Keys to a franchise

[punkrockergirl]

if you were a coach and you got the option to take over any team... as is right now who would it be, i would ofcourse go with the steelers out of love for them.. and because they have a franchise qb and a great d.. but if i was being unbiased give me the falcons.. great young qb,rb,and wr.. along with a decent veteran d

 

[maniactickler]

The Patriots. they are a class act, and all team players.

 

[Skinfan87]

I would wanna take the keys to my own Redskins, only to show that this team can scout, and actually use high draft picks on Linemen on either side.

 

[Cy/MiG]

My homerism and black and gold blood would force me to take the Steelers.

If I removed bias...

I'd want to own/coach the 49ers or Vikings.

Because both teams are only a QB away from serious contention.

And Matt Cassell is a coming FA...

 

[slacker2114]

Of course I'd want to take the Steelers.

But without a favorite involved, I would take the Detroit Lions. That's right, I said it. Why? Because I couldn't do any worse than the fucktards they have in charge now.

 

[fantastic8]

Couple of teams I would look at:

Steelers: Yeah I am a little biased, but they scout well and always know how to plug the holes in the team. They are also the most stable franchise in all of proffesional sports when it comes to coaching as well so. Combine that with the second largest fanbase in the NFL and you got a winner.

Dolphins: Another traditional power that gets this spot because of Bill Parcels running the show. I would definetly retain him as my GM since everything he touches turns to gold. They are foolish for even thinking aobut getting rid of him.

Falcons: Matt Ryan and Micahel Turner....nuff said

Ravens: Yes I hate them, but they alwasy have a good defense and they look like they have finally found a good QB.\

 

[punkrockergirl]

Couple of teams I would look at:

Steelers: Yeah I am a little biased, but they scout well and always know how to plug the holes in the team. They are also the most stable franchise in all of proffesional sports when it comes to coaching as well so. Combine that with the second largest fanbase in the NFL and you got a winner.

Dolphins: Another traditional power that gets this spot because of Bill Parcels running the show. I would definetly retain him as my GM since everything he touches turns to gold. They are foolish for even thinking aobut getting rid of him.

Falcons: Matt Ryan and Micahel Turner....nuff said

Ravens: Yes I hate them, but they alwasy have a good defense and they look like they have finally found a good QB.\

not quiet he hasnt won a superbowl in 15 years ish.. and he failed in dallas.. he only fixes things once in awhile not all the time.. but he has done an ok job with the dolphins. i give more cred to pennington and the coaching staff

 

[fantastic8]

Dallas had missed the playoffs something like 3 out of 4 years prior to him arriving. True they still haven't won a playoff game even with his help, but thats more due to Jerry Jones not knowing when to keep his noes out of it then Parcels.

 

[punkrockergirl]

still i wouldnt say everything parcells touches turns to gold... he has only has had sucess with one team.. if you count these dolphins 2

 

[Tickle Fiend]

Parcells has completely turned around every team he's gone to. That's exactly why so many teams are hoping he leaves Miami so they can gain his services. He's taken below-average teams and turned them into competing teams. He's succeeded everywhere he's been.

Also, the Dolphins don't want to get rid of him. He has the option of leaving since Miami is changing its ownership. They don't want him to leave.

 

[punkrockergirl]

Parcells has completely turned around every team he's gone to. That's exactly why so many teams are hoping he leaves Miami so they can gain his services. He's taken below-average teams and turned them into competing teams. He's succeeded everywhere he's been.

Also, the Dolphins don't want to get rid of him. He has the option of leaving since Miami is changing its ownership. They don't want him to leaveFONT]

no he hasnt... he had success in one place.. you should know that better than anyone look what he did in dallas.... nada.. and hes going to opt out of the deal in miami so he gets his 9 mil and i cant blame him

 

[Tickle Fiend]

Parcells was the head coach of the Giants for 8 seasons.

Parcells spent four seasons with the Patriots. They went 2-14 the year before he arrived. They made the playoffs during his second season there and they went to the Super Bowl a few seasons after that.

Then came the Jets. 1-15 before Parcells came. 9-7 during his first season. 12-4 his second season, losing in the conference championship.

And finally, America's Team. Three consecutive 5-11 seasons before the Tuna came. 10-6 his first season in Dallas. Two playoff appearances during his tenure, barely missing out on a third.

You see, success isn't always measured the same. He turned lousy teams into very good teams. Teams that hadn't competed for anything in years were competing for the NFL's biggest prize. I'm sure if Parcells would've stayed in those places longer he would've had the opportunity to win a Super Bowl. Parcells has been Mr. Fix-It since he left the Giants. He helps franchises become competitors and leaves. He'll leave Miami a success, no matter what happens to the Dolphins during the playoffs.

