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LA Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Banned For Life..

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Woo Hoo! The Racist gets his..

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Breaking News:

LA Clippers owner Donald Sterling has been banned for life by the NBA, and also fined $2.5 Million Dollars.

Good Riddance. The NBA, and the civilized world, for that matter.. is no place for a bigot like Sterling.

Thankfully, he is finished in the NBA.
 
Golden State Warriors coach Mark Jackson, whose team is currently playing the Clippers in the NBA Playoffs, urged Clippers fans to boycott the Clippers next home game, saying that "This is about more than basketball".

While I see Coach Jackson's point.. I take another view.

Clippers Coach Doc Rivers, and the Clippers players.. are just as outraged by Sterling's comments as everyone else is.

I think.. for fans to boycott the game.. shows lack of support for the Clippers players, and coach, and causes the team to suffer for the hateful comments of their bigoted owner.

If it was me.. I would want to attend the game, and stand up and cheer for the players and their coach, saying "All of you are great people, and are great players, and coach, and we appreciate and support your effort that you give to us, in spite of your owner's hateful views"
 
Many People are saying that his 1st Amendment Rights were Violated.

http://deadspin.com/twitter-users-rage-against-death-of-the-first-amendment-1569415262

I don't think they fully get how Freedom of Speech works.

I'm all for Freedom of Speech, any person should have the right to say whatever they want.

However, Freedom of Speech does not mean Freedom from Repercussions.

You're more than entitled to say whatever you want, but that doesn't mean that you're Immune from possible Consequences that could come afterwards.
 
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Many People are saying that his 1st Amendment Rights were Violated.

http://deadspin.com/twitter-users-rage-against-death-of-the-first-amendment-1569415262

I don't think they fully get how Freedom of Speech works.

I'm all for Freedom of Speech, any person should have the right to say whatever they want.

However, Freedom of Speech does not mean Freedom from Repercussions.

You're more than entitled to say whatever you want, but that doesn't mean that you're Immune from possible Consequences that could come afterwards.

^THIS FOR THE WIN^

Rights always come with responsibilities!

People are always screaming for their rights but when it's time to be responsible for what flew out of their mouths, everyone wants to take the trap door out!

He's a disgusting scumbag anyway; he's 80 years old and how old was the girlfriend? Maybe 25? What a creep!

He has a team full of black players but doesn't want anyone he's seeing/screwing to have associations with black people? Magic Johnson is loved by a lot of people and most would consider it a privilege to have a photo opp with him. The man's an idiot with a big reputation for being a racist. Seems like he loves it when people of color make him money but has no other use for them.

I hope he gets his back broken financially; people like him don't hear anything that's not attached to a dollar sign. I hope he hemorrhages money by the minute and if it kills him it'll be one less racist slob to have to deal with. Good riddance!

Then I hope Magic Johnson buys the team for pennies on the dollar......

I feel badly for the team because it's got to be hard to play for someone who has so little respect for them. The man is despicable, but he is the team owner and that puts them in a horrible position. Other than that, if I knew there would be no implications to the team, I'd tell them to tell him to play the damn game himself and see how well he'd fare.

Good luck to the team....their owner can roast in hell for all I care!
 
I've heard lots of people saying that the NBA will force Sterling to sell the team. That may not be the case granted he will no longer have any input with the team what so ever his wife I believe owns part of the team as well and the NBA can not force her to sell if she doesn't want to. This could very well turn into a battle for the courts to decide even with a lifetime ban. All that said the NBA made the right choice by its players, teams and fans.
 
He should be forced to sell the team, his profit will be immense, and the punishment was deserved...BUT the Lynch mob mentality of the NBA and the Dopey white liberals in the Press was both expected and at the same time shocking. The left has no desire for the rule of law and Due Process...His Due Process was between 48 and 72 hours, what a joke. The reason why our Forefathers wanted a a Republic and not necessarily a Democracy, because a democracy can easily become a lynch mob, you got a taste of it with this idiot Sterling and the cretins of the NBA...Sheriff Adam Silver catered to the Posse on this one.
 
