Let's Talk Chat Room and Why?

[daddy]

Hi folks! Ya know, over the years I have had issues with the chatroom as from some of my previous threads in the past have spoken. Finally, now, I have decided to let it all out on what I think about it. Some may not like it...others may agree...but that is why we have this lovely forum, right?

Being that I am a "golden oldie" around these parts any more, I remember the day that when you had a tk chatroom to meet others in, it was a luxary! What I mean by that is that you actually could show up and have some great tk conversation with like minds. That WAS the conversation...tickling...and why we liked it...how we got into it...why it was special to us and so on...

Now, it is not like that anymore. It almost seems if you bring up tickling at all anymore you are completley ignored. Why? Are you not there for a reason? It just puzzles me and what do you expect entering a tk chatroom? We have fought so long for a place to meet with others but yet when we get it, it turns into a social forum...where the mere mention of tickle is taboo.

I did not think the tk forum was a eharmony chatroom. i thought it was a place where we could all share our thoughts and fun with each other without being sidelined as an outsider?

Sure, I have heard the female arguments of "I want them to be intersted in me and not just my feet, and so on." To me that is silly...cause why are ya there? Males too. Ya put yourself out there but when others ask you questions and inquire about your tk passion, you blow them off siting that that is the only reason they are attracted to you. Well...duh...it is a tk chatroom. Is that not where like minded people are suppose to meet???

To be honest, when I go in there I end up talking music because I am afraid to ask anybody anything tk for fear I will be rejected right away. What do ya do? Sure...there are those guys/girls that push the limits and ruin it for all...but what about those who don't, and really want to have some nice conversation about our passion? It just doesn't seem right.

I have a s/o and I am proud to have her...but at the same time I like to talk with other like minded folk and learn about what makes us the way we are. What is so wrong with that? Well...in the chat room it seems like an impossabilty anymore. It just seems like a regular forum to me anymore...and that is sad!

peace out,
daddy

 

[maniactickler]

I agree. the chance of meeting anyone from a tickling chat room are slim to none. thats why i rarely go in there. seems like almost every woman out there isnt interested in having some good clean tickling fun. it has to be more of a deep, meaningful relationship to them. blah!

 

[OnnaOtaku]

Hi folks! Ya know, over the years I have had issues with the chatroom as from some of my previous threads in the past have spoken. Finally, now, I have decided to let it all out on what I think about it. Some may not like it...others may agree...but that is why we have this lovely forum, right?

Being that I am a "golden oldie" around these parts any more, I remember the day that when you had a tk chatroom to meet others in, it was a luxary! What I mean by that is that you actually could show up and have some great tk conversation with like minds. That WAS the conversation...tickling...and why we liked it...how we got into it...why it was special to us and so on...

Now, it is not like that anymore. It almost seems if you bring up tickling at all anymore you are completley ignored. Why? Are you not there for a reason? It just puzzles me and what do you expect entering a tk chatroom? We have fought so long for a place to meet with others but yet when we get it, it turns into a social forum...where the mere mention of tickle is taboo.

I did not think the tk forum was a eharmony chatroom. i thought it was a place where we could all share our thoughts and fun with each other without being sidelined as an outsider?

Sure, I have heard the female arguments of "I want them to be intersted in me and not just my feet, and so on." To me that is silly...cause why are ya there? Males too. Ya put yourself out there but when others ask you questions and inquire about your tk passion, you blow them off siting that that is the only reason they are attracted to you. Well...duh...it is a tk chatroom. Is that not where like minded people are suppose to meet???

To be honest, when I go in there I end up talking music because I am afraid to ask anybody anything tk for fear I will be rejected right away. What do ya do? Sure...there are those guys/girls that push the limits and ruin it for all...but what about those who don't, and really want to have some nice conversation about our passion? It just doesn't seem right.