 

[slacker2114]

I gotta back the Fiend on this one. Parcells failure in Dallas, if you can call it that stems from one thing: Jerry Jones. Jones doesn't want a head coach, he wants a puppet on the sidelines that will run Jones' team the way HE wants it done. Had Jones left Parcells alone and let him work his magic, Dallas would have done much better.

 

[punkrockergirl]

but success in the nfl is measured by superbowl wins.. and parcells hasnt won one in 15 years.. all i was saying is everything he touches doesnt turn to gold.. he is alright but not the god he is hailed as.. give me ozzie newsome or scott pioli over parcells any day

 

[Dave2112]

I'd have to take the Vikes, and not just because I bleed purple and gold. Like another noted, they're a decent QB away from a serious run or two. If I were to take over this team, I'd lobby heavily for Matt Cassell. Also, my first pick in the draft would be a standout WR. We've got a decent posession receiver, but no real deep threat.

I'd also institute a more West-Coast offense to the Vikes. They're built for it, as they are now.

Another team I'd be interested in taking over would be New Orleans. Always just that close to being really good. Probably a player or two away from serious contention.

 

[punkrockergirl]

I'd have to take the Vikes, and not just because I bleed purple and gold. Like another noted, they're a decent QB away from a serious run or two. If I were to take over this team, I'd lobby heavily for Matt Cassell. Also, my first pick in the draft would be a standout WR. We've got a decent posession receiver, but no real deep threat.

I'd also institute a more West-Coast offense to the Vikes. They're built for it, as they are now.
Another team I'd be interested in taking over would be New Orleans. Always just that close to being really good. Probably a player or two away from serious contention.

What? in what way are they built for a west coast offense?.. they have 2 great running backs... a run block line.. no quarterback.. and sub-par recievers that sounds pretty anit-west coast to me *facepalm*

 

[Tickle Fiend]

Parcells could only control what happened when he was there. What's done to what he built once he leaves is not his fault. And if he only gives himself three-or-four seasons to win a Super Bowl after taking over a team that was the worst in the league, then his chances of actually winning one are much slimmer.

 

[fantastic8]

Punk: Maybe for the Cowboys success is measured in Super Bowls, but there is a good half of the league that has trouble even making the playoffs consistently.

 

[Cy/MiG]

While it is true that 'success is measured by super bowl rings', only one team can win the ring each year.

Hell, it took Bill Cowher 14/15 years to win one.

Holmgren only ever won one in like 20 years.

Shanahan hasn't won one in 10 years and just got fired for it.

Parcells turned around every franchise he ever took over (though the Jets blew kinda blew it shortly after he left).

If nothing else, he left the teams he managed/coached in position to compete every year.

Half the teams in the league aren't that well off.

 

[punkrockergirl]

[edit] Head coaching record
Team Year Regular Season Post Season
Won Lost Ties Win % Finish Won Lost Win % Result
NYG 1983 3 12 1 .219 5th in NFC East - - - -
NYG 1984 9 7 0 .562 2nd in NFC East 1 1 .500 Lost to San Francisco 49ers in NFC Divisional Game.
NYG 1985 10 6 0 .625 2nd in NFC East 1 1 .500 Lost to Chicago Bears in NFC Divisional Game.
NYG 1986 14 2 0 .875 1st in NFC East 3 0 1.000 Super Bowl XXI Champions.
NYG 1987 6 9 0 .400 5th in NFC East - - - -
NYG 1988 10 6 0 .625 2nd in NFC East - - - -
NYG 1989 12 4 0 .750 1st in NFC East 0 1 .000 Lost to Los Angeles Rams in NFC Divisional Game.
NYG 1990 13 3 0 .812 1st in NFC East 3 0 1.000 Super Bowl XXV Champions.
NYG Total 77 49 1 .611 8 3 .727
NE 1993 5 11 0 .312 4th in AFC East - - - -
NE 1994 10 6 0 .625 2nd in AFC East 0 1 .000 Lost to Cleveland Browns in AFC Wild-Card Game.
NE 1995 6 10 0 .375 4th in AFC East - - - -
NE 1996 11 5 0 .687 1st in AFC East 2 1 .667 Lost to Green Bay Packers in Super Bowl XXXI.
NE Total 32 32 0 .500 2 2 .500
NYJ 1997 9 7 0 .562 3rd in AFC East - - - -
NYJ 1998 12 4 0 .750 1st in AFC East 1 1 .500 Lost to Denver Broncos in AFC Championship Game.
NYJ 1999 8 8 0 .500 4th in AFC East - - - -
NYJ Total 29 19 0 .604 1 1 .500
DAL 2003 10 6 0 .625 2nd in NFC East 0 1 .000 Lost to Carolina Panthers in NFC Wild-Card Game.
DAL 2004 6 10 0 .375 3rd in NFC East - - - -
DAL 2005 9 7 0 .562 3rd in NFC East - - - -
DAL 2006 9 7 0 .562 2nd in NFC East 0 1 .000 Lost to Seattle Seahawks in NFC Wild-Card Game.
DAL Total 34 30 0 .531 0 2 .000
Total[14] 172 130 1 .569 11 8 .578

