Manny and Papi Tested Postitive in 2003 - NYT

[SamuelKhan]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4366335

Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz were among the 104 major league players listed as having tested positive for performance-enhancing substances in 2003, lawyers with knowledge of the results told The New York Times.

The two were key members of the Boston Red Sox World Series championship teams in 2004 and 2007.

The lawyers did not name the substances Ramirez and Ortiz tested positive for, The Times reported.

On Thursday in Boston, when Ortiz was asked about the 2003 drug test, he told The Times: "I'm not talking about that anymore," he said. "I have no comment."

Los Angeles Angels center fielder Torii Hunter, a longtime friend of Ortiz's, said he was shocked by the report.

This hit me hard, but then after the shock wave lessened, I realized this comes as no shock at all. Papi would be one of the last people to juice up.

If baseball hasn't fallen down the steps any further, the basement is just down the next flight of steps.

Bad news.

 

[The Fallen Angel]

only player that will suprise me anymore is Griffey Jr

 

[SamuelKhan]

I only pray Albert Pujols is clean.

 

[unit5610]

It seems as though this 2003 testing was a voluntary thing that was to be anonymous and strictly for use by Major League Baseball. We'll see how willing the players are to volunteer on any other occasion now that this has been let out 5 years after the fact.

 

[Skinfan87]

They gotta release this full list.

You know...I've said it before and I've said it again, the players association have done more damage to themselves than any other group and the owners and front office people did nothing in the early to mid 90's, and got totally rich off of the HR chase in 1998. It's so amazing that we were willing to turn a blind eye to the fact that McGwire was taking Andro THEN, even when it was legal, it was still performance enhancing. Now when a person that is on this list is caught, in a year when this was all still perfectly legal, we immediately tear him down. I don't think its fair to these players, sure they deserve the criticism, but I still think that Donald Fehr should shoulder most of if not all the blame for the reasons the players are so widely villified now.

 

[Adam]

That entire era of baseball is severely tainted. I wish we could get every last dirty player out of the game that I have loved since I was a child.