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I Need Help Dealing With Something

Borg Perfection

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How do you let go of hate? I'm not talking about anger; I'm talking about hate.

When someone betrays your trust, and purposely violates you... Purposely attacks you when you are vulnerable, and they know how much it's hurting you because they were so close to you yet they exploit that vulnerability.

When you are helpless as someone sadistically twists around the knife they've plunged in, just to see you squirm... How do you let it go?

My arms and hands are shaking, and I can barely type because I am so angry. What they've done is not important. What is important, is that I learn to let go of this cancerous emotion eating away at my insides.

It's hard to let go, when there isn't any justice. How do you let go when you feel you can't?
 
Give it a little time. When you cool down, the hate may still remain but it won't consume you.
 
I wish I knew the solution to that one, too. The only thing I can think of is separation from said-person, time, and the strength of apathy. :shrug: That's what works for me, anyway. Give it enough time, and I eventually stop caring about what it was that the person did, no matter how bad it was. I can still resent the person for their actions and withhold forgiveness, but it takes effort to draw forth that resentment, and apathy usually wins.
 
Hate is the coping mechanism that stays behind after the original emotion was triggered. It makes it easier for you to deal with something you either don't understand or fear, or both.

Either let some of it out of your system (rant, vent, turn to a friend, write, blast some death metal), or wait for the initial manic state you're in right now to simmer down on its own, then deal with the underlying emotion. If it's something you don't understand, go backwards in your mind and run through everything that led up to that moment. The more you understand something and break it down, the hows, the whys, etc. The more you'll start to feel like you have a grasp on what happened, why it happened and where the other person is coming from and why. The same goes with fear.

Another thing you might want to keep in mind is that whatever that person used against you only hurt so much because whatever was said had an element of truth to it. I mean that delicately. Nothing else would hurt as much, nothing but the truth leaves you as vulnerable. Without knowing details, know that whatever was said was merely spoken out loud. It's something you already know about yourself but are either afraid of or uncomfortable with. Your attacker knew that. So either deal with whatever that is or realize that all the other person really did was parrot back what you already know. Nothing has actually changed. The information was just laid out in front of you in an attempt to hurt you, not help. Remove the personal and look at it from that perspective. I hope THAT helps.
 
It just takes time.

The hurt will continue to hurt for awhile. It may overshadow other good things in your life for a time. If you can try to sit down and write a letter to that person that you will NEVER send. Get all your emotions down on paper. Use all the cuss words and everything to get it out of you and down on paper and then take some of the built up energy to rip it to shreds.

I've done that myself. It helped ease some of the hatred I had.

I had a situation back a several years ago that was VERY serious and could have resulted in losing part of my family - literally. The hatred and fear that grew from that was overwhelming. It took me several years but eventually I got to the point where I no longer hated that person but rather than that I felt sorry for him. He's troubled in so many ways and there was/is nothing I could do to help him because he wouldn't help himself. I finally forgave him in my heart. I would never care to talk to him about it but I finally let it go.

There are SO many more important things in our lives that deserve our attention. The person who "burned" you doesn't deserve your time or your attention. Try to let them go and write it off as a lesson learned. Each lesson in life, no matter how difficult it might be, is something that gives you an opportunity to learn and grow.

I wish you peace in your heart.

Jan
 
Anger & hatred often mask the underlying emotions of the pain and betrayal. It's never easy. But the desire to let go of it will help. I know from personal experience that hatred can consume us to the point of destroying us. If you can channel the energy of that anger into something positive, it will help a bit by acting like a pressure release valve. But, be sure to address the pain as well. That will be what brings healing in the end. You'll be in my prayers that you may find peace.
 
Time and distraction will heal you effectively. Keep yourself busy with hobbies, work and friends and you'll find you have little time to think about the thing that's enraging you. That feeling of hatred isn't going away overnight but a nice, healthy distraction will help to ease the transition of emotions.

Several years ago, a girlfriend cheated on me then broke up with me. It took several months to let go of the hatred I felt towards her. Fortunately, I had good friends to confide in. Additionally, I was working and going to college full-time so I didn't have much of an opportunity for brooding.
 
Start by separating person from behavior. I believe in a very basic goodness in most people. People will tend to do what they think is good at the time. Now, their view may be skewed, and so, their concept of good may be incredibly twisted and/or self-centered, but they still think it's the right or necessary thing to do in a given context, or they wouldn't do it.

Now, whatever they did, at some level, they believed that there was some good in it at the time. They may have been mistaken, and many are -- just as we all are taken in sometimes by wrong thinking. It's human.

Their failings are yours. Maybe worse, maybe not, but we all have errors in judgement.

