Maggots?

[Headsnap]

I remember a while ago reading a post by iggy-pop about how all the men on the TMF seem to behave in a way that is geared towards making women think they're all sensitive and caring types who are really cuddly and sweet. I am also noticing something of a parallel to that in the form of hooked-up men who make posts in this here forum gushing about how wonderful their other halves are for allowing them to indulge their fetish. "Oh my girlfriend is so wonderful, she is kind and gracious enough to let me tickle her, spooge spooge spooge blurt blurt blurt etc." Wassup wid dat? If this was the Defenestration Media Forum I could understand there being some gratitude towards a spouse who allowed you to throw her out of a window in order to derive sexual pleasure, but it's not. It is the home of a community who enjoy what has to be one of the most harmless and tame paraphillias known to man, a paraphillia which most vanilla folks are, in my experience, more than willing to accept, purely because it's harmless and most of the time easily enjoyable by both parties.

To my mind this is the spectre of people unsure of their fetish rearing it's ugly head. What you have is a fetish, it is not leprosy. Yes, sometimes being open with people about things is hard, but that doesn't necessarily mean that everyone who accepts you for who you are or allows you to do weird sex stuff to them is your patron Saint. Come out of your shell a bit and you'll realise that the woman you're tickling isn't some silver goddess on a mountaintop who has dained to be touched by your unworthy mortal hands. She's just a human being like you, me, and everyone else, and being human she's probably either curious about your fetish or realises that the key to a healthy relationship is compromise in all things including the bedroom. Alternatively, if you're gushing because you feel bad that you're tickling her and don't feel she's getting anything in return, then find out what she likes and do it to it. Either that or put some petrol in her car. Women like men who fill up their fuel tanks, proven fact. Just please spare me the whole "I R B SO GREATFULL" routines.

 

[tkrexx]

Wow....Took me a few times reading this to actually digest it. Sorry you haven't spent the last 10 years with an Empress that has accepted you and your fetish. You apparently don't have an inkling what a joy it is. Posting something like what you describe is appreciation. I don't limit myself to vocalizing my appreciation to this board, I also annoy people every day with my deep, powerful feelings for my Wife. Yeah, she's just human, like me, but she's an exceptional human, and fulfilling her is more fulfilling to me than tickling. Never thought I'd say that. I honestly don't know what keeps her with me, but I pray I can continue doing it. For your sake, I hope you stumble upon a fine Woman who can change your outlook without you even realizing it until the deed is done. Until then, if you can't fathom the posts regarding appreciation and affirmation of love, please note the "Back" button should be located in the upper left corner of your screen.

 

[spotmanc]

I agree Rex. I have watched as my wife pretty much took my fantasy as her own and has grown into an even more diabolical tickler than I am. The hated beast that was tickling has been tamed by a loving woman who made it normal for me. She has come to enjoy being tickled a lot, but I'm sure it wasn't all that fun when I first started doing it (and all the time too, believe me) but after almost fifteen years tickling has become a cement in our relationship. It is our own special thing that only our friends in the community know about and neither of us could do without it now. For that, I will always be grateful to her for agreeing to become my full time 'lee.
But I am not grateful for her letting me tickle her. She agreed long ago that she has very little say in when, where, or how long she gets tickled.

SC

 

[ImNotDave]

So, in theory, youre saying that you HAVE soembody who allows you to act out your tickling fetish on them? and practically every partner/person you've told about it has been ok with it and alowed you to do it to them?

 

[Headsnap]

Wow....Took me a few times reading this to actually digest it.

And yet you still seem to somehow managed to have missed the point.

Sorry you haven't spent the last 10 years with an Empress that has accepted you and your fetish.

Don't be sorry, it's not your fault. And what's this about an Empress?...

You apparently don't have an inkling what a joy it is. Posting something like what you describe is appreciation. I don't limit myself to vocalizing my appreciation to this board, I also annoy people every day with my deep, powerful feelings for my Wife.

I wouldn't describe it as a "joy". It's nice being with someone willing to put up with your abnormal sexual desires, and it's even better being with someone who embraces them wholeheartedly, but joy is winning the lottery or experiencing a life-changing event. It's not some woman letting you tickle her, because if she doesn't there's always someone else who will.

