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I wonder when these changes will occur..

melanie2

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Regarding the economy etc..they are laying off people at my husband's company right and left..Will he be next? I"m afraid things will get much worse first before we finally pull thru this mess..I sure wouldn't want to be the President today..
 
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A curious question arises... Do you wake up at 5 on the dot just to pontificate upon things, or do your daily threads come to you spontaneously?

Oh, I suppose I should be generous and answer the original post topically. Life's stressful enough without additional tangents leaving everyone without segues back to the thoughts at hand.

The most likely answer to your question is "possibly." He will possibly be axed next. I'm not sure I'd want to be the president, per se, but I can't say it'd be unpleasant to wake up to Michelle Obama. 😉 All the same, the economy blows and will continue blustering heavily on into midday bringing with it a chance of scattered showers until 9 tonight. Back to you, Dan.
 
hmm i couldn't sleep cuz i had burned my tongue..

and it was six, not five..at five i was snoring away..

and most things come to me spontaneously 😉 such as spending money on trivial things etc.
 
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I'm seeing people with years of stellar experience get offered "buyouts", IOW, "here's a years' pay, now bug off!". Of course, most lay-off-ees aren't as lucky. Izzy, I hope your husband doesn't get shown the door like too many people already have been.

But what I want to know is why no one in government, on the news, etc. wants to call the current depression a depression, or why no one sought to tar and feather Mr. Limbaugh when he said he wanted Mr. Obama's economic recovery agenda to fail.
 
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hmm i couldn't sleep cuz i had burned my tongue..

and it was six, not five..at five i was snoring away..

and most things come to me spontaneously 😉 such as spending money on trivial things etc.

How do you burn your tongue in your sleep? :blink

:stickout
 
well a new bill is in the process of being passed that says that we will no longer pay our medical bills but the government will through our taxes.So I am hoping it will pass.We will have to pay slightly higher taxes but it is worth it!
 
It's something that can take years,but hopefully won't. I've had several of my friends get laid off and now they were called back or have new jobs. It will get better gradually. No need to burn your insomniac tongue.
 
It's something that can take years,but hopefully won't. I've had several of my friends get laid off and now they were called back or have new jobs. It will get better gradually. No need to burn your insomniac tongue.

i didn't burn my tongue in my sleep.. :31: the burning woke me up..and i hope it doesn't take years but o well..

QueenBee lol..
 
Just hang in there til '10, gang...

...and I predict you'll see America return almost completely to the level of prosperity and economic liveliness that dominated most of the 90's under the Clinton administration. Luckilly for us here in the U.S., newly-elected President Obama actually CARES about people other than the absurdly wealthy, and his programs and platform indicate as much and closely mirror many of Clinton's. AND, since the Democrats control the House and Senate and likely will into the forseeable future, many, if not all, of Obama's proposals will pass through. This will ultimately mean that many new jobs will be created, likely by the hundreds of thousands, most especially since small and mid-sized business will once more be able to compete, and even flourish, because of the tax relief Obama's plans will offer them. His stimulus program has both the short-term (checks for individuals and couples) AND the long-term in mind, and he'll also do a lot to curb the rampant haphazard loaning tendencies that were so prevelant in many financial corporations during most of this past decade. Layoffs for many this calendar year will be likely, though, but Obama's already warned us that things will get worse before they improve and, with any luck, anyone unfortunate enough to be laid off or bought out (as I was myself back in '05) will soon find financial prominence in another field or line of work once the American, as well as the world's, economy rights itself. You'll be in my prayers, Izzy. 🙂
 
You will be in my prayers also Izzy,there is a saying as one door closes another opens,it will all come full circle in the end, over the years i have been layed off a good few times,currently i'am being put into a position i'am not qualified to handle, just to be pushed out of a firm i helped establish, avoiding all the compensation claims.its happened to most people in our age group,but at least we got qualified and trained.God bless you and David, all the best.
 
Excellent job, President Obama. Let's fix the problem of too much debt by TAKIING ON MORE DEBT! Here, take this shovel, and dig more dirt to get out of the pit you are in...

Mari, I hate to break this to you, but my taxes should not be paying your medical bills. Pay your own! It makes me so LIVID to hear the current generation acting like the world and the federal government owes them a living and should pay for everything for them. BE AN ADULT! TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN LIFE! I hate to come down hard like that, but it's a fact of life. No one seems to want to be responsible for themselves. Neither Obama, the House, the Senate, the Democrats, nor the Republicans should be your "sugar daddy." Don't fall into that mental trap. Everyone can succeed if they follow the advice of Thomas Edison: "The reason most people miss out on Opportunity is because it often comes dressed in overalls and looks like Work."

Thank God my family has been saving and paying all our debt off. At least when the REAL depression, hits, we'll be ready. The reason conservatives like Rush and myself want the plan to fail is because it is wrong for the country long term. Trust me, it would be nice if it would, but it is doomed to failuer. Bush 43 and Obama will have the legacy of learning that you can't spend yourself out of debt. His planned tax hike is a smokescreen. Soaking 'the rich' sounds so wonderful to those of lower income brackets, but it's a red herring. It won't raise diddly toward paying for all this spending, and will result in MORE layoffs, since that money that COULD have gone for salaries now has to go in taxes.

So, guess where the tax hikes will have to come from to pay for this. Yup, you guessed it, it will be US! Historically, that's where the money is. I don't believe he is even serious about this 'middle class tax cut.' Clinton made the same promise, and instead tried to pass retroactive tax hikes.

If Obama is TRULY serious about improving the economy, then either cut or do away with the capital gains tax. That will free much more money into investment and business recovery.

The best plan, Izzy, is to lay money aside into an emergency fund, the goal being 3-6 months worth of your expenses (Dave Ramsey Baby Step #3). That will gain you time for if he is laid off or bought off to be able to look for new employment without fear or hassle. That's what we are working toward.
 
I agree with your comments Hawk, we have people who never go to work and the rest of us have to pay.sometimes they come from abroad and burden our welfare system.(i'am talking uk)
But to be fair to Mari, its ok telling people to take care of their own lives, if they are trained, have skill, are qualified,or can get cash to start up a firm and do somthing, if none of these things apply and they can't get a job,even a basic unskilled job then they are stuck.
 
well a new bill is in the process of being passed that says that we will no longer pay our medical bills but the government will through our taxes.So I am hoping it will pass.We will have to pay slightly higher taxes but it is worth it!

Single-payer health care? No way! Where'd you hear about this?
 
It's time for some brainpower here. First off, the Obama health care plan does NOT, repeat, does NOT pay your bills.

http://www.thehealthcareblog.com/the_health_care_blog/2008/03/a-detailed-anal.html

The individual he's nominated in charge of healthcare, Kathleen Sebelius is damn sharp, but I can assure you, none of them have spoken of "paying your bills for you". A little reading can go a long way toward learning.

Re: Hawk's concerns...

WE STILL GONE PAY LESS THAN PEOPLE IN DA EUROPE COUNTRYS.

Yes, that's right. We'll still be doing better than the rest of the Earth. Shit.

Obama's also talking about putting tarriffs on telcos' use of the airwaves.

If that's not going to bring about the end of western fucking civilization, I don't know what will. (That was sarcasm, tyvm)
 
I think it will be a good plan from what I hear you will not have to pay to see the doctor and everyone will have insurance and doctors will be paid like teachers and police.Some people cannot afford to get health insurance for different reasons and I think everyone has the right to get the medical attention they need and if that means paying a little higher on taxes so everyone can get help when they need it,then I am all for it.
 
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