirking buddies. When the camera did a close-up pan of the nude blonde strapped to a table and giggling while feathers stroked her whole body, I was pretty sure my head would explode–maybe both of them. Perhaps younger ticklers had that same intensity of reaction when they found their first tickling web site or saw their first video. I hope so. To have such an experience without chemical assistance was amazing.

One thing I think that the elders can and should provide to the younger generation is some perspective and advice on weathering their hormonal storms. It seems, sadly, that history too often repeats itself. We’ve seen it on Usenet and to a much lesser extent on the TMF. Driven by their powerful needs and the inability of any “material” to fill those needs, each new young group of ticklers get very demanding. They want more pictures and clips and stories and . . . well, they just generally want more of everything even though they don’t have the money to pay for it and they aren’t in a situation where they can give much back. They get jealous and angry and frustrated and the flames fly. The problem is that you can’t ever scratch your itch completely with other people’s stuff. You need to DO something about it. As Kujman said, you need to create something of your own. No video producer can every do justice to another person’s fantasy.

Back in the Tickle Depression, we had the same needs, but there wasn’t anywhere to go to demand free stuff. Imagine sending the infamous Tobias Hackner a letter saying you wanted free samples of his stuff before you would buy. Yeah, that would’ve worked. That’s why some of us turned to producing art and pictures and stories and public events. That’s why most of us, in our varied and clumsy ways, tried to integrate tickling in some way into our relationships. This forum offers help to people in how to do that from time-to-time, and I think it may be one of the most valuable roles older ticklers can play.

Somewhere in the younger generation, I hope, is one or more breakthrough individuals. Many of us producing material in the 70s and 80s had to work like crazy just to get tickling INTO the closet. Back then, tickling was lumped with a whole raft of S/M and B/D practices. It took a lot of work just to get a separate and distinct seat at the fetish table. Today, we need people to keep pushing us into the mainstream.

There has been some progress there. The celebrity team has gotten “the question” into countless online chats with stars. The best thing is that they usually manage to do it fairly smoothly without fetishistic overtones. Lots of people participating in those chats now probably take it as fairly natural that a star will be asked if she’s ticklish. The fact that most answer also opens the closet door a bit.

Getting Howard Stern to do on-air tickling was another step in the right direction. OK, so he’s not the best person to point to prove that the rest of us are normal, but it helps.

Yaqi’s efforts in England and with MTV are also groundbreaking. If that program airs, it could be a huge step. He’s a normal, interesting person–not some raincoated pervert (although, I’m sure he wears a raincoat when it rains–nothing wrong with that).

I don't know how many of you know this, but when Jeff started Magic Touch back in Boston, he actually got interviewed by a newspaper about his new business, just like it was a bakery or a hardware store. I'm telling you, that could not have happened 30 years ago.

I’m also stunned that “Tales Of The Asylum” is actually carried in comic stores around the country. That’s been a great step in the right direction.

As elder statespersons, we need to keep prompting and pushing the energetic younger ticklers to stop lurking and complaining and start DOING more for themselves and the world. Maybe somebody out there will be the first one to work a character into a movie or TV show who is a tickler. Imagine that. Not a weirdo, but a character who is a regular person who just happens to have a mildly offbeat but fascinating interest. . . kinda like all of us.

That’s the kind of thing I dream about as I get older (OK, OK, along with that dream of “mature” woman Sela Ward spread-eagled and writhing as my fingernails stroke her helpless soles). Wouldn’t it be great for generations of ticklers still unborn if we could give them a world where they could mention to others that they were into tickling and it raised no more eyebrows than an interest in stamp collecting or stock car racing.

That would be a great legacy.
 
Re: Good question

Tickler2001 said:
At 50+ will I still want to tickle any of these people and will any opportunity's to tickle 50+ women that are not my wife ever arise? It doesn't seem likely, but only time will tell. [/B]

An interesting point that I had not fully considered. It probably is less likely that we elders can find 50+ women who are willing to be tickled. It took me years of helping my tickle partner along before she came to fully appreciate the enhancements of sexual tickling - before and during sex. If I had to start over now, I'm not sure I'd have the patience.

One of many good things about this Forum: It offers opportunities of finding like-minded people. It raises the odds tremendously over just looking around among the general public. There's another facet I had never thought about: If we could assemble a room full of women -let's say about 1000 - what are the chances that one or more of them would be a willing ticklee? Of course, many of them would be ticklish, but how many would (even under ideal circumstances) be willing to be bound and tickled senseless?
 
my interest will never fade,but the opportunities will....but being only 20 the opportunities keep on coming
 
Fade?

Wow...you guys have NO idea...lol...more chances at almost 50 than 20! Now I'm perceived as "harmless", whereas you young studs are assumed to be on the prowl constantly. You have to work with what ya got!! 🙂 Q
 
My thoughts...

Kujman - MUCH obliged for the bio, you make a point that I feel is extremely important and you do it with the backdrop of evidence that your own life provides.