Yeah, she's just human, like me, but she's an exceptional human, and fulfilling her is more fulfilling to me than tickling. Never thought I'd say that. I honestly don't know what keeps her with me, but I pray I can continue doing it.

It was about this point that I realised you were not only the type of fop who gushes about his missus because she indulges his fetish; you are also the type of fop who gushes about females in general. What keeps her with you? Give over, mate. Either she gets as much out of your relationship as you do or she wouldn't be in it, it's as simple as that, however the whole "Why do you love me?..." thread is not one I'd advise tugging at, because it can get messy. It's true, I've seen it.

NEXT!

I agree Rex. I have watched as my wife pretty much took my fantasy as her own and has grown into an even more diabolical tickler than I am. The hated beast that was tickling has been tamed by a loving woman who made it normal for me. She has come to enjoy being tickled a lot, but I'm sure it wasn't all that fun when I first started doing it (and all the time too, believe me) but after almost fifteen years tickling has become a cement in our relationship. It is our own special thing that only our friends in the community know about and neither of us could do without it now. For that, I will always be grateful to her for agreeing to become my full time 'lee.
But I am not grateful for her letting me tickle her. She agreed long ago that she has very little say in when, where, or how long she gets tickled.

Well done you! You have converted a woman to the fetish, I tip my hat to you. Not the way I usually find it works, but if your wife has any sisters let me know 😉

So, in theory, youre saying that you HAVE soembody who allows you to act out your tickling fetish on them? and practically every partner/person you've told about it has been ok with it and alowed you to do it to them?

If I'd wanted to say that I would have said it, wouldn't I? At the moment I am not with anyone, and I'd be lying if all the partners I've had had been as permissive of my kinks as I'd like them to be (I say "all", there aren't THAT many ^_^). The fact is some were, some weren't, and one girl actually stopped speaking to me altogether when I told her I had a fetish for tickling. The ones who did I appreciate, but my point is that relationships are about compromise and thus gabbling a load of poo about how marvellous she is is daft. It's a fetish, it's not leprosy. Some women can deal with it, some can't, and some actually have the fetish themselves. If they can't then fair enough, if they can then let them know they're appreciated but don't use it to open a post with in case you make yourself look a complete tart, and if they have the fetish themselves then for the love of Christ PM me their phone number 🙁

 

[chicago]

Sensitive guys make me nauseous anyway.

 

[Bugman]

It was about this point that I realised you were not only the type of fop who gushes about his missus because she indulges his fetish; you are also the type of fop who gushes about females in general

I know Rexx well enough to know that this is not true at all.

 

[tkrexx]

Sigh. Oh well, why not.

Move beyond the fetish, into real life. Yeah, I get to tickle her, and yeah, it's something special. I've tickled many, had relationships with many, but none have gotten to this level outside tickling with me. That is your true life-changing experience. Finding another like my Wife, well, I'd have a better chance of winning the lottery. So if I gush somewhat, hey Dude, I'm proud of her. But I'm gushing over so much more than the tickling, things I'm incapable of explaining here. As far as gushing over ALL women, heheh, you'll just hafta ask Kis123 about that!

"FOP??" lol Don't reckon I've ever been referred to as a "Fop"...I kinda like it!

 

[kis123]

Sigh. Oh well, why not.

Move beyond the fetish, into real life. Yeah, I get to tickle her, and yeah, it's something special. I've tickled many, had relationships with many, but none have gotten to this level outside tickling with me. That is your true life-changing experience. Finding another like my Wife, well, I'd have a better chance of winning the lottery. So if I gush somewhat, hey Dude, I'm proud of her. But I'm gushing over so much more than the tickling, things I'm incapable of explaining here. As far as gushing over ALL women, heheh, you'll just hafta ask Kis123 about that!

"FOP??" lol Don't reckon I've ever been referred to as a "Fop"...I kinda like it!

Good grief tkrexx, I was trying to stay out of this one! I've told you about giving an invitation and having to show up to the party! Darn you, I was planning to lurk out this one!

If men have women who will indulge their fetish, they know they have it good! As much as some view tickling a mild fetish, it's still a fethish and some women don't want to put themselves through what many consider as pure torture.