I have a s/o and I am proud to have her...but at the same time I like to talk with other like minded folk and learn about what makes us the way we are. What is so wrong with that? Well...in the chat room it seems like an impossabilty anymore. It just seems like a regular forum to me anymore...and that is sad!

peace out,
daddy

I can only speak for myself, but I have no problem with talking about tickling, but to most in the chat there seems to be a fine line between a serious conversation about tickling and cyber tickling. I do not cyber tickle. I will gladly have a conversation about many aspects of the so-called fetish of tickling with any person serious, mature and down to earth enough. This is also why I rarely PC because no matter what, their reason to PC is "to talk about tickling". I strongly feel that if that is the case, then they can ask me in the public chat and make it a group thing, but they, 98% of the time, have ulterior motives. Once they get you into a PC it suddenly turns into cybering. I also have my guard up because I am not some free porn for someone to fantasize about to get their rocks off, I am a human being that is capable of talk that doesn't revolve only around tickling. I am not two dimensional. Many of my friends find that they can ask me tickling questions with ease because they have taken the time to establish themselves as a friend and make it known that when they see or talk to me that they're not talking to a pair of feet or a fetish, but a human being who is interested in such. Tickling is no more than a common interest, but because we all share this common interest, does that mean we can't explore other common interests?

I do not go to the room to cyber or to even talk about tickling. I go to socialize with friends and if tickling becomes the subject matter, then so be it. Not to mention, I hardly find "hahahahahahahha that tickles" as a conversation. "Like minded people" can meet in a tickle chat room, but once they enter that chat room do all their manors go out the window? To me, tickling is synonymous with sex and foreplay. You wouldn't randomly ask a woman on the street if her poon is wet or if by doing 'such and such' makes it wet? Atleast I hope not. So why would you go into a chat, regardless it being tickling or not, and ask someone about their feet or how ticklish they are or where they like to be tickled? I've said it a million times over, get to know them and build the credibility to ask such questions.

If your intentions sincerely are just to explore the 'whys' of tickling then I don't see why you have such a problem. I am sure any conversationalist, such as myself would be more than willing to have a real, genuine conversation about that. Every now and again I give someone the benefit of the doubt thinking that they really want to have a real conversation and I give them permission to PC (that is if they even asked for permission) but the instant that PC chime sound goes up and I see "where are you ticklish? does your husband tie you down? can I tickle you?" I just ignore them and go on thinking that everyone is the same because its a rare thing for someone to prove that mentality wrong.

Like you said in your post, back then it was all tickling talk, etc. The times have changed, there are a LOT more people now and with that comes a more diverse group. Maybe the mention of tickling in the chat is "taboo" is because that there are other things in life than tickling. People do have other things in common. You can only talk about tickling so much and I can't remember the last time someone has posted a thread that hasn't been done before or mentioned something in the chat that hasn't already been said a million times before. Also, by labeling tickling as a "passion" for everyone is pushing the envelope. Not every feels the same about it as you may or may not. I get many messages here and on MySpace using the phrase, "I see you love tickling". Love? No. Implying that my interested is of a level of or equal to love is ridiculous.

If you think the forum and chat are as "sad" as you say, I encourage you to go to a non-tickling forum and chat and try talking about it there and then see which one is worse and how you feel then. No matter how often the subject of the chat or forum is tickling, out of the 50ish thousand people here, I can guarantee most if not all of us can understand and relate to you better than anyone on any other forum. There is usually atleast always one person in the chat who wants to talk about it as much as you do. And if you really want to have a serious conversation about it and you have no ulterior motives, by all means, I invite you to PC me in the chat and we can have a good clean conversation, no hard feelings. I invite and encourage it. Just don't take the forum and chat for granted, it could all be gone someday.


Damn, I've rambled a lot. I think I'll spare you guys...

 

[drew70]

I can see where both Daddy and Girls are coming from, and I agree with both of them. It's like a social evolution has taken place. When I log into the chat room, their is little to no talk about tickling in the main room. People go off in private to do that, which I think is rather a shame. I've brought up topics or instances of tickling in the chat room, it's usually met with healthy interest. I've never felt ostricized by doing so.

