I'd have given anything to have been in the room when this happened...

[PainTrain]

This pussy only did this because there wasn't a man around... I'd give anything to have been in that room when this happened. I get chills down my spine just watching it.

 

[chicago]

Wow, that made me cry it pissed me off so much.

Seeing that makes me want to rip that guy's head off.

 

[german]

A 15 year old girl and plus it was her father wow I wish I was there. Good luck for when he leaves his house, he will get what he deserves.

Kust

 

[PainTrain]

the more i watch it, the more i get pissed off..

id fucken break his neck

 

[slap'n'ticklee]

What an absolute bastard and was that her Mother sitting there not doing anything, she is a bitch how the hell can she watch on and not do anything I would have pulled him of her!

 

[MasterPaladin]

I was a NYCPD for 20 years and that and wife beating was my pet peave sorry I can't elaborate on it but something like that makes me wish I was there.

you can beat them try me %$$#% &^%%$

 

[Leo tickles]

Reminds me of my childhood, but looking back I'm glad it happened. I wouldn't be who I am today without it. Wrong as it may be, it did more good than bad. I know, hard to understand.

 

[ViperGTS]

I agree with the general sentiment, that the father in this video would catch a severe beatdown from myself or any of us had this been done in our presence.

But what you have to understand (to play devil's advocate here) is that this kind of behaviour is more deeply seeded than most of you might think. It's not that the father just made the wrong decision, it's that, for some reason, in his mind, he was taught to think that the appropriate response to his daughter using the word "bullcrap" towards him is to beat her silly. What he's been taught (he probably was beaten as a child, or his siblings were [if he had any]) is to beat his kids for misbehaviour, and that's something that needs to be professionally worked out, not physically beaten out of him.

I was taught the same thing. However, I also have morals, and know the difference between right and wrong (as this fellow apparently does not). I'm convinced that when I have children, I'll never "beat" them, in the sense of what this father is doing to his daughter, but I do believe in "spare the rod, spoil the child."

Reminds me of my childhood, but looking back I'm glad it happened. I wouldn't be who I am today without it. Wrong as it may be, it did more good than bad. I know, hard to understand.

No no, you make perfect sense. I don't regret being beaten as a kid (as much as the kids from elementary school would like me to think otherwise). It builds character.

Hey, did anyone else notice, the daughter's not wearing shoes? 😀 Yeah yeah, she's 15, shut up, I'm trying to be funny.

 

[Leo tickles]

Well, in my opinion doesn't make a character, but gives you a meaning in life. Simple. Find out why? If you were a spoiled brbat you have no motive to do anything, you don't care about life and just live it. When your life is hard, it gives you a reason to find out why. Anyways, I'm ranting on and on, this should be discussed in private anyways. 🙁 Sorry for the rant.

 

[kis123]

What an absolute bastard and was that her Mother sitting there not doing anything, she is a bitch how the hell can she watch on and not do anything I would have pulled him of her!

Unfortunately, a lot of women watch while the abuse takes place. They've been conditioned to do so after being sufficently abused themselves. It turns into a "survival of the fittest" environment after awhile. That's how the abuser gets the run of the house, one victim at a time.

I'm certainly not giving her an excuse because I would've laid my life on the line the instant that SOB hit my kid! I would've killed him and used him as food for my cats!

 

[isabeau]

after reading the posts, i won't click on the link. i won't watch a father beating his child. i was whipped as a child, but never beaten. but if the mother just stood by and allowed that to happen, well shame on her.

 

[kis123]

Well, in my opinion doesn't make a character, but gives you a meaning in life. Simple. Find out why? If you were a spoiled brbat you have no motive to do anything, you don't care about life and just live it. When your life is hard, it gives you a reason to find out why. Anyways, I'm ranting on and on, this should be discussed in private anyways. 🙁 Sorry for the rant.

I certainly suscribe to the "spare the rod and spoil the child theory." My children are 16 and 20 and neither of them will tell you they were abused or neglected. They didn't live a perfect childhood, but they damn sure lived better than I did!

However there is a fine line between discipline for wrong and beating for the hell of it! There is such a thing as abuse and it doesn't make a person better, it just usually just makes them a better abuser of either themselves or others. Rarely does the abused person end up better without help.

There's a balance between the "spoiled brat" and the "abused child." It is up to the parent to find the difference so they can raise a family prepared for adulthood and the world in front of them.

 

[kis123]

after reading the posts, i won't click on the link. i won't watch a father beating his child. i was whipped as a child, but never beaten. but if the mother just stood by and allowed that to happen, well shame on her.

She didn't stand by Izzy-she sat about 6 inches away and watched that man leap off the couch and beat the crap out of the kid. That I would not have tolerated-I would've taken my chances and got my behind beat before I would've watched. Besides, he's gotta' sleep sometime, doesn't he???

 

[Leo tickles]

I certainly suscribe to the "spare the rod and spoil the child theory." My children are 16 and 20 and neither of them will tell you they were abused or neglected. They didn't live a perfect childhood, but they damn sure lived better than I did!

However there is a fine line between discipline for wrong and beating for the hell of it! There is such a thing as abuse and it doesn't make a person better, it just usually just makes them a better abuser of either themselves or others. Rarely does the abused person end up better without help.