Have compassion for them, because those who do evil have likely had evil done to them, leaving them broken.

Generally speaking, I find it very hard to hate a person. To do so would be as senseless as hating someone for being mentally ill. It's not within their power for the most part. It's not their fault they can't see outside themselves, their behaviors, or recognize their own shortcomings.

I can hate a deed or the outcome of a deed, but this too would be wasteful of my time and energy. And in the end, even the worst acts or circumstances have the potential to yield positive results. From a terrorist attack that killed thousands, hundreds of millions were united. From an unnecessary war and the deaths of hundreds of thousands, a country has rid itself of a brutal dictator, and millions will learn a freedom their predecessors lacked. You have been grievously hurt, and you will learn how to avoid this hurt again and grow strong.

Life is learning. Read from your experience whatever lessons you can.
 
i posted a thread like this before and got some very wise responses back. for me tho the best thing you can do is chanel your hate-smash the granny out of a bag for a bit or go for a run. in the long term as much as i try i cant seem to forgive or forget-you may be a bit better at that than me but if not dont worry too much-he/shes an arsehole remember!!!
 
Oh man! That is a hard question. I think hate is one of the phases we all go through in order to get over someone. After awhile you will wonder why you let them get to you so much.

There are some people that just hurt to hurt. That is the sad honest truth. They find a weakness, then exploit it. Like they never grew out of the school bully phase.

I would say start by doing things you like to do and get your mind off of it. Watch something funny. Anger only begets more anger.

Hang in there buddy!
 
It takes a really long time. Eventually, your anger subsides.
Then, you can start saying words of forgiveness. Finally, a
point comes where you actually feel the forgiveness toward
them. Then the hate will dissipate. That's been my experience.
 
Everyone's given you good advice and you should take all of it. After you've gone through the hate, anger, bitterness, and sheer rage of it all, it's about time you sat down with you and started asking the tough questions.

I don't know if these emotions are coming from a recent or long-past relationship but based on some of your previous posting, I'm starting to see a pattern emerge. There are certain personalities we tend to be attracted to that are just plain old unhealthy for us and we should avoid like the plague, but we don't because it's just plain too hot! The chemistry sets us ablaze in the beginning but incinerates us in the end because the very thing that attracted us to the person ends up being the thing that repels (or even repusles) us in the end. I'm also venturing to guess that a lot of that hatred and anger is at yourself because you end up in the same spot every time.

Borg, it's time to stand in the mirror and check yourself (and I mean this in the most constructive way that I can). You need to ask yourself where is your responsibility in the relationship if for no other reason that you're allowing crap to go on for way too long. There is no 100-0 relationships; in other words, both parties are responsible for an unsuccessful relationship. Learn to spot the signs long before you plunge heart-deep in your relationship. I bet if you really take the time for self-introspection you'll see what I'm talking about, learn the signs, and take the steps to avoid a lot of hurt and pain.

When I did the "man/woman in the mirror" I ended up taking a six year hiatus from dating and relationships. I needed to purge myself from a lot of old mess in my life that defined the men I chose to date/marry. I had to deal with lack of self-confidence and self-esteem (issues I still work on a daily basis) and stopped being a man's doormat. Now those were my issues; your's may be different but if you think you're issue-free then ask yourself one question; "how do I always end up here?" Until you take time to find those answers, you're going to land in the same miserable spot every single time, trust me on this one.

You impress me as a young guy; don't waste your youth on nonsense. You spend a lot of time developing your body; invest some time in developing and strengthening your mind and emotions too. If you do it now, you'll save yourself decades of hurt in the long run. You can't control how others treat you, but you can use it as an opportunity to get to know yourself better and be more selective as to whom you allow in your life in the future.
 
Sorry I haven't responded to anyone until today. I really do appreciate some of the advice, I'd just decided to stay away from internet forums for a few days, cause we all know how forums work wonders on the blood pressure!

Anyway:

Either let some of it out of your system (rant, vent, turn to a friend, write, blast some death metal), or wait for the initial manic state you're in right now to simmer down on its own, then deal with the underlying emotion. If it's something you don't understand, go backwards in your mind and run through everything that led up to that moment. The more you understand something and break it down, the hows, the whys, etc. The more you'll start to feel like you have a grasp on what happened, why it happened and where the other person is coming from and why. The same goes with fear.

Another thing you might want to keep in mind is that whatever that person used against you only hurt so much because whatever was said had an element of truth to it. I mean that delicately. Nothing else would hurt as much, nothing but the truth leaves you as vulnerable. Without knowing details, know that whatever was said was merely spoken out loud. It's something you already know about yourself but are either afraid of or uncomfortable with. Your attacker knew that. So either deal with whatever that is or realize that all the other person really did was parrot back what you already know. Nothing has actually changed. The information was just laid out in front of you in an attempt to hurt you, not help. Remove the personal and look at it from that perspective. I hope THAT helps.