If I wanted to talk tickling to Girls or anybody else in the chat room, I do it in the main room. The only time I feel inclined to go private is if I'm asked, or if the room gets so crowded it becomes difficult to catch your fellow conversationalist's responses as they fly by in a blur. However, that's rarely the case in our chat room. I also feel that any explictly sexual discussions should take place in private. By sexual, I don't mean tickle torture, I mean talk of sexual organs, private parts and orgasms.

So to bring it all down to a single point, I think the chatroom main room ought to have tickling talk such as described by Daddy, without the women being pounded with a plethera of "Where are you ticklish?" questions, but rather work those questions into respectable conversation the way you would interact in real life.

 

[marcusb]

The most common reasons I've heard from females I regulary talk to:

- All the guy wants to do is ask them about how ticklish their feet are--relentlessly. Ad nauseam.

- They don't want to cyber

- When they say "no thanks" to the above the guys turn into douchebags and/or get ugly.

 

[Helena]

I visit the chatroom, and by doing so, I have made a few "internet friends." When I enter, they always greet me nicely, and I do the same to them.
I like talking about tickling. But, because I visit the chat regularly, talk about how someone's day was, school,.....common interests; these conversations happen naturally. I have an interest in other people.

I will never PC with someone who just jumps into the chat room, doesn't even meet me, and asks if my feet are ticklish, how much I weigh, and my age. I tend to ignore those people because it's a turn off; it's rude.

Daddy, I have never had the pleasure of meeting you. I'm not sure what kind of specific conversation you are looking for. Perhaps I will pm you to get the answer to that question..... 🙂

 

[Coda]

I've never been in the chat room, but I'd sort of assumed by intuition that the original purpose was to explore the concepts behind the tickling interest with other people. Being relatively new to any public discussion about tickling or any fetish, one of my main aspirations is to educate myself about different people's interests... why some are ticklees, why some are ticklers, what initiated their enthusiasm for it, what fetishes go along with other fetishes, and so on. I imagine that if the people I actually talk with enjoy the same sort of exploration, we'll probably make friends too, which is always good. At the same time, I think it's almost certainly erroneous to assume that everyone will want that kind of conversation.

I imagine that any conversation would work best if it was established beforehand what the intentions of the participants were. I don't think there's <I>anything</I> wrong with repeatedly asking whether someone's feet are ticklish, as long as they've established that that's what they'd like their conversation to be. If they still manage to surprise the person they're talking with, then they can still just apologize and try to find somebody else. Likewise, there's nothing wrong with talking about day-to-day subjects either, and it seems like a good way to show your counterpart that you're a real person before you get specific.

 

[OnnaOtaku]

Let me reiterate that I and I am sure many other people are not opposed to talking about tickling. But, as Drew stated, sometime things are more suitable for private conversation. Drew made a very good post from both aspects of it. A lot of people may not be comfortable talking about such things publicly. After reading some of the crazy questions asked to me, I would be uncomfortable answering those to a group of people or even in general. For the most part, I really don't think it's anyones business how I get tickled, how I like to tickle, where, what I wear, etc. The only persons business it really is is mine and my husband.

It's not necessarily that no one wants to talk to you, daddy, about tickling, but it's the unfortunate hindrance given to males in the chat by males who just can't take no for an answer. It really is a shame though that so many bad apples give a majority of females a bad taste in their mouths about the guys. This may revert back to why I am more open and welcoming of people who I know and are friends with.

I kind of also think of the chat room as a doctor's office. The main area is like the lobby and then from there you go into a private area. You may not always want to share your reason for being there openly to everyone. Ya know?


Anyways, really, daddy, drop me a line and I'll chat with ya. You may wish you hadn't later, but that's just a temporary side effect! 😉

 

[TeeHeeLawrence]

And, oh, by the way...tickle, tickle...

