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Marty Noble On Mets.Com-Glavine May Not Return To Mets in 2007

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I just read an article on Mets.com, by respected beat writer Marty Noble, which stated that it is possible that Tom Glavine may not return to the Mets in 2007.
According to Noble, and I quote:" Glavine will see how the season plays out, and the playoffs, and then decide which city he wants the road to number 300 to be through".
Glavine is currently 13 wins shy of 300, so he wont get there this year. One had always assumed that with only one more year to get to 300, he would go back to the Mets. That having been said..
If baseball was not solely about economics, Glavine should do one thing, and one thing only: Call Braves GM John Scherholtz, bury the hatchet, and return to Atlanta for whatever the Braves can afford to pay him, to win number 300 in Atlanta. Glavine has made over 40 million dollars just in the years from 2003 to 2006, not counting what he made in the 1990s. He is probably set for life, and doesnt need the money. The man won 242 games, 11 division championships, and the most important game in Braves history, Game 6, of the 1995 World Series, in Atlanta. Imagine how it would be to have him win number 300 there.
That being said, looking at the Braves situation, this is unlikely to happen. They have Mike Hampton, a much younger lefty, coming back next year from Tommy John surgery. They still have John Smoltz, and Tim Hudson. Horacio Ramirez will be a free agent, as will John Thomson. Thomson likely is gone, with his last two injury plagued seasons, and maybe Ramirez is too.
If baseball wasnt solely about money, this would be a great scenario. I doubt it is going to happen, though. My bet is that Glavine hangs on one more year at Shea, and wins number 300 in New York, the same place Phil Niekro did, after winning 268 games with the Braves. Hopefully, when he makes the Hall of Fame, Glavine should, and will, go in wearing a Braves cap.

Mitch
 
Tom Glavine should go into the Hall of Fame as an Atlanta Brave. But something about that article confuses me. Earlier this year, the Mets reworked Tommy's contract so he would return next year. Or at least I thought he did.
 
Seems to me from what I've heard lately, he might be done for the year with a shoulder injury

Don't Mets fans wish they made a deal for a pitcher now, don't they??

The Mets are no longer the runaway choice in the NL. It's the Dodgers pennant to lose
 
A more interesting question for Glavine is that this is a serious injury. If it is career ending, he finishes his career with a record of 287 wins, and 190 losses, short of 300 wins. In this scenario, does Glavine then miss the Hall of Fame?
At present, Glavine has comparable career numbers to that of former Yankees, Dodgers, and Angels southpaw Tommy John, who pitched in the big leagues from 1963 to 1989, and finished his career with a record of 288 wins, and 231 losses, and a career ERA of 3.34, very respectable numbers. Yet, Mr John is not in the Hall of Fame. Granted, John didnt win two Cy Young awards like Glavine did, or 12 division titles, like Glavine will when the Mets clinch this year. Hopefully for Glavine's sake, and the Mets sake, this injury is not career ending. However, if it is, one has to question if Glavine makes the Hall with his final numbers. If he does, then one has to wonder why Tommy John isnt in the Hall of Fame, and that he probably belongs. If Glavine doesnt make it to the Hall, assuming this is the end for him, then we see that even pitchers with long and prosperous careers like Glavine and John, will not make it, if they fall short of 300 wins.
Glavine is a battler. I have watched him for 20 years, being a Braves fan, since he first broke in with them. Like Tommy John, who also had a career threatening injury, had ligament transplant surgery, and pitched 13 years after that, and revolutionized surgery, so that pitchers like John Smoltz can come back following a transplant, if I know Glavine, he will be back, to battle his way through, and get to 300 wins.
It will be interesting to see what happens here. This is most unfortunate for Glavine, especially since he is finally on a fine Mets team, and will make the playoffs for the first time in four years.

Mitch
 
natural tickler said:
Seems to me from what I've heard lately, he might be done for the year with a shoulder injury

Don't Mets fans wish they made a deal for a pitcher now, don't they??

The Mets are no longer the runaway choice in the NL. It's the Dodgers pennant to lose
Please!!! The only thing a Cub fan knows is losing. If you want to know anything about winning you have to ask another fan because almost all the other fans have won something since 1908. :imouttahe
 
ticklingfeet4fu said:
Please!!! The only thing a Cub fan knows is losing. If you want to know anything about winning you have to ask another fan because almost all the other fans have won something since 1908. :imouttahe


Yeah, you better run

Brave words spoken from a screen

I told you long ago they needed another arm, but refused to go get one. And that will be the difference when the Mets lose. You cannot outslug everyone. Sooner or later you have to pitch
 
natural tickler said:
Yeah, you better run

Brave words spoken from a screen

I told you long ago they needed another arm, but refused to go get one. And that will be the difference when the Mets lose. You cannot outslug everyone. Sooner or later you have to pitch
Listen dude!!! Do me a favor, when your team wins before you die, then you can converse. Until then keep rooting on your Kerry Wood. Sooner or later, he will pitch without going on the DL. Maybe before his beer-league softball career starts. 😛
 
ticklingfeet4fu said:
Listen dude!!! Do me a favor, when your team wins before you die, then you can converse. Until then keep rooting on your Kerry Wood. Sooner or later, he will pitch without going on the DL. Maybe before his beer-league softball career starts. 😛


listen scribe, I can converse whether my team wins or not. understand?? i don't recall needing permission from you to discuss anything. I told you you needed ptiching, your GM failed to give it, and now you will lose because of it.

