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How Would You Handle This..

Mitchell

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I would appreciate sincere feedback on a situation I'm having.

Something's been happening, and it's really getting on my nerves.

I dont remember if I mentioned on here ever, how my friend Barney is extremely arrogant.

He brags, and boasts, about his situation, while being insensitive to others, and not wanting to hear if someone else has something else good happen.

After receiving tenure from his job..

He gets. free hotel rooms/meal money, etc etc on the road when he travels.

Yet, he's the epitome of a selfish individual, wanting to have advantages on everything from others, and giving little or nothing in return.

As most on here know, I've had a horrible time in the year and a half since I lost Aflac, with the job search, my father, hoping some things I'm working on, come through, etc.

Barney will see me, and be like.

"I get so many free things on the road. I get meal money every day, and eat very cheaply, so I can hold most of it, more money in my pocket".

Yet, if anything were to go well for me/does go well, he acts jealous.

Case in point.

When Maria was here, and she and I were exploring our feelings for each other, he kept making snide negative comments almost like he didnt want it to happen, because at that moment he didnt have a girlfriend or anyone interested in him.

Another case, a long time ago, but indicative of how he is.

After he bragged for a whole year about his upcoming world trip.

I then got word I would be moving to Lancaster, which at the time made me very happy, because I was unhappy in Fort Lee, NJ where I was living at the time.

Literally, the week before I moved to Lancaster, Barney got fired from a job.

The last time he came to see me when I lived in NJ.. he was very.. sassy. saying

"Oh, I dont want to hear how happy you are that you're moving to Lancaster. You're leaving me, and that isnt good for me".

It's like.. at the time.. I had to do it, to make changes in my life.

Instead of saying something like "I'll miss you, and I'm sad that you're leaving because we wont be close to each other, and cant see each other as much", all this POS talked about was his feelings

This. from someone, who has spent his whole friendship with me, over 20 years, bragging and rubbing everything in my face, at times when things might be the worst for me, such as in the last year and a half, since I lost Aflac, and have been having such difficulties with the job search.

Right now, I dont want to give up a 20 year friendship with him, especially since he lives in my complex.

However, when he did his latest bout of bragging the other day, at a time when I;m holding my breath, waiting to hear about jobs I've applied to, I called him on his behavior, and politely told him to stop.

He then cancelled on me that day, claiming he was sick.

He then, made plans with another friend for Saturday, and told me he was busy.

When I asked him about seeing me Sunday, he was very aloof, saying "We'll see".

As if this is a one person friendship, only his way, what he wants to do, and as if I shouldnt be fucking fed up with his bragging, and being jealous or sassy to me, if things go well for me, when he's having a problem.

For information sake, although it doesnt matter, because its a separate relationship.

My other friends, the ones I know from college who dont have to do with Barney, including with people I've recently resurrected with after a long time, cant stand Barney, neither can my friend Adam.

My parents cant/couldnt stand him.

My Dad has refused to get him a job, or help him, even when I first moved to NY, Barney was unemployed, and when things were fine with me, and my Dad.

My mom, sweet lady that she was, didnt like him.


He would come into our house, time after time, and never bring any token of appreciation, like a housewarming gift.,

It was after a while, my mom finally said to him, and she had tact. She was making him meals, paying for his dinners when he was there, etc. "Barney, how many times are you going to come in here, and never even bring a small token of showing you're civil, like a housewarming gift or a pie".

I'm going to my friend Tom's house for dinner on Friday, and I immediately asked him what does he like that I could bring. I'll be getting a pie, cake, etc. I wanted to show my appreciation for his having me over, treating me to dinner, etc, and not being.. a user or taker.

Sorry to go on. The more I write this, the more pissed off I get.

Any advice/insight would be appreciated,.

Thanks.
 
Is there a reason you stay friends with the guy? He doesn't sound like a very pleasant person to be around. I know back in my younger days, I stuck it out with horrible people because I didn't have a back bone and didn't want to lose friends. As an adult, I realized my mental health was more important than having a lot of friends. A friend should lift you up (so to speak), not make you feel bad.

If I were you in this situation, I'd think about why I was still friends with him and if he was really worth it.
 
Thanks, Bethan.

I stay friends with him for a couple of reasons. '

One.. you may not have read my earlier posts about this.. it happened about five years ago.

In 2010, I was forced to end my friendship with my now former best friend of 30 years, when he completely ignored me at a time my mom was in the hospital battling cancer. My mom was hospitalized for many weeks at one point, and my ex best friend never called, or came to see us when my mom was sick, because he was feeling.. arrogant about himself due to having met a girl a week earlier. I didnt expect him to ignore or discount his new girlfriend to spend time with me. I know the relationship with the significant other has to come first, but, I think he could have.. found a short time to visit us in the hospital, knowing how sick my mom was, and how stressed and saddened I was, watching her dying of cancer. At that point, things deteriorated, and our friendship ended about a month later, when he again cancelled on me at a time I needed his support, due to my mom's illness, just to focus on his own needs.

