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I'm sick of it, really.

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In the past several months, I have posted several stories that I considered to be of at least mediocre quality.

The incredible LACK of response to all of them has led me to believe otherwise.

Fine. I just won't post anymore stories. Sorry to have wasted your time with them.
 
Don't be discouraged...take a look at the stories forum and look at those that have over 1000 views with only one or two responses. Not very many give input unfortunately.

How many stories have you read there yourself without posting a response? It doesnt mean you didnt like them. It just means you didnt have anything to say at the time.

😉

Ray
 
I believe that I have responded to only a couple of your stories ("Ture Incident at a Private Girls School" and "Ticklish Roommate" are the approximate titles), but I have read at least 15 of them, including the "Linda's Revenge" series. They are far better than mediocre, too.

Venray is right, be glad when a story gets over 1000 views, it means that people are reading it, even if they don't post a response.

For the record, "The Session" has an enormous number of views (over 30,000), and only two responses, one from me, and one from Mistress Zara, who is the star of the story. Nobody else responded, but I'm happy that it has been read so much.

Link: http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12717
 
Speaking from experience here...you'll seldom get very much feedback to your stories at all. The key is: don't write for others, write for YOURSELF first.
 
Oh do I know how that feels....

If it helps any I've gone through this a couple of times myself, the last being when something I worked pretty much non-stop on for two weeks (and is about the ONLY thing I've written here that I'm 100% happy with - http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=38266&perpage=15&pagenumber=1) proved as popular as a fart in a spacesuit (with a couple of exceptions and thanks to them). I've pretty much stopped writing myself as I found my interests going more towards actual story telling while most on here, quite frankly, want something to help practice the five knuckle shuffle. Which is fair enough, just not something I want to write at the moment. I do think though that it wouldn't KILL people to leave a brief thank you note.

All I can say is, deep breath, step away for a while and see if the urge to write comes back.
 
nail...head... hammer.... WHACK!

Daumantas said:
Speaking from experience here...you'll seldom get very much feedback to your stories at all. The key is: don't write for others, write for YOURSELF first.

Hitting the proverbial nail on the head there. Excellent comment Daumantas. If you write for yourself, you'll have an avenue of expression. If you write seeking the adulations of others, you may as well make cave drawings. You'll receive a comment here and there, sometimes many, mostly few.

Then look on the flip side - if everyone commented on every story, the story section would be a massive area with 99% of the posts saying "great story" or something similar.
 
Actually, I brought this issue up recently, except it was for my art. However the concept is the same.

Listen to everyone here Viper, what they say is true. I for example know that hundreds, perhaps thousands of people look at my artwork all the time. Now, the responses are no where near as balanced as the views. In some cases, I know people are intentionally ignoring me, but aside from those individuals I feel good because I at least know that people are watching me and do appriciate what I do, even if they don't always say it in so many words.

No one wants to look like a kiss-ass, but its also that perhaps they feel nothing need be said. Or maybe they are too lazy to talk to you. There are several excuses we could think of, but we musn't ponder on them for too long, even if they might be true.

Just be happy in knowing you are doing something that hopefully makes you happy. I almost had a burn out a year ago. Why? Because I was putting everyone before myself and was working out of a sense of obligation when in fact I've never owed this site anything and still don't. It was request after request after request and I allowed myself to become a doormat for the sake of attention. That was foolish of me. I was niave. I thought the more responses I got the more it would validate my being here and the more it would show me people liked me. Needless to say, its not like that anymore, and in my own way I get that respect and recognition by simply doing as I like while contributing with requests and such.

But I've been around long enough to know what works and what doesn't and what you can expect from this site and these members inparticular.

If you are looking for respect and recognition, you already have it. There is at least one person that respects you and appriciates what you are doing. The real number, I'd imagine, is far greater than that, just as it is for the people that like my art.

The truth is Viper, you will never know and will never be able to grasp just how many people DO like you and what you have to offer.

I know the silence can hurt, but it only hurts as much as you let it. Don't become discouraged, and do this because you WANT to do this, and because it makes you happy. The rest will follow. It did for me. 🙂


EDIT: Although I would be lying if I said not getting any responses from the people I usually do isn't curious or doesn't make me anxious sometimes. I don't know whether they are upset with me or they simply didn't like the picture enough to comment on it. I don't know whats going on in their heads because they aren't saying anything. Its really a jam to be in, since you don't know what to think when stuff like this happens. Ultimately though, you shouldn't care so much. Sure, it is a reward for a job well done to get such responses, but if they weren't genuine to begin with, it was probably better off that you didn't get them. This would apply to anyone, not just your friends.

I know I for one would want people to be honest with me and comment only if they really mean what they are saying. Empty words mean nothing to me, how can they? Thats why I push for critiques. Its a way of me knowing and for people whom I critique of knowing I care enough to say something beyond the "good work" or "keep it up".

I go out of my way, and hopefully people will start going out of their way for me and for you also. I'd like to think we could benefit from the same interaction and exchange. But thats art.

Stories are slightly different. But still, if your stories made an impression on people, they should say something sometimes, just to let you know how they feel. Theres no obligation involved, but it is a way of letting you know you are cared about. Everyone wants acceptance, to belong, and I hope whatever doubt you are going through is laid to rest in one way or another, Viper.

(Sorry for the long post, but its one of those subjects near and dear to me.)
 