He should be forced to sell the team, his profit will be immense, and the punishment was deserved...BUT the Lynch mob mentality of the NBA and the Dopey white liberals in the Press was both expected and at the same time shocking. The left has no desire for the rule of law and Due Process...His Due Process was between 48 and 72 hours, what a joke. The reason why our Forefathers wanted a a Republic and not necessarily a Democracy, because a democracy can easily become a lynch mob, you got a taste of it with this idiot Sterling and the cretins of the NBA...Sheriff Adam Silver catered to the Posse on this one.

Excellent take, usgrant.

Ben Shapiro nailed the utter hypocrisy at play here:

Good riddance to Sterling. But let’s understand that ginning up the mob based on private feelings is a dangerous business. We now live in a world in which racial feelings are more important than racist acts (as Sterling’s housing discrimination non-ban shows), and in which bad thought trumps bad action.

Here, then, is a brief list of things that will not get you banned by a sports league for life. The good news: if we tape record all of these people and then hand the tape to Harvey Levin, presumably we can get them banned relatively quickly. Because privacy now extends only to comments with which we agree as a society.

1. Discriminating against black people in housing. Donald Sterling, as mentioned above, settled a lawsuit from the Department of Justice in 2009 in which the DOJ alleged that Sterling had discriminated against Hispanics, blacks, and families without children in housing. According to the lawsuit, Sterling said that “black tenants smell and attract vermin.” The NBA did not react. When specifically asked today, NBA commissioner Adam Silver explicitly said that the NBA’s ban on Sterling had nothing to do with past actions, only his nasty views. Because words speak louder than actions.

2. Strangling somebody. In 1997, Golden State Warriors All-Star Latrell Sprewell, playing for coach P.J. Carlesimo, decided to go berserk after Carlesimo asked him to “put a little mustard” on his passes. Sprewell then wrapped his hands around Carlesimo’s neck and dragged him across the floor for seven seconds. He then emerged later and punched Carlesimo. Two years earlier, he had accosted a teammate with a two-by-four. He was suspended for a grand total of 68 games.

3. Being a publicly vicious racist while black. Spike Lee has stated that white gentrification of Harlem has been horrible, has posted the address of George Zimmerman’s parents online to spur violence, has explained after visiting South Africa in the early 1990s, “I seriously wanted to pick up a gun and shoot whites. The only way to resolve matters is by bloodshed.” He, like Donald Sterling, is no fan of interracial dating: “I give interracial couples a look. Daggers. They get uncomfortable when they see me on the street.” He’s currently a host on NBA Radio on SiriusXM, stars in NBA commercials, and had a front-row seat to the Sterling announcement.

Then there’s Jay Z. Jay Z isn’t just fêted by the President of the United States. He’s a former part-owner of the Brooklyn Nets and, as an agent, works closely with the league. He was spotted recently at an NBA game wearing a necklace medallion for the Five Percent Nation, which sees black men as gods and white people as devils.

4. Using anti-gay slurs. In 2011, Kobe Bryant called referee Bennie Adams a “******.” He received a $100,000 fine and no suspension. In 2012, current Clippers forward Matt Barnes called an officer a “f***ing ******,” then made an attempt to handcuff him. There was no fine. He was suspended for one game. The suspension was unrelated to the slur. In 2012, Amare Stoudemire of the New York Knicks sent an anti-gay slur to a fan via Twitter. He was fined $50,000. There was no suspension. In 2013, Roy Hibbert of the Indiana Pacers used an anti-gay slur and was fined $75,000, without suspension. The Houston Rockets team is currently being sued by a gay waiter for their alleged use of anti-gay slurs. The NBA has taken no action.