Maybe this is a different situation. It's just.. I would hate to have to end another almost quarter century friendship,

I greatly value my friends, and long term relationships, maybe also because I dont have a strong relationship with any of my current living family members.

I see your point.

I may just let things hang with him, and not say anything.

He's supposed to move in the fall, out of my complex. If that happens, and he's still acting like this, I think I;m just going to let it fade out with him, and not make any dramatic "Fuck You, I dont want to be friends with you anymore". I'll just let the friendship die of the natural causes he's making things as.

Thanks again
 
I can certainly understand not wanting to end a friendship that's been going on for that long. I'm also sorry about your former friend. With that being said, I think letting it fade is a good idea. Or, just not spending as much time with him as you used to. Focus on people that make you feel good about yourself.
 
Thanks, I appreciate your advice, and I'm going to do what you suggested.
 
TLDR

Talk to Barney about how you feel about the way he acts in a kind way that doesn't sound like an attack and see if you can remedy things. Otherwise, cut him out of your life. No need to deal with negativity if you don't have to. Spinning it a million different ways in your head and on here only makes the whole situation seem way more dramatic. At the end of the day, friends get on each others nerves sometimes. Its just life.
 
I have talked to him about this, many times, for years, and he doesnt seem to listen, its like he cant control himself.

Maybe its a different situation but.. as a metaphor, and maybe this is a bad example to use, especially on a tickling site.

One partner, a ler, tickles another partner, their lee, even though the ler knows the lee hates it.

The lee constantly tells them "Stop this behavior, I hate to be tickled. You do it over and over again, I tell you to stop, and you dont". The ler isnt listening, or caring about the lees feelings.

I'm carefully considering the situation with Barney before doing anything, because. A. I dont want another 20 year friendship to end, and B. he lives close to me, and its convenient, even though someone else I know told me thats not an excuse to keep him.
 
Yeah, convenience isn't really a great basis for friendship. And of course, every relationship friendship etc has issues, but if its worth it to all parties to make it work, sometimes you have to accept flaws, forgive mistakes, and compromise. Hopefully, you two can talk it out. Otherwise, maybe your life is better without him?
 
I see your point.

He seems unwilling to compromise.

I dont know.

I'm going to think about it. I havent heard from him.

Thanks again for your insight, chicago.
 
Kinda tagging along on what Chicago said, you've known him for 20 or so years. Has he ever been supportive, or "nice"? From the descriptions you've given, he sounds more like one your favorite Republicans, The Donald. And, as you sit here and berate him and so forth, what is that doing to your health (hint - it does affect it)? Yes, losing another "friend" isn't easy, but then again, is he really a friend? Don't envy your decision, but do what will give you peace.
 
Hi rdhd, thanks for your insight.

He was very supportive when my mom was sick and died. He came to visit us several times during the long summer we had in NJ in 2011 when my mom was getting treatment, and he did come to the funeral.

Then again, like I said.. at that point.. he was unemployed, and my life was up in the air.

Since he got this job with tenure, and especially since I lost Aflac, have been trying to get a job, and with the Hell the last year and a half has been for me, he seems to get worse and worse.

Has he "ever" been a friend? Yes, at one time. Now, his behavior is just increasingly irritating.

I dont know what would give me peace.

Right now, I think I may just let it sit for a while.

Thanks again for your insight, rdhd
 
However, when he did his latest bout of bragging the other day, at a time when I;m holding my breath, waiting to hear about jobs I've applied to, I called him on his behavior, and politely told him to stop.

My Dad has refused to get him a job, or help him, even when I first moved to NY, Barney was unemployed, and when things were fine with me, and my Dad.

Hmmmm, I don't know about Barney, but could your father get you a job? A year and a half of searching is tough, and employers will wonder why there was such a large employment gap. Maybe your father could get you something temporary so employers would see you're actively involved with something? Good luck either way.
 
Jericho, I dont think my father can.. or it would have happened already.

I'm going to keep working on things.
 
Barney is an example of an emotional vampire. After you worked things out, make sure to be very busy. Always get yourself occupied whenever Barney needs you. In that way, there is no need for you to make any excuses. It means, drop Barney for good.
 
Thanks, Boh. I appreciate the advice.

I had plans to see him for dinner tonight, which I'm going to keep.

However, I found out some disappointing news last night.

Another good friend of mine, had thought that they could have helped me with contacts so that I could get an insurance position, , and it turns out that they are unable to, so, while they are of course still my good friend, I'm disappointed about them not being able to connect me with someone who can help me with an insurance job.

I told this to Barney, so he knows I'm feeling very disappointed about the situation with my other friend, and his insurance contacts. .

I swear, if Barney brags tonight, I'm going to take a long hiatus from him.

He has a habit of making me feel worse when I'm already feeling bad.

Thanks for the advice, Boh.
 
