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Kids in the American adoption "system" - interesting facts

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Report: Foster System Foils Adoptions

Fri Mar 11, 6:41 PM ET

By DAVID CRARY, AP National Writer

NEW YORK - The backlog of children languishing in foster care could be sharply reduced if state agencies were more friendly and helpful to prospective parents asking about adoptions, according to a new report which says fewer than one of 16 adults who make initial inquiries actually ends up adopting.

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The vast majority give up "not because they don't want to, but apparently because they decide not to deal with a system they perceive as too frustrating, bureaucratic and just plain unfriendly," the Evan B. Donaldson Adoption Institute says.

The report urges state agencies to set up hotlines staffed by well-trained employees who provide callers with immediate, encouraging responses. Throughout the process, state employees should strive to avoid alienating applicants, be cordial in broaching the issue of background checks, and provide clear information, it said.

A preliminary version of the report circulated among adoption professionals last year, and already has had an impact. Barb Holtan, director of a new federal initiative called AdoptUSKids, said the findings prompted her program to form state recruitment response teams with the goal of providing "basic good customer services" to prospective parents.

"We recruit and recruit (parents), and then when people call they're treated less than enthusiastically," she said Friday.

The report's lead researcher, Jeff Katz, formerly headed Rhode Island's state adoption agency. He and his colleagues surveyed more than 40 states, analyzed federal data and conducted interviews in Boston, Miami and San Jose, Calif.

"To me, it's shocking," Katz said in a telephone interview. "There are kids in foster care saying, 'No one wants me' and there are parents who want to adopt saying, 'Why doesn't anyone return my calls?'"

According to the latest federal statistics, from 2002, about 126,000 children were in foster care awaiting adoption, often for many years. Roughly 53,000 children were adopted from foster care, in most cases by their foster parents or by relatives; Katz said less than 6 percent of the 240,000 other adults who inquired about adoption ended up completing the process.

Katz said state agencies — rather than spending to recruit ever more applicants — should focus on making the process more welcoming, even during the necessary screening to weed out unsuitable parents. He said at least one state agency seemed to deter applicants by fingerprinting them at their first orientation meeting.

For foster children, "an alienating experience for a prospective parent can mean the difference between a life spent in the uncertainty of temporary homes and the loving embrace of a permanent family," the report said.

Experts not connected with the Donaldson Institute expressed empathy with often underfunded state adoption agencies, but concurred with the thrust of Katz's report.

Gloria Hochman of the Philadelphia-based National Adoption Center said states should continue recruiting, to enhance the pool of prospective parents.

"Unfortunately, the agencies don't always have enough staff," she said. "They do the best they can, but they need more focus on what potential adopters need. It takes a lot of courage to apply, and people expect to be treated with courtesy."

Holtan, an adoption professional since 1980, said Katz's study confirmed what many in the field suspected based on anecdotal information.

"We'd say to people, 'The kids are waiting. Call us.' Then they'd call us, and we'd ask crazy questions. ... We need to see these folks as precious resources."

One adoptive mother, learning of Katz's study, said she "felt chills" because it so reflected her experiences.

Judith St. Onge, a hospital executive in Montgomery, Ala., said she and her husband have adopted seven children while living in three different states — but six times resorted to private adoption because dealing with state agencies proved frustrating.



"We got tired of the run-around, the lost paperwork, and, in many cases, the rudeness and lack of concern," she said. "There should be easy fixes — like having a friendly person answer when you make your first call."

St. Onge said she was often told the state's paramount concern was for the child, not the prospective parents.

"That's a false either-or," she said. "It ought to be win-win."

The Donaldson Institute's director, Adam Pertman, suggested these problems may be fueling the rise in adoptions of foreign children.

"How many times can you get hung up on you before you go elsewhere?" he asked.

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That is so sad. How many children are desperately in need of a warm loving family and a stable roof over their heads....and how many families are longing and willing to provide that warm stable family to them....but it never gets accomplished because the system makes it damn near impossible to complete an adoption.

They seriously need to reform the entire process. I honestly feel the federal government should provide more funding to state adoption programs. These are our CHILDREN. They need our help. It's one of the many disheartening problems we have right here in our own country we should be worrying about fixing. Not nearly enough attention is paid to problems like this. And it's the innocent child victims who pay the price for that oversight. :sowrong:

Mimi
 
Stupid kids.

You know I'm just joshin'.