5. Attacking patrons of your sport. In 2004, Stephen Jackson and Ron Artest of the Indiana Pacers leapt into the stands in Detroit to attack fans. Jermaine O’Neal fought fans on the court. A full-scale melee ensued with players fighting fans and fans fighting players. The result: Ron Artest was suspended the remainder of the season, Jackson was suspended for 30 games, and O’Neal was suspended for 15 games. In 1995, when Houston Rockets guard Vernon Maxwell didn’t like the comments of a fan, he charged into the stands and punched him. That resulted in a whopping 10 game suspension.

6. Pushing your girlfriend to have an abortion, then harassing her about it. In 2013, the press reported that current Clippers guard JJ Redick had an abortion contract with girlfriend Vanessa Lopez. When she became pregnant, the contract stipulated, she would have to have an abortion, and Redick would then have to “maintain a social and/or dating relationship” with her for a year or pay her $25,000. When she refused to have an abortion, he pressured her to do so. So far, there have been no repercussions.

7. Drawing your gun on a fellow player. Gilbert Arenas was suspended for 50 games, and his teammate Javaris Crittenton was suspended for 38 games after they drew firearms on each other while arguing over gambling debts. In the locker room.

8. Reckless driving resulting in a passenger’s death. In 2009, JR Smith, then of the Denver Nuggets, pled guilty to reckless driving. His reckless driving resulted in one of his passengers dying. He was suspended a total of 9 games.

None of this makes Donald Sterling’s repulsive and disgusting racism okay. None of it means that he shouldn’t have been tossed out of the NBA – for his racist activity. But it does demonstrate that for the NBA, the only reason Sterling is gone is media-driven hysteria over a private tape release. It certainly isn’t the NBA’s high moral standard with regard to language, race, or activity. And that is more of a commentary on the culture of the NBA and the lack of standards in the media than anything else.
 
Magic Johnson being the smart Bidness man that he is will probably have to start the bidding somewhere between 750,000 million and a billion dollars if he wants to secure this bid. Considering Sterling paid 12.5 million for the club this should keep him in gold digging hookers for quite some time.
 
There was a poll posted on AOL asking respondents to give their opinions on what should happen to Mr Sterling..

The poll was evenly split, with 39% saying Sterling should receive a lifetime ban, and 39% saying no ban at all. Smaller percentages of people chose either "A shorter ban" or "I'm not sure".

People can have their opinions, but.. even if he wasn't banned for "Life", I don't see how Sterling could possibly get away with this, without at least a severe, lengthy, punishment. Considering his age, a ban of any lengthy period, could well result in "Life" anyway, as he might well pass away before his ban is up.

I hope the ban isn't overturned, but I also heard last night that we likely haven't heard the end of this situation. It has been said that it is highly possible that Sterling will sue in an attempt to have the ban overturned, and one has to wonder if some compromise would be reached, where he would be banned for a while, and then reinstated after some period of time that wouldn't be that lengthy in nature.
 
Tough call but id vote for no punishment for him. he has a right to say what he wants. it wasnt made public except for that douche bag mistress he had. it was a set up. hes a bad man, but they have no right to punish him to that extreme. and we all know if it was a black owner that made racist remarks about white players, nothing would come of it. i grow tired of this double standard. make it equal, or nothing at all.
 
Contrary to popular belief, he does not have the right to say whatever he wants. The first amendment protects you from consquences such as jail, but even that is limited. You can't go yelling "fire" in a crowded theater. Remember?

But as for Sterling, do any of you detractors know why Sterling was banned? You can't be an owner of a team that employs African-Americans on such a large scale and still say stupid things as what Sterling said. This is not the first time someone has been "banned" for life. Remember the former Reds owner?

If you are in a position of leadership, you have to watch what you say. Period. I guarantee you if President Obama came out and said "white people are the devils", he would be impeached immediately. Look at the overall picture of what he said. This wasn't some off handed comment, this was a "speech" of what he truly feels. He is ok with doing things for blacks, but still sees them as inferior. This isn't his first go around with discrimination.
 
We've moved the line for what is appropriate when making a post. And directly insulting your fellow members as you did is past said line. Don't do it.

