Massaging the feet of another man's woman, moral or immoral?

[Mephistopheles]

In my opinion that depends on the matter of what you're getting out of it.

 

[Marquis De Sade]

In my opinion that depends on the matter of what you're getting out of it.

This. Plus what the person asking is getting out of it too.

 

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[Deadsea7777]

Hey guys,

I was thinking lately about whether or not giving another guys chick a foot massage was, .... well right. I mean I generally feel that a dude giving a woman a foot massage is pretty intimate, though not necessarily sexual. However I do think that it crosses some boundaries. What do you guys think?

Forget about the specific example Curious, the broad question behind your question is:
Is it right to give/receive intense physical pleasure from a person in a closed relationship?
Feet massages, a kiss....is never just a kiss...or is it?
The only answer is the one of the sophist philosopher Protagoras: Is it cold or warm the air?....well it is cold for those who feel it cold and it is warm for those that feel it warm.

You better be sure that the three feel the same either cold or warm, about the feet massage before swim in those waters, because it is sexual for those that feel it sexual and it is just rubbing for those who think is just rubbing.

 

[rhiannon]

Is it right to give/receive intense physical pleasure from a person in a closed relationship?

The question is: how intense is the physical pleasure from a foot massage?

I went to a massage therapist before and had a foot massage, and neither me nor my husband thought that to be very immoral. 🙂

 

[Deadsea7777]

The question is: how intense is the physical pleasure from a foot massage?

I went to a massage therapist before and had a foot massage, and neither me nor my husband thought that to be very immoral. 🙂

There you go, the three of you were OK with it, so who cares?. The air was warm for the three of you. The morality or immorality of receiving physical pleasure from another person would only exist if the act of receiving/giving the pleasure in question would represent breaking a pre-existing contract of exclusivity...like a monogamous relationship or even sometimes an implicit contract of exclusivity like the one that may exist in a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship. If there were no exclusivity explicit or implicit no contract or agreement has been broken so no moral issues to be worry about.

 

[rhiannon]

Actually what makes the difference is that is may be physical pleasure, but not SEXUAL pleasure. If the therapist or I got sexual pleasure out of it, it would have been a whole different story.

I doubt anyone would mind if their significant other got a massage from a therapist - might be different if it is someone else though!

 

[Deadsea7777]

Actually what makes the difference is that is may be physical pleasure, but not SEXUAL pleasure. If the therapist or I got sexual pleasure out of it, it would have been a whole different story.

I doubt anyone would mind if their significant other got a massage from a therapist - might be different if it is someone else though!

So what broke the contract for you (i.e., "makes the difference") is that the physical pleasure received from your therapist has to be sexual. In other words you are allowed, or have the "permission" (i.e., no contract broken), to receive physical pleasure (even so intense) from your therapist as long as it is not sexual.

Fair enough, but still subjective, it still leaves the whole question of what "sexual" is to be solved, which has no universal clear cut answer (think of tickling). It simply rephrases the original question of feet massages, into: is it sexual or is not?. And still it is sexual for those who feel it is sexual and is not for those who feel is not. So it is of no help for the question posed by Curious.

There are two examples, I knew of, which I would consider, no trouble at all and clear cut. One was a male rescuer massaging the feet of a woman trapped under rubble after an earthquake in Italy. Only her left foot was free, and caressing it helped to avoid her to panic. The second is a girl with pulmonary fibrosis, that received a double transplant. Her sisters used to caress and massage her feet to help to cope with waiting for a donor.

I do not think anybody (husband, boyfriend) could be angry or jealous because of those feet massages. It would be so plain evident that no fool play or foreplay is going around that no possible doubt could exist. Nevertheless the examples are so extreme (but real, from Reader Digest) that do not help the original question posed by Curious at all.

 

[ticklishfeet976]

if any guy wer to try andplay or massage with my girlfriends feet id beat his ass. to me its the same thing as massaging her chest

 

[jonsmith]

I don't think it's immoral, contexts aside. I give lots of people foot massages, sometimes their boyfriends come up while I'm doing it. I just look them in the eye and keep working. rofflemowe.

 

[dskodj]

if your someone like myself with a foot and tickle fetish or doing it for sexual satisfaction for yourself or the woman involved - immoral

if your a pro massuse doing it for therapy - moral

 

[rhiannon]

Fair enough, but still subjective, it still leaves the whole question of what "sexual" is to be solved, which has no universal clear cut answer (think of tickling). It simply rephrases the original question of feet massages, into: is it sexual or is not?. And still it is sexual for those who feel it is sexual and is not for those who feel is not. So it is of no help for the question posed by Curious.

There you go, that's the question, are feet massages sexual or not. And here is your answer: for some people they are, for some they aren't. If they are, immoral. And here's how you tell if they are sexual:

hard dick/panties wet = sexual = immoral (unless sexual interaction with other people is alright in your relationship)

 

[Deadsea7777]

There you go, that's the question, are feet massages sexual or not. And here is your answer: for some people they are, for some they aren't. If they are, immoral. And here's how you tell if they are sexual:

hard dick/panties wet = sexual = immoral (unless sexual interaction with other people is alright in your relationship)

Still subjective, "hard dick" means excitation, but not necessary sexual excitation (think the hanging man), however, having said that; your criteria is good enough. You win. Is nice fencing with you.

 

[Smackerman]

Let's say your a guy who has no real interest in feet, and your buddy is cool with you giving his girlfriend the foot massage she asked for. You give her the massage and she enjoys it. That particular scenario is morally sound.

Let's change the scenario a bit. You've got a voracious foot fetish. So much so that if it came down to tits or feet, you'd choose the feet. Neither your buddy nor his girlfriend know this, and he invites your to have at it. At this point you are thinking, "Jackpot!" and you start massaging those soft, beautifully shaped, well pedicured feet and she thanks you when you're done.

Now this scenario is....STILL MORALLY SOUND! Why? Because as somebody said, the only opinions that matter are those of the buddy and his girlfriend. In both scenarios, neither objected to the foot massage. Sure, the foot fetish guy in the second scenario got some major excitement, but that doesn't make him immoral.

 

[rhiannon]

Now this scenario is....STILL MORALLY SOUND! Why? Because as somebody said, the only opinions that matter are those of the buddy and his girlfriend. In both scenarios, neither objected to the foot massage. Sure, the foot fetish guy in the second scenario got some major excitement, but that doesn't make him immoral.

The question here is, would they have let him do it if they KNEW he was getting off on it? If no, then it is morally questionable, imho. Their opinions are not based on reality.

Still subjective, "hard dick" means excitation, but not necessary sexual excitation (think the hanging man), however, having said that; your criteria is good enough. You win. Is nice fencing with you.

Thank you, same goes for you. 😉