If there are men who found the woman who not only love them but will participate in something that makes them happy, why not give them props for it? I not only see nothing wrong with it, I could only wish that I could find a man who would indulge me; it's not as easy for women as many men think. Especially with a woman who has other issues that need to be addressed. My former SO did indulge me but other stuff got in the way and now I'm looking for someone who is more fitting to me in every way. I've met many men who will indulge me, but they're not relationship material.

I guess I can simply say that the door swings both ways and that women are strugglling with the tickling issues just like you are. I call them issues because I'm not consumed with the fetish aspects; I want a man who I can share this with, but it's not necessarily a deal-breaker either.

Tkrexx, you know I owe you one.......... 😀

 

[tkrexx]

Am I that transparent???

 

[Headsnap]

As much as some view tickling a mild fetish, it's still a fethish and some women don't want to put themselves through what many consider as pure torture.

That's the thing though; who, apart from maggots and dooberries, considers being tickled "torture"? To me, torture consists of being wired to car batteries by the jaw or slapped around with a wet blanket whilst white noise is pumped into your room. Tickling is a silly, fun, intimate thing, it's not frigging torture despite what the purveyors of art and fiction in the respective forums would have us believe. As I said, I know some girls who've liked being tickled and some who haven't, but even the ones who haven't didn't necessarily consider it torture, they just didn't like it. I suppose if your man has a total domination "I R B GOD!" bondage and tickling fetish which is all about them getting theirs and making their partner uncomfortable I could understand why they'd be grateful to women for putting up with that shit, but to me it's like foreplay, so in my eyes you're sitting there gushing with gratitude because your woman likes foreplay, which is not something to be grateful for if you think about it because I believe most women enjoy foreplay.

I'd also like to take this opportunity to cry and whinge about respected members of "t3h community" trolling up my thread with off-topic sillyness. I would respectfully ask you, if you have nothing to add to the discussion, to refrain from replying, and I would also like to reiterate the rule of YCTAT. Please. Think of the kids before you hit that reply button.

Thanks. YHBT, HAND! 🙂

 

[tklgal226]

Maybe no one is getting arrested for 'torturing' others into their way of thinking, but I have to disagree with you -- in our sense, tickling can be torture. And I don't mean it in an "oh honey, but I want to see Titanic again, not Terminator -- I know how I'll get my way" type fashion, but when taken to the level some of us (myself included) imagine it to be, then yes, it really can be.

No, it isn't exactly along the same lines as practices involving car batteries or knives or guns or machetes....but this is more a psychological issue more than anything else. It's not always fun, and it's not always likeable. Those who know me know that I'm something of a control freak and have a somewhat dominant personality. But I've made "sacrifices" for others, and others have done the same for me (I'm bringing up a situation where neither person is a 'lee).

When you're not actually a submissive, I'm not gonna lie -- giving up your pride & control is REALLY hard to do. But, if you love someone, you only want to make them happy, so the "sacrifice" doesn't seem like such a big deal. Now, I'm not saying that I want them to worship me for doing this, but seriously - are you suggesting we should be expected to make those compromises w/o any thanks? Or, rather, shouldn't feel incredibly grateful that they're doing something for our benefit (and our benefit alone)?

I understand you don't think it's a big deal, but to....well, me....it IS. If my hardwired 'ler turned himself over to a Dom for a few hours, you'd better believe I'd be walking on sunshine. And isn't this the place to rant and rave and celebrate these occurrences? Sure, I can show my vanilla friends the flowers he brought me, but I can't be like, "And he allowed himself to be tickled to tears for almost an hour for me -- isn't he the sweetest?!" I see this forum as the place to vent about stuff like this - most of us can't click up our heels in the vanilla world about this sorta thing.

Personally speaking, allowing yourself to be tired up and tickled for an extended period of time IS a sacrifice -- and the idea of just expecting someone to do that or not see their compromise as a big deal is ridiculous. Of course they should be positively acknowledged for it - they're doing this for YOU, not for their health.

Maybe my experiences and feelings about the subject are the exception rather than the rule, but it is what it is 😱

 

[kis123]

That's the thing though; who, apart from maggots and dooberries, considers being tickled "torture"? To me, torture consists of being wired to car batteries by the jaw or slapped around with a wet blanket whilst white noise is pumped into your room. Tickling is a silly, fun, intimate thing, it's not frigging torture despite what the purveyors of art and fiction in the respective forums would have us believe. As I said, I know some girls who've liked being tickled and some who haven't, but even the ones who haven't didn't necessarily consider it torture, they just didn't like it. I suppose if your man has a total domination "I R B GOD!" bondage and tickling fetish which is all about them getting theirs and making their partner uncomfortable I could understand why they'd be grateful to women for putting up with that shit, but to me it's like foreplay, so in my eyes you're sitting there gushing with gratitude because your woman likes foreplay, which is not something to be grateful for if you think about it because I believe most women enjoy foreplay.