Cheers.😀
 
Well, what could be done, really, to rectify things? The state legislature in TX keeps cutting back the programs for children, so voting for the right people would help, I guess, but that doesn't seem like much.

Are private adoptions better, any stats?
 
I have the "numbers" on private adoptions around here somewhere. I'll have to find them and I'll post them. Generally they are much higher and more positive, because the people are paying out of pocket for private agencies to do the work that is most often left to the state in foster/adopt scenarios. Also, they tend to involve younger children or infants which are almost never heard of when adopting from a public agency unless you fostered the kid from birth.

The reason the system is in this state is because there is absolutely NO money being generated. It's a total COST to anyone involved. Have you ever seen a social worker's paycheck? Probably not, unless you're toting around amicroscope. 🙄 then we're talking about money that it costs to house, feed, clothe, medicate and educate these kids usually out of medicaid or a program associated with it. Then once a child is adopted, to counterset some of the costs, some of them that have severe problems be they medical or emotional, have stipends awarded to the family that barely cover doctors' expenses. BUT..wihtout the help, many potential families couldn't afford to just plop out the funds to properly care for a kid.


I presonally think this is one of those unpopular issues where "it takes a village to raise a child" needs to come into play. I think it should be a tax based initiative in that the better the kids are provided for, the better citizens they become. BUT...no one in the regular stream of society is going to want to do that for "foster kids" even though the kids are the victims of poor adults.

It's a dangerous and depressing stigma that these kids carry into adulthood where a life with little to no formal education awaits. We're breeding ditch diggers as my case worker once said. In this system lie some of the most brilliant minds the world may ever know....and we're letting them waste away.

We need a reformation no doubt, but some places just don't have the funds. That's the biggest problem. Money. It's not what to do with it once you get it ....it's GETTING it.

The adoption tax credit was a nice step, but it's only usefull AFTER the adoption. Not before or during.

*sigh*

Please forgive my typos...I took some meds and I can't type to save my life tonight.🙂
 
adoption, as some know, I have 2 beautiful children that came to me via adoption. Adoption is an awesome way to create a family. On one hand you bring loving caring parents to children that would otherwise not have much opportunity, and to the parents you bring a love that can never be matched, unconditional love, I learn as much from my children as they learn from me.

Foster care system bites, the tax credit yes it helped and there is a bit of a larger tax credit for those that adopt out of the foster system or children with disabilities or health issues but JoBelle is right, it does not nearly cover it. When it does work it is a beautiful site. In the house directly behind me is a couple who have adopted 5 little boys all from the foster care system, all with issues mild to moderate, all from drug mothers, 3 african american children, 1 hispanic and 1 white, they were raised by this couple from infancy. They all proudly go on the school bus with my son and frequent my yard for play and cookies! They have 1 little girl with more issues from a drug mother that she cannot even come out of the house and they do not expect her to live past 10...god bless that couple, it takes more then money, it takes love, strength, courage and wisdom.

As far as private adoptions that bites too, it is great if you have lots of money and you can "sell" yourself to the birthmother(parents)and the majority of couple out there want healthy white infants.

When my husband and I adopted we really looked at our options, we found a non profit organization in our state that is run by past adoptive parents acting as buddies to help you through the process, my children are both from Colombia as International Adoptions are just plain easier and more of a sure thing for those that have limited funds.

We do need to do something in this country but if you have people running the goverment that care less about the children out there then nothing will ever be accomplished. For more about programs and things that can be done visit the http://www.davethomasfoundation.org/

Dave Thomas of Wendy's was a tremendous advocate of Foster care adoptions.
 
hi J 🙂

I'm glad you posted here. I can only speak for one aspect of the adoption issue. I compare it to the relative ease with which I had a biological child...and I technically died on the operating table when he was being delivered! LOL It's not funny, but it shows the extent to which the systems are failing kids.

I'm finishing the process to adopt the world's most wonderful 11 year old boy. I had done the baby thing once already, so this was what I searched for. I'm blessed that he came to the family with sadness from loss being his biggest obstacle. Some of the horror stories...I can't bear to think about right now or I'll never sleep tonight. I think that's the worst part. Kids who have suffered unmentionable terror and abuse....there are people who want to parent them. And the system fails them all.

They say eveyrone has a purpose....I found mine. I hope y'all don't see me on CNN one day screaming at a Senator...lol
 
I was adopted and I've had a pretty good life! Except for this damn tickling "thing" I can't seem to get rid of.....