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I agree with this thread and what people said about it. I dont write stories as often as I used to, but when I was writing my baseball stories, I would often get no responses or get flamed about them, to try and intimidate me into not writing them. It didnt work, because I wont be intimidated. I wrote because I enjoyed writing them for myself, and didnt let negative feedback or no responses stop me, so if you enjoy it, write for yourself. This way, you'll know that you are doing what you want to do, and not let others actions influence you.

Mitch
 
Amen Mitchell. What you said reminds me of myself.

I'm glad to actually see confirmation that I'm not the only one that feels that way. 🙂
 
No One Is Obligated..

To reply to your stories. How selfish.

Tron
 
Did he ever say that anyone was? He seems frustrated to me, and its very understandable. Selfish is the last thing he is being, being that he's sharing his stories to begin with. He asks for nothing more than some feedback, and gets legitimately frustrated that not a single person has replied, and that makes him selfish?
 
There's nothing selfish about wanting feedback. In fact, feedback is vital to a writer or artist in that it helps a great deal. Don';t worry about getting little feedback. I've gotten more then 7000 (i think, don't quote me on it, it was in the thousands at any rate) views for a story and only 21 replies. thats's not a whole lot if you think about it. Write for yourself, thats the best idea. it's like i say to some of the other people who write and do art. When you stop having fun, whats the point of it?
 
True, but Cosmo, isn't there a part of you thats not fully convinced of that? A part that feels wounded and hurt?
 
See, this is the problem I have with this stuff. Every time I say I feel a certain way about something, 80% or the people that respond to me say I am wrong for feeling that way, I'm wrong for having that idea, I'm wrong for thinking a certain way. Wtf.

I don't write these all for myself. I write these half for me and half for you people. 1) I want to express my fantasies and ideas and get them off of my chest, and 2) I want you all to benefit from these fantasies because I know that you all enjoy the same types of things. I only one of the objectives is achieved, then to hell with it. It's not worth it, in my opinion.
 
For me, some 80-90% of what you see here are requests and are done for you guys. They weren't on the original list of things to do. This is of course not saying that I don't enjoy it, because I do. If I didn't, what more would I be than an endentured servant?

I'm beholden to no one and no rule. I can rejoice in that by drawing whatever I want. Tickling and feet are included in that sometimes. And, requests and suggestions really, really help, especially when I don't know what to draw next for you guys or I'm running low on ideas. This is only ever a problem for the genre of tickling and such, as it is very limiting and isn't as broad as any type of art that might be considered 'general'.

Feedback, replies, and even praise are always a good thing too. I've said it before, they are the food and drink for an artist or author, professional or amateur. Art, poetry and stories were not meant to be kept to one's self. They were meant to be shared and for an experience to be had in some way, however small or large that may be.

So when no one says anything, its like holding your own birthday party or some meaningful event, and no one showing up. I don't think anyone who is not an artist, poet or author can or does understand just how deeply this silence can hurt us. It can turn positive people into negative people, it can make friendly and proper people snide and sarcastic, and it can instill doubt and uncertainty where once there was hope.

And for anyone to say that you shouldn't let it get to you really doesn't know how deep things can get. This isn't to say we have low self-esteems. I myself have a rather high self-esteem and I'm proud of myself.

Ultimately, while no one is obligated to amuse us, thank us, or appriciate us, this is supposed to be a community and alot of the time or all of the time we are doing what we are doing for you. And how is it a community when no one acknowledges that at times? How is there appriciation in silence? Art, stories, and poetry are very tangible things. Silence is not. We can't assume you mean well. Theres a lack of communication here, and it is responsible for the breakdown and is what honestly leads to issues like this.

Retrospectively, the community itself is built on our backs. Without us, you are nothing, or not nearly as much and most of what you want to see would go unfulfilled. Think about our contributions and how steadfast and true we are, think about THAT before you call US selfish. Look at yourselves, the ones who dine on our toil, our fruits which you harvest. If anyone is selfish, it is you. You don't care who or what as long as your appetites are wet and your guts are filled. Just remember whose feeding you next time you decide to pay us no mind or recognition. Realize we offer our gifts with love, not with contempt. The least you could do is acknowledge we exist. Because the media sure as hell isn't creating itself.
 
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I take that as a compliment. I'm pretty young to be talking this way, and I didn't learn it from anyone or anywhere. It just comes naturally to me.
 
Thanks alot.

I probably seem really annoying to some people. Theres people here and everywhere twice my age and they speak as if they're a child. Not that I'm chiding them. My problem is in saying all that I'm thinking at once. I sometimes have a hard time condensing it into short bursts. I always feel the need to let it all out at the same time. If don't, I feel ancy about it and restless and won't feel better about it until I've said it all and let it all out. So rather than make multiple posts and risk changing how I feel or changing the meaning of what I am trying to say, I say it all in one post while its fresh in my mind and its as near to perfect quality as the original thought.

I know its asking alot to read all of it all the time, but for those that do, you have my thanks and appriciation. ^__^
 
yes, I find that it's alot easier to get it all out at once, too. Trouble is, I am not as good with words as you are, friend.
 
Don't sell yourself short. The fact you brought this up like I have before you, shows me you have a special kind of courage.

Its not so much the power of your words, the manner of your speech, or the conviction that you bring with them that matters entirely, its that you are being honest in the moment and are speaking your heart in an outright and honest way. If you can do that, then it is just as potent and charismatic as anything a sophisticated person might say.

You're doing just fine, Viper, my friend. ^__^


EDIT: Well, I'm off to bed. See you all later. ^^
 
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