besides, the Mets haven't won in 20 years, so I wouldn't be acting high and mighty if I were you
 
natural tickler said:
listen scribe, I can converse whether my team wins or not. understand?? i don't recall needing permission from you to discuss anything. I told you you needed ptiching, your GM failed to give it, and now you will lose because of it.

besides, the Mets haven't won in 20 years, so I wouldn't be acting high and mighty if I were you
And you haven't won in 98 years. Looking to make it 99. So try hard to watch and listen. As far as GM's failing. I guess we can call the Cubs a sucess over the last 98 years???
 
I would like to think if the trading deadline is coming around, and I have a glaring need to fill, and I let the opportunity pass me by without doing anything, then what do you call it??? I would hardly call it success

Theo Epstein did nothing, and it will cost him, just like Omar Minaya

Don't worry, sometime in October we can watch the playoffs together 😛
 
natural tickler said:
I would like to think if the trading deadline is coming around, and I have a glaring need to fill, and I let the opportunity pass me by without doing anything, then what do you call it??? I would hardly call it success

Theo Epstein did nothing, and it will cost him, just like Omar Minaya

Don't worry, sometime in October we can watch the playoffs together 😛
How is it going to cost him??? Glavine will be back next week. The Mets have 4 starters in Martinez ( who will be back which is more than I can say for Kerry Wood ), Glavine, Hernandez and Trachsel ( whom you can laugh at but is 12-5 and lead the Cubs to the playoffs in 1998.) I am confident that this team can beat anybody except for Detroit because the Tigers have the best pitching staff in baseball. Funny how you changed your tune on Boston. Three weeks ago, you were telling me how the Tigers or the Mets couldn't compete with them and Theo has cost them. By the way, what did Omar cost the Mets, they are going to the playoffs. They are the BEST team in the NL and should make a World Series appearance barring a complete collapse.
 
natural tickler said:
The Mets?? Best team in the NL???

one thing to say about that:

:blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh:

what are you laughing for? look at the standings buddy. Mets 75-48, STL 66-57, LA Dodgers 66-59... and just for laughs, CHI Cubs 53-71. now you tell me who the best team is. thats what i thought. and dont try to tell me that the Mets have weak division. the only reason that the other NL east teams records are so bad is because the Mets beat up on them all the time. Glavine is fine and our OF situation is being rectified once the Green transaction is aproved. also the playoff rotation is gonna be fine... Pedro,Glav,Tracks,Duke,Maine/Bannister/Pelfrey. stop hating on the 'Mets just because they are finally having some success.
 
natural tickler said:
The Mets?? Best team in the NL???

one thing to say about that:

:blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh:
And just how many Championships has your Cubs won since 1908???

You know the Mets brought back their 1986 team to honor them for winning 20 years ago. The only way the Cubs could honor their last championship is if they went to a cemetry. Or if they decided to dig them all up.. Now that is funny NT. By the way, who is the best team in the NL NT??? We know we can eliminate that sorry team from the Northside of Chicago. :shock:
 
4u, the Mets are very good, and will win the NL East in a walk. However, just remember that the playoffs is a crap shoot. Everyone starts zero and zero. Glavine's health is questionable, and so is Pedro's. Personally, with their talent, and the acquistions they've picked up lately, they can probably get to the World Series. Once there, it will be very interesting to see if they can knock off the likes of the Yankees, or Detroit. Right now, the Yankees are very strong, in both hitting, and pitching, and the Tigers have been strong all season, especially in the pitching department.
My honest call. Subway Series in 2006, with the Yankees prevailing, in either 6, or 7, games, primarially because of the home field advantage, and the fact that so many of these Yankees have World Series experience. It should be a great series if subway does happen, considering the fact that you have Glavine, who pitched in five World Series with Atlanta in the 1990s, and Pedro, who won it all with Boston in 2004. I still say, Yankees will win. As we all know, however, they dont play baseball games on paper, so one never knows if the Mets could squeeze in there, and be the champions of baseball for 2006.

Mitch
 
Mitch, a Subway Series could go either way. they split the season series. they each won their respective home series 2/3 so they are 3-3 against one another. i am not sayin that either team is a lock. take the last subway series as an example. it was Mike Piazza's Wild Card Mets (94-68) against the AL 3rd place Yankees (87-74). the Yanks actually had the worst record of all the AL Playoff teams and the Mets almost won the div.

Part of me wants the Mets to play the Padres at some point in the playoffs this yr just to see the fans' reactions to Mike this time around. i kno mine would be mixed. i would never boo him but no more standing o's for a HR... lol. the fact is that if they dont see SD in the post season, he may have played his last games at Shea.
 
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