I'm a long-time habitué of the Forum, but, until recently, I was only an occasional visitor to the Chat Room, and that was mostly for trivia on Sunday nights. I had the mistaken notion that in the Chat Room, folks were EXPECTED to talk tickling constantly, and, as avid a ticklephile as I am, I wasn't sure I could keep up.<p>
Well, I began making a habit of joining the chats in the late evening, and quickly became fond of the regulars I encountered there. It was often fun and thoughtful to chat, whatever the topic, and while tickle talk was an undercurrent, there was surprising diversity and considerable wordplay. <br> My pc "experiences" have been more like what I once thought the "public" Room was like. While I've had some very pleasant non-tkl chats there, more often than not, I find myself engaging, admittedly clumsily, in cyber tickling. Cyber tickling is not unlike tickling in real life in that, when you think about it, it's pretty silly. I've come away from some pc's embarrassed as hell. Some, though, have been, like those in the wider Room, playful and fun.<p>
I think the key to finding pleasure and interest in the Room is, not unlike the wider world, developing acquaintances and even friendships there. When I enter the Room, and find some of my faves to be there, well, if I hadn't felt so before, I feel chatty, whether the talk's tickling or not, whether in pc or "full view." I suspect that wouldn't be true if the Room was JUST for tickle chatting or cyber tickling. Oh, those can be fun, for sure, but I return to the Room at least as much, if not more, for the folks who are there.

 

[NeitherSparky]

I don't really use the chatroom here for basically the reasons Girls mentioned. To sum it up for me, there's a difference between talking about tickling, and being cybered, even if it's only "a little". I certainly don't mind talking about tk, even though I often don't know what to say about it due to my own lack of experience (and because I don't have any specific "fantasies" regarding tk, which every guy asks me about - its okay that you ask, but the truth is I *don't* have any, I'm not lying or trying to shun you when I say I don't). Anyone, if we've chatted about tk and I seemed hesitant to talk about it, it's really only because I always feel like such a newb (which I am despite my years). But what I dislike is someone saying that they're tickling me or otherwise roleplaying something (when we're not *specifically* in a roleplay situation). I mean, just in normal conversation, the guy saying "*gently strokes your sole*" or something. That...annoys me. I'm sorry. I mean, I'm a roleplayer, I'll rp a *scene* between fictional characters, but I don't like to mix casual, real-life conversation with little descriptions of how I'm being tickled. Because I'm *not* being tickled, it's *not* a roleplay situation. When I go into a chatroom to *chat* I don't want to roleplay. Period.

I'm not speaking for everyone! Just me, that's how I am. Of course I didn't even bring up how everytime I set foot (so to speak) in the chatroom a dozen guys want to private-chat me and ask where I'm ticklish and how much. Because y'all have already heard that from the other girls, and will continue to hear it from every other female who replies to this thread I'm sure. 😉

But anyways, I'll talk about tickling! I will! Just no cybering. Not even a little. If you want to tickle "me" you have to tickle one of my characters, in a roleplay environment. 😉 Which is not the chatroom here.

edit: By the way, regarding *not* talking about tk in the chatroom...is there anything wrong with that? I run a Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends fansite with a chatroom, and I can spend hours in the chatroom with my friends and often *nobody* brings up Foster's. It's just a place to hang out. We were brought together by our love for a show, but that doesn't mean we all have to talk about it all the time. It's like "Come for the food, stay for the atmosphere." I don't see why it couldn't be that way here too.

 

[tkrexx]

I try to attend trivia every Sunday, tho my ham-handed typing skills rarely allow me more than a point or two. Occasionally I pop in during other hours, usually when I'm d/l-ing something. I've made some good aquaintences, and found some Ladies that if I ever do attend a gathering, I've promised to tickle as far as I can. And some guys that I'm gonna have a beer or two with. There are also some very rude poeple. With a name like TkRexx, you'd think I wouldn't get many pc's popping up asking "Are you female?" or "Wanna chat dirty?" Mostly I simply prefer to stay in the main room rather than pc. Cyber tickling ain't my thing either, but I realize it is to some, so I won't malign it.