Moriarity - I still remember the first day I pulled up "Google" and, on a total whim, looked up "tickling". I spent about 15 hours straight online, every new discovery rocked my world entirly. I went from looking up "tickle" in the dictionary (and, I might add, I too have a finely honed sense of "c-k-l" to this day) to finding stories, pictures, and even - with the new computer and vid card - multimedia.
When I finally got used to the abundance of tickling "stuff" and became a bit more specific in my ideal storyline, I hit on the solution of writing my own stuff. Sadly, much of it is so specific that it isn't even worth posting, because tickling barely makes up half of it - but it works for me better than any mass consumption story. With that said, I would like to set aside more time to write tickle specific stories because I know that I owe a "debt to society", so to speak.

As to the thread - I am 19 years old, and have been especially blessed in the last few years as far as tickling goes. For one, I have a peculiar empathy that helps a lot with determining people who share at least the ability to relate to my love of tickling. (This same blessing helps me a great deal with understanding other people in general and is one of the things I am most grateful for; it certainly makes understanding girls a lot easier than it appears to be for the male gender at large!🙂) I also am remarkably ticklish, a 'Lee, and relatively small (under 130 pounds) for a guy, all of which adds up to a quick reputation for being ticklish and NOT being a threat. My interest is thus quickly fired up whenever it begins to wane. My interest in tickling is also relatively non-sexual - I don't even believe in pre-marital sex, nor do I really desire it, so that helps keep the "vibe" non-sexual. That's a big plus in not scaring off ticklers from doing repeats, since ticklers in my case usually refers to girls and therefore tend to shy away from overly sexual activities.

Anyway, a really long message just rambling on. I shall shut myself up now. 🙂
 
Provides a clarity to the world that's previously more obscured. Also explains why older men seem smarter than the younger ones. The intellect is the same. Age provides both wisdom and an idled obstruction.
This is funny stereotype about men. It is true in my own case, I don't know how true it is outside of myself. I remember seeing a Seinfeld episode in which George practices abstinence, and becomes a lesser genius (in so many words). It is funny though, because it's kind of true. I go through periods of time (that can last hours or days, rarely weeks) in which I am constantly "on the prowl" either in a tickling sense or a "boring" sexual sense 😉 And then sometimes I am free of primal hindrences. There's a reason for this lack of drive. It's usually engendered by creative spurts. Whenever I'm in the middle of writing something I'm just pouring my heart into, it happens. Or when I'm drawing, mapping, or anything else that occupies the full capacity of my logical and creative side. At that time, my sexual side just disappears. It no longer exists. Tickling takes a backburner.

It's an odd thing to go through, but it's marvelous. Like DVNC said, you can go through amazing spurts of clarity and vivid introspective perceptions.


does that mean those of us who are older are wise ticklers? Or, maybe just wise guys.
Hehe, I like this one.

I don't think that tickling will ever become divorced of my personality. It's just that it will vary as to how sexual it will be in my life. I plan to have children. I plan on tickling my children. At no point in time will it be a sexual activity. The same as when my wife will tickle our children. There's a time and place for everything.

And that's what I dig so much about this love affair we have with laughter. It can be the most innocent thing in the world; it can be the most sensuous thing in the world. Not many communications between homo sapien have similar bragging rights.
 
Stereotype? It's no stereotype, Ob. Find me a guy with an active sex drive who ISN'T swayed by it. You won't find many, if any at all. Only guy I knew that was unswayed didn't seem to HAVE a sex drive. Never saw him with ANYONE. Still haven't, really

It's a tendency of our gender to focus EITHER on sex OR on any other thing. Sexual drive is there for procreation, if you follow evolution's theories. Sin, if you follow most religions. Either way, the sex drive is a misdirection when you don't wanna baby-make.

Ain't a bad thing, though. That's just wirin'. A man can learn to deal with his wirin'. Focus on excellence in another area usually wins.

Like you, brother, I'll be tickling my babies, if I'm so fortunate to receive such. Such IS possible for many of our group, here. I always compare it to kissing. Can't imagine kissin' in only one way. Ma ain't gonna get the wrong kinda kiss, nor will my friend's baby girl, to whom I read stories weekly. Neither get the kiss a lover gets. Kissing and tickling are contextually differentiated actions. More simply put, it's different, depending on who's bein' tickled.

Y'know, I don't recall ever hearing from a 'lee on that one. Any of ya that can comment on whether BEING tickled by family or friends is differentiated from bein' tickled by a potential lover. That would be good to know. Any 'lee care t'comment? Maybe we oughta start a new thread on that one. "Are 'lees ALWAYS aroused by tickling, or is it only when the 'ler attracts them?"

dvnc
 
dvnc said:
Y'know, I don't recall ever hearing from a 'lee on that one. Any of ya that can comment on whether BEING tickled by family or friends is differentiated from bein' tickled by a potential lover. That would be good to know. Any 'lee care t'comment? Maybe we oughta start a new thread on that one. "Are 'lees ALWAYS aroused by tickling, or is it only when the 'ler attracts them?"

dvnc

>>I actually did comment on this in a thread about phone tickling. It was posted that someone was listening to his friend being tickled by her mother while on the phone with her.
Although I understand that tickling doesn't have to be sexual, to me it is very arousing. I have no desire to act on this with anyone but my Master, but I won't say that I don't get araoused.
Therefore, the idea of being ticked by a family member just gives me the creeps. I had written in this other thread that this is the reason my mom knows about my BDSM desires, but not my tickling fetish.

Jen
 
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