Very good advice to try and percieve it from an objective point of view. I appreciate it.

However, as far as their being "an element of truth"... that part doesn't apply to this particular example. It isn't what they said; it's what they did. I suffer from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, and this person knows why, and purposely did things to trigger me to have a serious episode and then got off laughing while they did it, and "twisting the knife" as much as possible.

I am trying to apply the logic of your advice to other things this person has done, such as facing the truth of hurtful things they have said and I agree with you. But there are times when things hurt not because there is any truth to them at all, but rather because of the pain of someone ignorantly illegitimizing everything that you stand for, painting you as the exact opposite of what you really are.

There are SO many more important things in our lives that deserve our attention. The person who "burned" you doesn't deserve your time or your attention. Try to let them go and write it off as a lesson learned. Each lesson in life, no matter how difficult it might be, is something that gives you an opportunity to learn and grow.

I wish you peace in your heart.

Jan

I am saddened by what happened to you, and I appreciate your advice and well wishes. You're right that this person does not deserve my attention and I seem like an idiot for being involved with them at all in the first place, however I am finding it difficult to let go, as this person had become my family, despite their sadistic nature.

Start by separating person from behavior. I believe in a very basic goodness in most people. People will tend to do what they think is good at the time. Now, their view may be skewed, and so, their concept of good may be incredibly twisted and/or self-centered, but they still think it's the right or necessary thing to do in a given context, or they wouldn't do it.

Now, whatever they did, at some level, they believed that there was some good in it at the time. They may have been mistaken, and many are -- just as we all are taken in sometimes by wrong thinking. It's human.

Their failings are yours. Maybe worse, maybe not, but we all have errors in judgement.

Have compassion for them, because those who do evil have likely had evil done to them, leaving them broken.

Generally speaking, I find it very hard to hate a person. To do so would be as senseless as hating someone for being mentally ill. It's not within their power for the most part. It's not their fault they can't see outside themselves, their behaviors, or recognize their own shortcomings.

I can hate a deed or the outcome of a deed, but this too would be wasteful of my time and energy. And in the end, even the worst acts or circumstances have the potential to yield positive results. From a terrorist attack that killed thousands, hundreds of millions were united. From an unnecessary war and the deaths of hundreds of thousands, a country has rid itself of a brutal dictator, and millions will learn a freedom their predecessors lacked. You have been grievously hurt, and you will learn how to avoid this hurt again and grow strong.

Life is learning. Read from your experience whatever lessons you can.

Well wow Capn, my feelings towards you have drastically changed after reading this, and that helps a lot in itself. A very wise and enlightened post, and sincerely thank you for it. I believe what you've shared is the best advice for me at this point here, though my difficulty is in my being governed by emotions rather than logic. I always see the logical side of things, and what you've pointed out is very true and I hope that soon my heart and mind can synchronize with those philosophies, as I am prone to being swept up in my emotions.

Thank you for a genuine response despite our differences in other threads.

Everyone's given you good advice and you should take all of it. After you've gone through the hate, anger, bitterness, and sheer rage of it all, it's about time you sat down with you and started asking the tough questions.

I don't know if these emotions are coming from a recent or long-past relationship but based on some of your previous posting, I'm starting to see a pattern emerge. There are certain personalities we tend to be attracted to that are just plain old unhealthy for us and we should avoid like the plague, but we don't because it's just plain too hot! The chemistry sets us ablaze in the beginning but incinerates us in the end because the very thing that attracted us to the person ends up being the thing that repels (or even repusles) us in the end. I'm also venturing to guess that a lot of that hatred and anger is at yourself because you end up in the same spot every time.

Borg, it's time to stand in the mirror and check yourself (and I mean this in the most constructive way that I can). You need to ask yourself where is your responsibility in the relationship if for no other reason that you're allowing crap to go on for way too long. There is no 100-0 relationships; in other words, both parties are responsible for an unsuccessful relationship. Learn to spot the signs long before you plunge heart-deep in your relationship. I bet if you really take the time for self-introspection you'll see what I'm talking about, learn the signs, and take the steps to avoid a lot of hurt and pain.

When I did the "man/woman in the mirror" I ended up taking a six year hiatus from dating and relationships. I needed to purge myself from a lot of old mess in my life that defined the men I chose to date/marry. I had to deal with lack of self-confidence and self-esteem (issues I still work on a daily basis) and stopped being a man's doormat. Now those were my issues; your's may be different but if you think you're issue-free then ask yourself one question; "how do I always end up here?" Until you take time to find those answers, you're going to land in the same miserable spot every single time, trust me on this one.