Although I'me generally one of those "don't have 'em if you can't raise 'em" people, I also realize that once the kids are here, they have to be taken care of. I have no clue as to where my tax money goes, but I'd have no problem if more of it when to helping the foster care system or streamlining adoption - as long as the money is spent wisely and efficiently. You can raise taxes, throw that money into a critically needed system, and it can still get nowhere.

"Luckily" 🙄 in TX we've had enough children killed by their own biological parents while under the wavering gaze of the state foster care agencies that average citizen voting taxpayers are looking into solving problems and finding solutions through votes, donations & letter writing. The proverbial turning a bad thing into something good. It's crazy, a year ago people were writing letters to the editor saying about state social workers "Being overworked and underpaid is just an excuse and were are not going to accept it anymore!" I actually saw that in print. Problem is, they are indeed overworked and underpaid. In TX the average social worker handles 70 different cases a month. But kids kept dying, the legislature kept cutting childcare and health & human resources funding- not that their job is an easy one, where do you cut when people depend on all these different things? So now attitudes in Texas have changes some, and there seems to be a very slowly moving momentum to something vaguely better happening.

One issue that bugs me about adoptions, though, is that people of different races are being stopped by court orders, etc. from adopting kids of another race. That's just dumb. A kid needs to be taken care of first. He can learn about his 'beautiful and unique heritage mosaic' AFTER his stomach is full and when he's had a good night's sleep. None of that other stuff matters as much - I speak from expereince; I'm a white boy adopted by white folks and all my potato eatin' Irish ancesters didn't help me one bit in getting a date for the prom....
 
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Oddjob0226 said:
One issue that bugs me about adoptions, though, is that people of different races are being stopped by court orders, etc. from adopting kids of another race. That's juts dumb. A kid needs to be take care of first. He can learn about his 'beautiful and unique heritage mosaic' AFTER his stomach is full and when he's had a good night's sleep. None of that other stuff matters as much - I speak from expereince; I'm a white boy adopted by white folks and all my potato eatin' Irish ancesters didn't help me one bit in getting a date for the prom....

a heart, mind and concious has no color or nationality. My kids are hispanic but what do I see....love! When my son was only 3 he laid his hand in mine and said, mommy your hand is light my hand is dark I love you...all without much thought. The innocence of youth...don't you wish it stayed that way?
 
Oddjob0226 said:
One issue that bugs me about adoptions, though, is that people of different races are being stopped by court orders, etc. from adopting kids of another race. That's just dumb. A kid needs to be taken care of first. He can learn about his 'beautiful and unique heritage mosaic' AFTER his stomach is full and when he's had a good night's sleep. None of that other stuff matters as much - I speak from expereince; I'm a white boy adopted by white folks and all my potato eatin' Irish ancesters didn't help me one bit in getting a date for the prom....

I think I mentioned this "concept" in another thread. I think it's horrible that adoptive parents run into this problem. When you have love to give to a child, you don't care if the kid is purple, you just want the right to adopt.

What jackass made these rules anyway? Obviously not someone who's had to be raised in foster care because the courts wouldn't let a good family adopt them over race.

The entire system needs overhauling so prospective parents can more easily adopt these kids. Every child deserves a loving home to be raised in. Foster care is okay for the short term emergency care, but children need families to call their own.
 
When I applied to adopt, the criteria was open. Boy - girl-age-race. It just so happens that the child with the personality that best fit my family happened to also look like I gave birth to him. With his dark hair and green eyes, he looks more like me than my blue-eyed, golden-haired biological son! I had however also already begun the process with a great agency for a Chinese adoption (thanks to info from a TMF pal) but this worked out better. Race plays NO part when a child has no family to begin with. You're RIGHT ON about the full tummy and a warm bed being the priority.

As far as TX goes, Odd. You'd be surprised that among people adopting from Foster Care, your state ranks among one of the easiest to work with and one of the most dedicated to getting the children to families. It sounds like they rank about the same as far as finding kids that are in dangerous homes and getting them out though. Texas runs a website that keeps DAILY updates on the children for out of state families to view and inquire. At one point, I thought those sites were a bad idea, but in the end...it put the child out there for people out side of thier home state to consider them. Thanks to interstate adoption, a TX child could easily end up in NY or Oregon. My own state of MS doesn't even have EMAIL for their social workers. Everything is done by snail mail or fax. Yep...you guessed it. NO MONEY!