Then there are the bullies. The insulting punks who I believe go into the chat room for the specific purpose of degrading other people. And God help us, quite a few other folks rally around such punks, likely trying to spare themselves verbal cyber-abuse, or thinking that maybe "someday" their support might allow them to tickle said punk, if it happens to be female. Like Daddy, I've been involved in the tk community since long before the 'net (Gee I bet people get tired of hearing me say that!), indeed since before alot of folks here were born. I guess that should entitle me to be a pert of the room without having to tolerate such childishness. Alas, the powers that be often succumb to the subtle "charm" of the punks, and refuse to force them to fly right or take off. Thus mostly it's trivia for me these days. At least I can focus out the shitballs for that length of time.

 

[kilitiinko1]

There are some very rude people.

Then there are the bullies. The insulting punks who I believe go into the chat room for the specific purpose of degrading other people. And God help us, quite a few other folks rally around such punks, likely trying to spare themselves verbal cyber-abuse, or thinking that maybe "someday" their support might allow them to tickle said punk, if it happens to be female. Like Daddy, I've been involved in the tk community since long before the 'net (Gee I bet people get tired of hearing me say that!), indeed since before alot of folks here were born. I guess that should entitle me to be a part of the room without having to tolerate such childishness. Alas, the powers that be often succumb to the subtle "charm" of the punks, and refuse to force them to fly right or take off. Thus mostly it's trivia for me these days. At least I can focus out the shitballs for that length of time.

I`m glad to see that I`m not the only one who feels this way.Good observation,Tkrexx!

Unfortunately,Daddy,I think the persistent rudeness that is most often encountered by the ladies,tends to put them off to all talk of tickling.As soon as a woman makes note of anything tickling related,she is immediately bombarded by people wanting to pc/cyber.Even after a polite "no,thank you",the requests keep coming,until they inevitably turn to insults and nastiness.And this generally takes place in the main room! I can`t even imagine some of the PMs they must receive!

I honestly think that if you take the time to get to know people,be patient and polite,you`re chances of finding someone to chat with improve dramatically.Let people see you in chat behaving as a gentleman,and you will make friends,both male and female.

As a rule,I try to be polite and courteous with everyone I encounter in chat.I`m more than willing to talk tickling with anyone,as well as almost any other subject under the sun that comes up.Yes,some things do need to be taken to a private conversation,and I`m more than willing to do so.But as I try to treat others with respect,I would ask that they do the same for me as well.If I,for some reason,don`t care to comment on something,I`m not going to,no matter how insulting you get!

Anyways,enough of that! Who wants to chat? 😛

 

[ms.brightside]

The most common reasons I've heard from females I regulary talk to:

- All the guy wants to do is ask them about how ticklish their feet are--relentlessly. Ad nauseam.

- They don't want to cyber

- When they say "no thanks" to the above the guys turn into douchebags and/or get ugly.

I was speaking to someone in chat earlier this week and summed up my over all feelings/experiences this way:

For those of you that watched Friends, who recalls the episode about the free porn Joey and Chandler stumbled across on tv? All they did was sit there and watch it, for days. Remember how shocked they were when they went out into the real world, and women they met in passing didnt actually act like women in the porn films?

Same goes for the TMF chat in my opinion. I for one go into the chat to watch people visit, or strike up a convo with someone who can talk tickling, *and* about other things. I don't go in there because I want someone to IM me and start shoving their fantasies down my throat. After a while I feel like I should have gotten their credit card info because many men I chat with make the mistake of thinking that I want to hear what they want to do to me (a complete stranger). And it's very frusterating when the men get nasty about you not wanting to indulge them. I don't recall that being our job as TMF women...