Myriads
 
Tough call but id vote for no punishment for him. he has a right to say what he wants. it wasnt made public except for that douche bag mistress he had. it was a set up. hes a bad man, but they have no right to punish him to that extreme. and we all know if it was a black owner that made racist remarks about white players, nothing would come of it. i grow tired of this double standard. make it equal, or nothing at all.

True, JiFR. But no one has the right to scream FIRE in a crowded adult arcade theater without any consequences.
 
Excellent take, usgrant.

Ben Shapiro nailed the utter hypocrisy at play here:

Are you for fucking real here?

Take your nonsensical conservative hypocrisy argument style and take it to P&R because it has no place in a real conversation.

He agreed to the bylaws of the NBA's Constitution when he bought the team in 81. He is subject to their penalties and their rulings because it is THEIR business. Got a problem with gun waving and the brawl in the Palace? Great. Nobody cares. It has nothing to do with ANYTHING when it comes to Donald Sterling, whether it's contextual or anything else, and has no place being discussed. The only thing that has any merit are the past transgressions of Donald Sterling when it comes to his racism, which has never been a secret, whether it's how he operates his slums or how he treated Elgin Baylor or how he brought white women around the shower after games to display his players like they were on the auction block.
 
I would probably be fired for saying something like that too, and I don't deal with a brand / organization that employs and markets to a great deal of African Americans.
 
I would probably be fired for saying something like that too, and I don't deal with a brand / organization that employs and markets to a great deal of African Americans.

You also aren't a notorious slum lord who has treated players and members of his front office like cattle either.

There's always a call for defense or hypocrisy when it has to deal with white rich racist morons who scream about freedom of speech but have no concept that said speech carries consequences.
 
You also aren't a notorious slum lord who has treated players and members of his front office like cattle either.

There's always a call for defense or hypocrisy when it has to deal with white rich racist morons who scream about freedom of speech but have no concept that said speech carries consequences.

I agree. This on top of his history of similar behavior - yeah, he should be banned and his ownership terminated, but I think people should be allowed to talk about whatever they want in the privacy of their home and company of their family / significant others without losing their livelihood. But that's the price you pay when you're rich / famous I guess.
 
If it is you or me in the privacy of our own homes, we might still get in trouble socially and with our work places. At the same time, we don't even know if the woman in the recording was the one who released it our some third party. The end of the day, his ownership of the team is conditional on the bylaws of the NBA and their board of governors and owners, and they can revoke that status with cause and with majority votes.

The bigger problem is why David Stern, since he took control of the league, abided a known racist slum lord who had major issues with not treating his players and office personnel like pieces of property while also running the worst franchise in professional sports history. It isn't just that he's a racist; he's a racist who sucked as an owner at an historic level, and who has absolutely zero redeemable qualities. Or why the hell did the NAACP award him a Lifetime Service Award WHEN all this shit was known.
 
The man obviously has a history of being a class-A fucktard, and his own karma has come full circle to call on his ass. But what is also shameful is the jeering self-righteous race to pile-on a dead carcass... so many glass houses, so many stones. Obviously, mirrors are not very popular in modern society.
 
It's amazing how many times you splain it to them the idiots on the left still can't get the rule of law thing, due process, how the NBA agreement doesn't trump the U.S. Constitution, etc. etc. etc.
 
It's amazing how many times you splain it to them the idiots on the left still can't get the rule of law thing, due process, how the NBA agreement doesn't trump the U.S. Constitution, etc. etc. etc.

Power is relative. While the U.S Constitution may carry more authority than the NBA constitution, it's not a determining factor in ownership of an NBA franchise. The NBA Board of Governors retains that authority, not the U.S Government.

It's been said on this thread already, but NBA ownership is contingent upon the league's approval, and subject to their authority. Donald Sterling knew that, or at least should have, when he purchased the Clippers. As a part of the free market, the NBA has every right in the world to protect it's assets and if Donald Sterling's presence jeopardizes profitability (I think the Clippers account for close to 3% of league profits, but don't quote me on that) then they are doing the smart thing by banning him.