This truely is one of America's dirty little secrets. Forget about international politics for a while. Sexual abuse is rampant in thsi country. Theya re saying now that more than half of the kids entering foster care right now are doing so because they were sexually molested in their birth families. How sad is that? Then .... the amazing thing is that in spite of this fact...in SPITE of all that an adoptive family must go through to help a child heal from those experiences...there is still no federall mandated system to hook these kids up with the WILLING parents seeking to adopt.

Blah
 
Thank God it works for the few families and children that have fortuniately been put together to build a strong loving family.
 
Coffee said:
Thank God it works for the few families and children that have fortuniately been put together to build a strong loving family.

See? THIS is why I love you!

LOL You big lug! Always pointing out the positive! 🙂
 
Never having tried to adopt (I'd be such a bad parent, I'd probably lose the kid somewhere under the seat of my car and not be able to reach him, like all those dried French fries that are there already. I mean, freedom fries.) I didn't know Texas was so high up on the success list! I know that when people do adopt here in our lush tropical paradise, it is apparently pretty easy, but there just aren't that many people going through with it. But they love having sex and making their own, oh yes they do! I have a Dallas friend who is going through the process of adopting a Guatemalan boy. Not sure why she went out of the country for a child, but then, he needs someone to take care of him, too, so win/win.

But there are still a lot of kids in TX either A.) in foster care, and luckily with very good people most of the time; or B.) stuck with really rotten biological parents. I had a friend die a year ago of drugs, and all the "good" people who knew her are so happy in their goodness when they point out that she 'made her own choices'. Never knowing about her problems, I spoke with friends of hers, found out about her life as a kid, and wonder - how could she have NOT made the choices she did, considering?

I met a girl named Zipporah in September '04, on the street. I bought her lunch and we talked. Once she realized that I wasn't looking to get anything from her and I realized that she wasn't going to rob me, we opened up. She got her first crack rock when she was 14 from her own dad. "Choices" or not, how do you not have a screwed up life when that's what raised you? The state had taken away her daughter.... which broke her heart, but the girl is safer, and it's probably what should have happened to Zipporah in when she was a kid.

I gave her some emergency numbers I carry with me (Salvation Army, domestic abuse shelters, etc.) I'm still trying to track her down and see what's happening with her and help her further, but I have no idea how.

That's why I've been opening up my schedule, wallet and even veins most recently for strangers out there. There are some people out there doing some really messed up things, but more and more I see that they had a lot of help getting to that point. It's not my 'responsibility', but then again, how good am I that I shouldn't help them out? I can't sit here and say everything thing good in my VERY good life I've earned.... When someone gets recognized for a great accomplishment, it's often said 'no one makes it alone'. I'm discovering more and more that the same can be said just as well when tragic personal failure occurs.


I've read where so many white families want to adopt a black child but more often than not someone somewhere files an injunction to stop it. The usual argument is that the child won't experience her special cultural uniqueness, and life would be harder for a child with mixed parents, which is such a load. First of all, life is hard no matter what; you can have racially different parents and be made fun of, or have no parents and be made fun of and then miss out on a lot more. Besides, life is 'harder' because we as people usually make it so - I mean, the sun isn't a little hotter or gravity a little heavier because someone was born a half-breed, after all. Besides, I doubt all those white Romanian babies really care all that much about their unique culture as much as they care about not catching a filth-based disease or being beat up by older kids in an orphanage-warehouse.

Secondly, most people who think progressively enough to adopt outside their ethnicity are forward thinking enough that they aren't going to neglect the historical roots of the child.

Like Joe Dirt says, "Dang"!
 
Speaking as a Child who was Adopted

Thank God for the selfless people who have room in their homes, hearts & lives for an adopted child. Both my brother & I were BOTH adopted back in the 50s when teen pregnacy was THE scarlet Letter.
There's Parents...and then there's Mom & Dad; therein lies the BIG Difference. Any two animals can have offspring...that's only the Begining as all the Parents in the audience can attest...then comes midnight feedings, Rushing you to hospitals, watchin your softball game or your receiving the 4-H trophy...you get the Idea. Some of the More Adventuous even dressed up like Santa, Threw B-Day Parties & Cut your Xmas tree for the school pagent.
My Brother & I are among the Luckiest Kids in the world to have been raised by parents who TRUELY WANTED but could not have Children.


The Biggest Trial was teachin us how to LOOK Like Them.
That wasa Hard!!LOL
And to all a goodnight
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