An update to this..

The friend I saw over the weekend.. is now ill. I'm very upset about his illness.

I called Barney, and was like "I'm very upset, and I'm keeping the appointment with you tonight, but you better not brag.. I;m fucking sick of hearing it".


Barney was then like "It's best that we postpone this for another time, and I;ll call you in two days" as if this is a one person friendship.

I let him have it, and was like "Are you that full of yourself, that you dont give a shit how I feel.."

Most important, I'm very upset about my good friend being sick.

Secondary, about not being able to get the position I thought I might.

It will take a hell of a lot longer than "Two Days" to get over what Barney did.

Barney then told me that "I need to regroup". (Meaning me, that I need to regroup)

Seriously.. Fuck Him.

I now just want to be there for my friend who is sick, and figure out what I'm going to do to find a position.

As far as Barney, I dont care anymore.
 
Mitch, I think you have settled on an answer. As for ol' fiddle-faddle, as we used to say in PA, "them's the breaks." Get on with your life, and forget about his my man. And good luck finding work ( I know the feeling).
 
Thanks for your good wishes on finding work, rd.

I agree that I'm going to forget about him.

Take care.
 
I have to almost laugh. It would figure after how much the last 36 hours has sucked, between my friend being sick, and the situation with the job my friend was trying to get me.

As I was going food shopping before, and was walking up the hill to my building, guess who I passed? That's right! None other than Barney!

I handled it in a very. coy manner.

I wasn't friendly.. and I didnt start a fight with him.

All I said was. "Excuse me, I think I know you".

Barney was like "Yes, you do".

Then we went on our way.

That just caps what has been a very difficult 36 hours between my friend being sick, and the situation with the job.

Sigh!

Hopefully something positive will happen soon.
 
The difference between.,. a friend..and not.

The friend who is ill, sent me a beautiful, unexpected, gift.

I've been trying to get in touch with him to thank him.

He said he isnt up to talking on the phone, because he isnt feeling well.

Understood.

I was calling to most important, check in on how he's feeling, and also of course to thank him for the beautiful gift he sent me.

Now I'm going to respect his wishes to get better before he and I talk.

Barney has never respected my wishes, with the bragging.

It will be interesting to see where things go with Barney.
 
What I always do when determining whether or not I keep up with relationships is how they make me feel. If it's bitter, anger, and resentment all the time, then it's probably a good indication that it's time to just simply let it fade naturally. Or, take some "time out"....don't talk to them for a while, and then check in when and if you feel like it.
 
I see your point, Bethan.

Again, another indication of a "Friend".

My friend who was sick, felt better today, so he called me.

I thanked him personally for the gift he sent me, and we had a nice talk.

I got off the phone feeling good, most importantly because my friend is feeling better, but also because we had a good, productive, talk.

Right now I'm just going to let it sit with Barney.

I'm not planning to let it go, but nor am I going to seek him out, and allow him to do the same things to me, that he does to make me feel badly. As you said, I'm going to just take time away, focus on what I have to do, and on those who make me feel good.

Thanks again, Bethan.
 
I have to laugh again.

Yesterday afternoon, when I was going to the supermarket, guess who I ran into again for the second time this week? Barney!'

I was furious when I saw him.


He had been blowing me off, not emailing or calling.

I specifically asked him if he wanted a 20 plus year friendship to end, and he said no.

We started walking, and we decided to go out to dinner.

It turns out.. there may be a partial explanation for his not being in touch with me, that I didnt know about until yesterday.

He met a woman

Had I known this.. I wouldnt have been upset about his not being in touch with me.

He also travels a lot for work.

And..

He's likely moving into the city.

So.. the bottom line is.. I probably wont be seeing him as often as in the past.

Now that I know the reason (s),and circumstances, I'm not angry.

He also seemed to get it, finally, about the bragging.

I was with him, for a long time last night, and he didnt brag once.

So.. I guess I have to accept that it may well settle into a circumstance where I dont see or talk to him as much.

I would like.. not to have to end another 20 year friendship.

If I'm in touch with him.. sometimes. and he doesnt brag. I can deal with that.

I think.. it is/was the bragging that upset me most.

Just wanted to post an update to this.
 
How long are you gonna revel in the drama of nothing dude? You're giving us this play by play of bs but two weeks after asking our advice, nothing changed... Lol

Move onnnnn
 
chicago, as usual, another sassy, not well meaning reply by you,'

You, however, can get away with it, because you are apparently a special person,.

I wasn;t "reveling in the drama of nothing".

I was posting about a situation that was very difficult,.

Not that it's any of your beeswax, but.. I truly didnt want to give up another 20 plus year friendship, after being forced to end my relationship with my former best friend of 30 years in 2010, when my mom was sick.

Instead of saying.

"Gee, Mitch, thats good that you were able to resolve a situation with a friend of such long standing".

You posted what you did.

Nothing changes with you, either.
 
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