I'd also like to take this opportunity to cry and whinge about respected members of "t3h community" trolling up my thread with off-topic sillyness. I would respectfully ask you, if you have nothing to add to the discussion, to refrain from replying, and I would also like to reiterate the rule of YCTAT. Please. Think of the kids before you hit that reply button.

Thanks. YHBT, HAND! 🙂

Are you telling me that tickling isn't really torture? That's interesting because I know many who would disagree with you. There are plenty of women and men who hate to be tickled; many have either converted or learned to tolerate in the name of indulging their partner. For those who do that, that's what's called a sacrifice or compromise. You're certainly entitled to your opinion and hopefully you realize that there will be plenty who don't share it with you.

The men who are glad they have tickle partners, friends, or spouses in their lives have them for a reason. Usually the ones who bellyache about it are the ones who don't.

 

[kis123]

Maybe no one is getting arrested for 'torturing' others into their way of thinking, but I have to disagree with you -- in our sense, tickling can be torture. And I don't mean it in an "oh honey, but I want to see Titanic again, not Terminator -- I know how I'll get my way" type fashion, but when taken to the level some of us (myself included) imagine it to be, then yes, it really can be.

No, it isn't exactly along the same lines as practices involving car batteries or knives or guns or machetes....but this is more a psychological issue more than anything else. It's not always fun, and it's not always likeable. Those who know me know that I'm something of a control freak and have a somewhat dominant personality. But I've made "sacrifices" for others, and others have done the same for me (I'm bringing up a situation where neither person is a 'lee).

When you're not actually a submissive, I'm not gonna lie -- giving up your pride & control is REALLY hard to do. But, if you love someone, you only want to make them happy, so the "sacrifice" doesn't seem like such a big deal. Now, I'm not saying that I want them to worship me for doing this, but seriously - are you suggesting we should be expected to make those compromises w/o any thanks? Or, rather, shouldn't feel incredibly grateful that they're doing something for our benefit (and our benefit alone)?

I understand you don't think it's a big deal, but to....well, me....it IS. If my hardwired 'ler turned himself over to a Dom for a few hours, you'd better believe I'd be walking on sunshine. And isn't this the place to rant and rave and celebrate these occurrences? Sure, I can show my vanilla friends the flowers he brought me, but I can't be like, "And he allowed himself to be tickled to tears for almost an hour for me -- isn't he the sweetest?!" I see this forum as the place to vent about stuff like this - most of us can't click up our heels in the vanilla world about this sorta thing.

Personally speaking, allowing yourself to be tired up and tickled for an extended period of time IS a sacrifice -- and the idea of just expecting someone to do that or not see their compromise as a big deal is ridiculous. Of course they should be positively acknowledged for it - they're doing this for YOU, not for their health.

Maybe my experiences and feelings about the subject are the exception rather than the rule, but it is what it is 😱

You're not the exception by any means and I agree with your post 1000%. As people respond to this thread, it's going to become glaringly apparent who the exception really is.

 

[kis123]

Am I that transparent???

Let's just say that saran wrap is more opaque!

Well I better move on before I get in trouble for trolling up the OP's thread with off-topic silliness..............

 

[Mike_The_Lee]

I remember a while ago reading a post by iggy-pop about how all the men on the TMF seem to behave in a way that is geared towards making women think they're all sensitive and caring types who are really cuddly and sweet. I am also noticing something of a parallel to that in the form of hooked-up men who make posts in this here forum gushing about how wonderful their other halves are for allowing them to indulge their fetish. "Oh my girlfriend is so wonderful, she is kind and gracious enough to let me tickle her, spooge spooge spooge blurt blurt blurt etc." Wassup wid dat? If this was the Defenestration Media Forum I could understand there being some gratitude towards a spouse who allowed you to throw her out of a window in order to derive sexual pleasure, but it's not. It is the home of a community who enjoy what has to be one of the most harmless and tame paraphillias known to man, a paraphillia which most vanilla folks are, in my experience, more than willing to accept, purely because it's harmless and most of the time easily enjoyable by both parties.