Freedom of speech is VERY important but also relative. You'd be acting within your First Amendment rights by walking into a private club and insulting it's members and it's governing body would be acting within their jurisdiction by banning you from said club. ( I doubt you'd do that, but it's just an illustration, so bear with me)

I agree the U.S Constitution is important, but I don't think the Federal Government should make a heavy handed move by forcing the NBA to include a person who may jeopardize their profitability.
 
I think Sterling has beaten the NBA in court already 2 or 3 times, Ms. Sterling has done nothing wrong, under California law she owns half the team because of marriage for over 10 years. Legally the NBA can not force her out, She has done nothing wrong. No slam dunk here for the NBA whatsoever! And if this goes to a higher court, 1st, 4th, and 5th amendment issues are more likely to factor in. After Sterling gets his Billion for the sale of the team, the NBA will probably have a pricey settlement on top of this. Yet Silva had to act quickly and violate Sterling's Due Process because of impending boycott by the asshole players.
 
I think Sterling has beaten the NBA in court already 2 or 3 times, Ms. Sterling has done nothing wrong, under California law she owns half the team because of marriage for over 10 years. Legally the NBA can not force her out, She has done nothing wrong. No slam dunk here for the NBA whatsoever! And if this goes to a higher court, 1st, 4th, and 5th amendment issues are more likely to factor in. After Sterling gets his Billion for the sale of the team, the NBA will probably have a pricey settlement on top of this. Yet Silva had to act quickly and violate Sterling's Due Process because of impending boycott by the asshole players.



Donald Sterling isn't going to jail for a taped conversation in which he made incendiary racial remarks; he got fined 2.5 mill and was banned for life, and the Owners are going to vote him out of the league. Your due process joke went out the window when Sterling admitted that it was him on the tape when asked by investigators. Stop throwing around Amendments like candy because you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about because the litigation that will take place will be anti-trust, not Constitutional.

Sterling isn't going to get a billion for his team. His team was 13th in total valuation in the entire NBA, and the NBA is going to be the ones seizing ownership to sell it after paying Donald Sterling pennies on the dime. He's not going to get to negotiate the terms. He's not going to get to use the opportunity to drive the sale of his commodity through the roof because the agreement he signed to own a team in this league means he agreed to the terms that involve his ouster in the first place.

Sorry that reality just doesn't jive with you.

Also, cute how it is the players fault a racist slumlord asshole said some stupid shit, got caught, and got kicked off the country club for it. Your priorities here are totally not off base at all. Nope.

Let's pile in the Waaambulance of amateur constitutional law fellows who equate a private sector solution to a public problem as tantamount of going to prison.
 
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prime makes an excellent point.. and I was thinking exactly the same thing he posted.. but.. was reluctant to post it.. because I didn't want my post to come off as sounding prejudice in any way.,

Bottom line:

Racism or any form of prejudice/discrimination is hateful in any manner/shape or form, but especially..

The NBA is a league which is, and has been for decades, largely compromised of African Americans. Most of it's major stars, both present, and past. ( Lebron James, Michael Jordan, Wilt Chamberlin) are/were African American.

What Sterling did, would almost be like if he stood in the middle of a largely African American neighborhood, or stood in the middle of an office, where the CEO, and all the major employees, were African American, and made his racist comments.

To me, it wouldn't matter if he said these things, and was a representative of a game, which was made up of mostly white players. It's hateful, and wrong anyway, but, it seems doubly bad, because of the fact that he did so, about a game which is essentially dominated by African Americans. You don't stand in the middle of the host's house, and insult the host. For that, you get thrown out.

I hope people understand what I'm saying, but this is just my view.
 
Mitch, if he did stand up in the middle of an African American neighborhood and spouted off racist remarks, thats his right. of course he would probably get his ass kicked, which is a result of those remarks. its his choice if he wants to take that chance.
 
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