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It's a sin?

I believe the concept of 'sin' is a concept created by the church to guilt people into giving to the church, in exchange for 'forgiveness'.

If, as the Bible claims, we are created in the image of a loving and merciful God, why would this God instill anything in us that he did not like?

I like this..but then you have to think of serial killers..did God instill that urge into them? of course this is a far cry from tickling, i just thought i'd throw it out there.
 
aww Likeasong..i stated what i myself believe..i in no way push it on others..so go ahead..dissect away..and ditto on the love.

Nobody ever wants me to dissect what they believe. 😉 It seems as though whatever I say on the subject of religion is purely argumentative, and unconstructive. When other people repeat what I say, they get encouraged. Would anybody care to explain that prejudice?
 
I like this..but then you have to think of serial killers..did God instill that urge into them? of course this is a far cry from tickling, i just thought i'd throw it out there.

I recall what I learned as a teen-ager: There is no sin. There is no good. There is no evil. There is only universal balance. What some may call 'good' others may call 'evil'. I know my opinion is not a popular one, especially amongst the more 'conservative' crowd, but I really believe that what we call 'Good' or 'Evil' are just personal perspectives.

People are, as they are and will act accordingly

After all, when we leave this world, do we not go back to the same pool of essence from which we came?

Not to sound too geeky, but Obi-Wan Kenobi said it best: Truth is a point of view
 
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I recall what I learned as a teen-ager: There is no sin. There is no good. There is no evil. There is only universal balance. What some may call 'good' others may call 'evil'. I know my opinion is not a popular one, especially amongst the more 'conservative' crowd, but I really believe that what we call 'Good' or 'Evil' are just personal perspectives.

People are, as they are and will act accordingly

After all, when we leave this world, do we not go back to the same pool of essence from which we came?

Not to sound too geeky, but Obi-Wan Kenobi said it best: Truth is a point of view

I think there is truth to what you say, which I mentioned earlier in terms of black widow spiders and diseases. Naturally I don't agree with everything you said though. But I'm not actively out to convert you either, so I won't preach at you, especially because that would probably be pretty ineffective.
 
Nobody ever wants me to dissect what they believe. 😉 It seems as though whatever I say on the subject of religion is purely argumentative, and unconstructive. When other people repeat what I say, they get encouraged. Would anybody care to explain that prejudice?

I don't think I was repeating what you said, but more to the point, maybe they just interpreted your post as having a tone not conducive to polite discourse.
 
I think there is truth to what you say, which I mentioned earlier in terms of black widow spiders and diseases. Naturally I don't agree with everything you said though. But I'm not actively out to convert you either, so I won't preach at you, especially because that would probably be pretty ineffective.

That's fine, I respect everybody as individuals and respect their opinions. And I thank you for not trying to be 'preachy'.

I find that drives more people away from Christians, than anything else.
 
I like this..but then you have to think of serial killers..did God instill that urge into them? of course this is a far cry from tickling, i just thought i'd throw it out there.
It is said, "We are all the worst of sinners and the greatest of saints" So in a Crazy esoteric way "God" sets the wheels in motion.
 
He didn't.

That's true. I think the reason we have the power of indipendant thought and opinions in the first place is because when God created us, He wanted us to be human, not a bunch of brain dead robots with no free will. Maybe I'm wrong but that's what I think.
 
I know this is probably an old/forgotten subject in this thread but I will jump to the defence of Hazelf and say that she's trying to state that she is 'Agnostic' (and by that I mean the widely believed but possibly incorrect definition of the term... someone once told me that Agnostic didn't mean 'someone who's not sure whether there is or isn't a God' but I can't quite remember what they said it meant. I just took his word for it because he was a strong Christian believer and well known for doing his research into both sides of the 'Is there a God?' debate).

Anyway, she's both open minded and indecisive about her believes in the sense that she's uncertain/easily influenced with her beliefs but she is also open to new ideas and concepts. 🙂

Anyway, continue. Again. 😛
 
I know this is probably an old/forgotten subject in this thread but I will jump to the defence of Hazelf and say that she's trying to state that she is 'Agnostic' (and by that I mean the widely believed but possibly incorrect definition of the term... someone once told me that Agnostic didn't mean 'someone who's not sure whether there is or isn't a God' but I can't quite remember what they said it meant. I just took his word for it because he was a strong Christian believer and well known for doing his research into both sides of the 'Is there a God?' debate).

Anyway, she's both open minded and indecisive about her believes in the sense that she's uncertain/easily influenced with her beliefs but she is also open to new ideas and concepts. 🙂

Anyway, continue. Again. 😛

Agnostics believe there MAY be a higher power, but want physical and scientific proof, beyond being told 'But the Bible said so'

Athiests don't believe in any kind of surpreme being at all, regardless.
 
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Yeah, I'm clear on the Atheist definition. I am one myself. 😛

I was just clarifying what I meant by Agnostic, in case there were others out there who view it in the same way my Christian friend does. 😛
 
All right, if that's the case, since I believe hazel did say something about English not being her native tongue, then it 'may' but be a situation of a misnomer. There's a LOT of words in the english language. 😉 :smilielol5:

(But then again, maybe it 'isn't' that case, where I feel it would be more worthy to try to correct her knowledge of the English language and her beliefs and reasonings behind 'why')
 
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The way I see it, it's not really a sin unless it consumes you to the point where you go up to random people in a public place and uh... be creepy about it. I hear stories of, for example, some douche breaking into a woman's home and sucking her toes. Ugh. Come on, fellas...
 
Nobody ever wants me to dissect what they believe. 😉 It seems as though whatever I say on the subject of religion is purely argumentative, and unconstructive. When other people repeat what I say, they get encouraged. Would anybody care to explain that prejudice?

hmm i've never said no to you dissecting anything i say..you didn't respond to my posts so how could i refuse or not..
 
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