To my mind this is the spectre of people unsure of their fetish rearing it's ugly head. What you have is a fetish, it is not leprosy. Yes, sometimes being open with people about things is hard, but that doesn't necessarily mean that everyone who accepts you for who you are or allows you to do weird sex stuff to them is your patron Saint. Come out of your shell a bit and you'll realise that the woman you're tickling isn't some silver goddess on a mountaintop who has dained to be touched by your unworthy mortal hands. She's just a human being like you, me, and everyone else, and being human she's probably either curious about your fetish or realises that the key to a healthy relationship is compromise in all things including the bedroom. Alternatively, if you're gushing because you feel bad that you're tickling her and don't feel she's getting anything in return, then find out what she likes and do it to it. Either that or put some petrol in her car. Women like men who fill up their fuel tanks, proven fact. Just please spare me the whole "I R B SO GREATFULL" routines.

this has nothing to do with your comment....i jus love that lil icon u got at the bottom on your post lmao classic

 

[911]

If I find woman who lets me tickle her I'm going to be damn greatful hell if I find a woman who lets me do anything to her I'd be greatful. Some poeple are so ungreatful for what they have they don't diserve it, so when a man comes on and says he's greatful for having a woman at all, as a man who's never had a woman it's good to hear. Yes some people overexagerate how great there spouse is but I guess a spouse is like a child, I know people who say they have the smartest, cutest baby is probably full of shit what they have is a drooling creature that looks like every other baby out there, but to the parent that baby is that great.

 

[Headsnap]

Now, I'm not saying that I want them to worship me for doing this, but seriously - are you suggesting we should be expected to make those compromises w/o any thanks? Or, rather, shouldn't feel incredibly grateful that they're doing something for our benefit (and our benefit alone)?

I'm not saying that at all. What I'm saying is that relationships are built around compromise, and therefore if someone compromises for you, wether it be letting you tickle them or learning not to leave dirty plates and cups lying around the house, they're not actually doing anything massively spectacular. They're making the relationship work. Wow, what a hero eh? Well no, not really. An example: the biggest problem I tend to have in sexual relationships is that I don't go down on women. I have something of a cunnilingus phobia stemming from a particularly disgusting incident in my youth, but that doesn't mean that I'm totally barring myself from ever doing it. If lack of head ever becomes an issue in a relationship I'll gird my loins and do my duty to the very best of my ability. I won't enjoy it and chances are she won't either, but I'll make the effort anyhow. That's called "compromise". Sometimes it's a bit shit, but it's got to be done.

As for who the real exception is, I don't think I'm the only person here who doesn't feel the need to wank myself into unconsciousness every time a girlfriend puts one over herself for me. As long as she knows it's appreciated that's good enough for me.

Yes some people overexagerate how great there spouse is but I guess a spouse is like a child, I know people who say they have the smartest, cutest baby is probably full of shit what they have is a drooling creature that looks like every other baby out there, but to the parent that baby is that great

I agree with this analogy for it amuses me.

 

[EvenSteven]

Natural fit

To me there is no point in making a concession to another person's fetish. i am mostly a 'lee so i savor the sensation of being tickled, but i only really enjoy it when i know that the Lady who is tickling me is a genuine "ler, deriving true pleasure from "torturing" me. There is no sacrifice involved. It has has to be a mutual, natural fit. Also, i agree that a pair must be compatible in their everyday relationship becuase a shared fetish, even a very strong one, is not enough.

 

[SilverHealer84]

I can contest with the comment that tickling can't possibly be physical and/or emotional torture for someone. Just because 'you' don't think it isn't doesn't mean it's true for everyone, because it's horrible torture for me unless it's someone I completely trust...and even then, I have to be in a good mood. Otherwise, it's no better than molestation in my eyes.

Nope, I'm *not* saying that that's the way and the truth for everyone, though! That's just how I am and how my emotions are...I have to be fully willing to throw my body to the vulture (erm, ok, that's not a good comparision at all, LOL) with that much trust. It's my body, dangit!

Sensitive guys rock!!! I hate insensitive males, too many of them out there.