theres the proof parcells isnt that good.. especially in the playoffs 11-8.. so why is he hailed as a great coach... and everything he touches turns to gold.. not a great regular season record... a bad post season record.. no long term success at any of the teams .. but he did win 2 superbowls... with one team though.. so like i said success in one place.. fail everywhere else.. the way to be judged in the nfl is post season success.. and bill doesnt have it.. look at the records with each team.. id say thats pretty sub par.. coaches get fired for being 500 or near but this guy is hailed for no reason, and as i said that post season record is terrible outside of with the giants.. and 11 winning seasons out of 19 thats piss poor and out of those 11 winning seasons he only went to the playoffs for 10 of them and out of those 10 playoff trips he only got past the divisional round 4 times...

 

[Cy/MiG]

theres the proof parcells isnt that good.. especially in the playoffs 11-8.. so why is he hailed as a great coach... and everything he touches turns to gold.. not a great regular season record... a bad post season record.. no long term success at any of the teams .. but he did win 2 superbowls... with one team though.. so like i said success in one place.. fail everywhere else.. the way to be judged in the nfl is post season success.. and bill doesnt have it.. look at the records with each team.. id say thats pretty sub par.. coaches get fired for being 500 or near but this guy is hailed for no reason, and as i said that post season record is terrible outside of with the giants.. and 11 winning seasons out of 19 thats piss poor and out of those 11 winning seasons he only went to the playoffs for 10 of them and out of those 10 playoff trips he only got past the divisional round 4 times...

True.

But name me one other coach/GM who has had as much success with 3 or more different teams.

You can't. You really can't.

Because most coaches just stick to one place and then retire.

Parcells has led at least 4 different franchises to the playoffs, 3 to the championsip game, 2 to the Super Bowl.

How many other coaches have EVER done that...???

Very, very few. If any.

 

[punkrockergirl]

im not saying parcells is a bad coach.. i dont like him but that aside im just saying i dont understand why people hail him the way they do.. i mean the proof is in the stats i just dont get it.. and most coaches stay in one place if they are having success .. parcells mistake was leaving new york

 

[Cy/MiG]

im not saying parcells is a bad coach.. i dont like him but that aside im just saying i dont understand why people hail him the way they do.. i mean the proof is in the stats i just dont get it.. and most coaches stay in one place if they are having success .. parcells mistake was leaving new york

I think's it's BECAUSE he keeps moving around.

Look at say, Tony Dungy.

Great coach and system, but one could argue he's only good because of Manning and co.

I mean, yes he built up the Bucs and led the Colts to a ring, but there's nothing saying he could turn around the Lions.

Parcells on the other hand has taken over 4 different franchises and taken them to the playoffs and 2 to the Super Bowl.

And he just turned a 1-15 team into an 11-5 one.

That is AMAZING.

The guy just gets results, no matter what team he takes over and who his personnel are.

VERY FEW other coaches/GM's could do what Parcells has done.

That's why he's the 'big tuna'.

 

[punkrockergirl]

I think's it's BECAUSE he keeps moving around.

Look at say, Tony Dungy.

Great coach and system, but one could argue he's only good because of Manning and co.

I mean, yes he built up the Bucs and led the Colts to a ring, but there's nothing saying he could turn around the Lions.

Parcells on the other hand has taken over 4 different franchises and taken them to the playoffs and 2 to the Super Bowl.

And he just turned a 1-15 team into an 11-5 one.

That is AMAZING.

The guy just gets results, no matter what team he takes over and who his personnel are.

VERY FEW other coaches/GM's could do what Parcells has done.

That's why he's the 'big tuna'.

he had hardly anything to do with that.. give that credit to sparano and the offensive coordinator for bringing in the wildcat.. granted that he did bring in akin odel or however its spelled and fasano .. but he had little to do with their success .. dont give him credit for that

 

[Cy/MiG]

he had hardly anything to do with that.. give that credit to sparano and the offensive coordinator for bringing in the wildcat.. granted that he did bring in akin odel or however its spelled and fasano .. but he had little to do with their success .. dont give him credit for that

Who do you think hired Sparano and all the coaches?

And help scout for the draft?

And picked out select personnel like Fasano?

Parcells is running the show.

He does, in fact, have the 'keys to a franchise'.