There's a balance between the "spoiled brat" and the "abused child." It is up to the parent to find the difference so they can raise a family prepared for adulthood and the world in front of them.

I agree that there is a fine line. But not all can control what's going on, and when that line is crossed, you have to make the best of it. Out of the many people I talked to from this forum, not one has seen the diffrence between sitting at home and doing nothing, and sitting at home and doing everything. Not meant as an insult to anyone, just saying. Some things you can't control, and at that point, you have to ask yourself how you want that thing to affect you, rather than blaming it on the person/object and feeling helpless.

 

[kis123]

I agree that there is a fine line. But not all can control what's going on, and when that line is crossed, you have to make the best of it. Out of the many people I talked to from this forum, not one has seen the diffrence between sitting at home and doing nothing, and sitting at home and doing everything. Not meant as an insult to anyone, just saying. Some things you can't control, and at that point, you have to ask yourself how you want that thing to affect you, rather than blaming it on the person/object and feeling helpless.

I couldn't agree more! It's a case of learning from mistakes (yours or someone elses) and making the best from a bad upbringing. You can sit, wallow and blame others for your future, or put your adulthood in your hands and find a life of your own.

Sounds like your well on your way and I wish you the continued best. 😎

 

[Leo tickles]

Thank you for the kind words, it really does mean alot. I hope you nothing but happiness in the future as well! Thanks again.

 

[MrMacphisto]

I think what disturbs me more is what O'Reilly brought up. I'm hoping that ABC handed that video evidence over to authorities as soon as possible, so that asshole can be tried and jailed.

 

[ViperGTS]

Although the father could be tried for and convicted of abuse/domestic violence, the point O'Reilly made was that the girl is no longer in the same household since she now lives with her grandparents and she's no longer in danger.

 

[AffectionateDan]

It's quite simple, really...

...he needs to die. Turds like that need to get fed feet first into a wood chipper. Slowly.

 

[Redmage]

It seems clear that this fellow just doesn't realize the magnitude of what he's doing. Bear in mind, he did that knowing full well that a video camera from ABC News was recording every moment of it for a national broadcast.

Obviously he either thought no one seeing that would consider it out of the ordinary, or he just didn't care. Either way, I think that "giving him a beatdown" probably wouldn't help. Chances are, a few too many beatdowns helped him get to this point in the first place.

 

[locker669]

I saw some of the ABC news show that this was originally on. It had something to do with stepfamilies and problem kids. The mother in the video is a stepmother.

Fair and Balanced Bill only showed a small part of the video. There was a lot of buildup from everyone to get to that point, not to defend the guy.

 

[PainTrain]

National Guard Reserve and Iraq....


oooooo ... im shakin' over here.



Kill him to put him down? Sounds good to me.


I've tried to think about this rationally, but it's difficult... Everytime I see the vid it just makes me wanna kill the guy, hehe.

Ah well, it's good to see that it was taken care of... kinda.

 

[Mimi]

I can't and won't watch the video. There are two things that would drive me to earnestly cause harm to another human, and they are child abuse and animal abuse. There is NEVER a reason for EITHER, and both should carry the stiffest penalties possible.

I grew up with corporal punishment in my house. I don't even want to try to come up with an estimate of how many times I was whipped, punched, thrown, slapped, or my favorite, had an outdoor driveway/sidewalk ice chopper lunged at my head.

Because of my own personal upbringing, I had made the decision that I would not, EVER, under any circumstances, raise a hand to my children when I had them. Lazzy was abused himself as a child and made the same vow I had when it came to his kids, too. Between us we have 4 kids, who have never known the pain associated with a parent that physically hurts their child. And they are four of the most well behaved, respectful, generous, and caring kids you could ever meet. Hitting a child is NEVER necessary if you utilize patience, mutual respect, and and unconditional love.

Mimi

 

[Goodieluver]

So the authorities say she wasnt in danger cuz she didnt live there, yet the concept of her bein attacked is not addressed.

Times like these i wish bruce willis came walkin in the room with a katana

 

[Redmage]

So the authorities say she wasnt in danger cuz she didnt live there, yet the concept of her bein attacked is not addressed.

Basically what that means is that the authorities reviewed the tape and decided that what the man did probably did not rise to the level of prosecutable child abuse (if the teen wasn't physically injured it would be hard to make such a charge stick), but that it WAS bad enough that Child Protective Services might seek to remove her from that home. Since she was already out of the home, the matter was dropped.

The system can make very peculiar and difficult decisions when it comes to situations like this involving an older child. I got involved personally in such a case when it came to light that a couple I knew were sexually abusing their 14 year old daughter. I made the call to CPS myself, and the matter was investigated and brought before a judge. However the girl told the judge that if she was placed in foster care she would run away at the first opportunity.

Don't ask me why, because I don't understand it either.

So, faced with the choice of seeing the girl end up on the streets, the judge chose instead to order the family into counseling and to have CPS check back on them at intervals. I lost touch with them after that, so I don't know how much good it did ultimately. I was very angry at the time but in retrospect I can see that the judge didn't have any really good options at that point.