You impress me as a young guy; don't waste your youth on nonsense. You spend a lot of time developing your body; invest some time in developing and strengthening your mind and emotions too. If you do it now, you'll save yourself decades of hurt in the long run. You can't control how others treat you, but you can use it as an opportunity to get to know yourself better and be more selective as to whom you allow in your life in the future.

You're also correct, as you say there is no "100-0" in relationships. You're right, that I allowed myself to end up in this place -- not at first, but certainly recently. I have known for a long time that this person was abusive, and instead of saying "so long" I allowed my interactions with them to continue, and that is my fault.

I've known it all along, but it is next to impossible to just cut the cord when someone has become family, and even more-so pretty much the only family I have. I've spent many days and nights throughout the past few years wrestling with which decision would be more painful -- a damned if I do, damned if I don't sort of scenario.

I agree wholely with what you say about developing the mind as well as the body, and also the soul. Despite what many may believe about me due to quarreling in certain threads, I am a very spiritual person. I have been in heavy practice of the teachings of the Tao Te Ching and Buddhism, and much less successfully, the teachings of Christ (even though I do not identify myself as a "Christian" in the religious sense) for the past few years, and I can honestly say my mind and soul are much more developed than even my body, but I'd just reached a breaking point.

Very wise and enlightened advice from you as well, and I thank you sincerely. I am also glad that we seem to be becoming more amiable despite our differences in other threads.

To everyone else who replied I am equally appreciative, and again I am sorry I didn't reply right away.
 
Borg Perfection: The big question that a lot hinges on is, are you in a position to remove yourself from this person's life and never deal with this person again, or are there continued connections that will keep you in contact? The ideal would be if you don't have to see this person again. But one thing you should do, in addition to anything else, is make a big point of strengthening and reaffirming your relationships with the people in your life who can be trusted and who do respect your feelings, including casual friends whom you only see a few times a year. Oftentimes the biggest mistake we make is to put more energy and attention into our bad relationships than our good ones.
 
Turn the page and move on---or if there is something that is making you hang on--whether it be a tinge of a bond you have with this person or something--let time heal and then if you feel up to it, go from there.

Life is short.
 
How do you let go of hate? I'm not talking about anger; I'm talking about hate.

When someone betrays your trust, and purposely violates you... Purposely attacks you when you are vulnerable, and they know how much it's hurting you because they were so close to you yet they exploit that vulnerability.

When you are helpless as someone sadistically twists around the knife they've plunged in, just to see you squirm... How do you let it go?

My arms and hands are shaking, and I can barely type because I am so angry. What they've done is not important. What is important, is that I learn to let go of this cancerous emotion eating away at my insides.

It's hard to let go, when there isn't any justice. How do you let go when you feel you can't?

Speaking from first-hand experience, it'll take more than "a little time" to 'cool off' or 'get over it'. You're right, hate is a cancer- if you see it this way you're already on the path to recovery. I seethed with hatred for years after someone (several people) betrayed me deeply; the results of their actions shattered my life, and it took years to recover from the damage and re-build another life, let alone overcome the desire for revenge.

I read a good article on how torture victims overcome the psychological damage done to them, and the same principles apply.

Forgiveness is a key part; you don't forgive to absolve the other person but to release yourself from the poison. You need never speak to these backstabbers again unless they come to you repentant, apologizing. (You DON'T pretend everything's alright with them, you DON'T ignore your hurt- that's a misconception about forgiveness)

Forgiveness is for YOU, for YOUR benefit not theirs. It releases you so their actions can't harm you again and again every day.

The cliches are true that hatred is a poison, it consumes you; true, but not in the way someone who hasn't experienced it would understand. I turned away from revenge but it took YEARS. At least you see it that way already; to name a problem is the greatest step towards overcoming it.

Black Sabbath has a lyric "How could this poison be the dream of my soul?" I dreamed of revenge, even PLANNED it; it became "the dream of my soul" until I turned away from it. BUT IT TOOK YEARS to get to the point I'm at now, and it was HARD, as hard as a disease. But it's worth it.
Believe me my life without that horrible weight is so much better.

Please PM me, I'd really like to chat and help you however I can.
 
It depends on what they've done.

I'm assuming that whatever caused this must have been somewhat serious if it's enough to inspire this thread. Regardless of what it is, the cooling down period is useful for 2 reasons....

1) it makes forgiveness more likely

2) it allows for a calculated revenge should you choose to carry out one...
 
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