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Negativity on the Forum

Aeveirra said:
Some people were nice and seemed interested, but there were a lot of people who acted exactly just like you said:
"undercutting, undermining, embarrassing, humiliating, discouraging, negating"
**** Seriously - each and every one of those words, are exactly what so many people did to me. It was so upsetting. I didn't know what I did wrong.

~~~~ They didn't even "argue" against my ideas; instead just claiming:
"your making all this shit up". They basically tried to make me look like some lying moron. NONE of them actually cared about my background in the medical field, because they kept calling my knowledge on the subject into question. Others pretended like they were the experts, and claimed everything I said was just wrong and illegitimate, because "reasons".

I made about 3-4 of these types of posts over the course of a few months. But it was worse each time, and people got meaner. The only thing I got out of it, was feeling more upset with each new thread.
I had to delete a lot of comments on them, because SO many replies were just unnecessarily disrespectful and hurtful.
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~~~ But now, it's gotten to the point where I've completely given up on trying to continue with those sort of posts. I don't want to talk about the science of tickling anymore, because it seems like no one actually cares for learning about it.
They'd rather just degrade and ridicule me for no reason whatsoever.
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Very familiar to me. I can understand you.
It was pretty much the same when I tried to post about my experience and research on tickle therapy and the positive effect that tickling can give. I was surprised to get so many negative responses instead of at least curiosity.

Don't think however that no one cares. Actually there are many who are interested in tickling science, not only me 🙂 These people usually don't post as much as those who want to make you look like a liar. Just don't take them seriously.
At first this made me a little upset and even angry. I started arguing, but then understood that I was making a mistake. There's no reason to be angry. You can't stop some people from seeing just what they want to see. So I accept their opinion and leave them with it. No negativity as a result.
Better to concentrate on those who are interested in your research.
 
Maybe that's why Albert Einstein's hair was white! lol! The constant, HEATED debates that go hand in hand in proving theories.

Aeveirra, TickleTherapist, I enjoy your writings, research and overall enjoyment and excitement in even trying to help people. Whether you're right or wrong... I choose to believe in your work. CHOOSE. Some people choose the opposite. And that is there right. But... it's become easier somehow for people to forget theres a human being on the other side of the screen. That I NEVER forget... even if the person is Catfishing... there's a reason people act as they do... and rather than get upset... I step back and try to look at the bigger picture of the persons anger or mocking... or whatever they are saying. Why it might be coming out as it does.

There's a lot of guilt that comes with this fetish... and if it is perceived that someone might be using the fetish to further their own personal goals... or even accidentally give false findings....people I think get overly protective of this beloved fetish of ours and would rather show how wrong you are by publicly and verbally hanging you than remember to have a civilized debate. I myself have been less than sugary in my home, when I have perceived negative judgement surrounding Tickling. Sometimes I feel I have been correct. Sometimes... I was wrong. But my emotions overrided any critical thinking I could have done. Now... I just realize my listening skills need work. To stay calm... As I am too close to the subject itself to be always fair and level headed.

Now... here's a theory of my own. You know how intensely we sexual the words associated with tickling... when you pair our favorite words with other words that are in direct opposition to each other... it would make sense that the body and mind go into complete shut down ... causing anger, defensiveness, denial, and the metaphor of "cutting someone off at the limbs". Meaning... stopping the monster before it hurts anyone else. If we were robots we could spit out the facts... and ONLY the facts left and right. But we are human beings. And that will always get in the way of presenting... or accepting facts. We love this SO much. I mean... you could present a theory... hand out free Doritos and be as gentle with what you are about to say as one could be... but... critical thinking is lacking... and overly thinking is part of what comes with this. We were all too young to be sexualized with such a thing. But it happened. There's no way to go back in time and put it off until our teenage years at least. So... we also might be judging things like these subjects from a very young perspective. It's difficult to grow young feelings into adult feelings. Just like so many view Star Wars... they feel young again... happy... and will voraciously defend the "did Hans Solo shoot first" scene. My Bf is a fan and omg... what I have seen online over THAT... *whistles*. I myself am a huge KISS fan... I had to leave discussion groups about them because people will be so ugly towards one another... just over their favorite albums!! Or the removal of their makeup... or replacing band members. Holy mackerel take a finger walk over to THOSE forums... it's anything but pretty.

So sometimes it's best just to say "Well, I guess we have to agree to disagree." And leave it at that. Because until we all develop the skills to be a bit more relaxed about how we debate these subjects...how we talk to others about this... theorize and such...this will keep going as the constant. And it's unhealthy. We all have to release our guilt... our pain... our fear of being judged. Or else these feelings will keep attacking people when there is absolutely no reason to.

We are ALL in the same boat whether we have the fetish ourselves or a loved one is introduced to it through us, or going on a date and introducing this to someone new. And as we are all in the same boat... if we keeping putting bucket after bucket of water INTO the boat... rather than OUT... we are going to DROWN... Drown in MISERY and CONTEMPT.

So everyone BREATH... take a step back... and try to think about the bigger picture of someone's life and approach to the subject before you rail against then. No H8.
 
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I just thought of another example of our situation.

Does anyone remember a book (later turned into a movie) called "The Mist" By Stephen King?

If you don't know this you can use The Walking Dead as your frame of reference. Spoilers ahead!

On a normal day we read/view a scene of people shopping in a Supermarket. And suddenly the day turns dark... a mist rolls into town. And everyone is having a hard time seeing as they drive... and come in. Soon the lights go out. This is normal right? But soon out of the mist come MONSTERS. And these people find themselves in a situation where they have no frame of reference to go on. It's MONSTERS!!! "REAL LIFE MONSTERS". Now... there's probably 20 people in the store. And they can't leave. Not only that. They have to fight off the monsters from coming in. Not only THAT... they have to deal with each other. Some are extremely religious... some have angry tempermants. Some have children. Some are sick. Some are so scared they're willing to do anything to get out of the store. And because of all these different personalities... and different levels of fear..,everyone sort of branches off into different groups. Some are loners too. Now the one thing they share is fear. But some people take their fear WAY too far and rather than keep discussing what it is they need to do survive... someone opens a door... someone else is losing their mind and takes out her anger and fear against the group. Causing all kinds of unnecessary havoc. Out of fear people do things without assessing the situation properly to avoid worse things happening.

That's what's happening here. We are in our own lil supermarket. The lights are off... and we THINK we see monsters. And they're actually might be some monsters out there. But how we fight the perceived and real monsters... depends on all of us staying calm, rational, and working together for the benefit of the group's survival. The doors WILL open eventually... and the mist and all of its monsters will fade away.
It just takes time to sort out each and everyone's position from their perspective.

And don't even get me started on Black Friday as an example... for 10-40% off retail price people are willing to knock each other down... step on people... slam each other around... for a sale on a tv... or a pretty carpet. Don't be like that...
 
To be fair, I'd be skeptical of any scientist that claims homosexuality is a mental disorder.

Aeveirra said:
I would say accepting gay marriage, and accepting fetishes are two totally differnt things.
Homosexuality is a brain disorder, fetishes are psychosexual anchors.
Tickling is probably one of the best fetishes to have. (I may be a little bias cus it is badly my only one) but, I mean ink about it. It is not gross, violent, dangerous, or involves expensive toys. In most cases, people I know thought it was just "cute". Granted.theres a ton of kinky bondage stuff you can incorporate with tickling, but by itself, it is really pretty mild across the board.
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http://ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?227099-Being-accepted-with-the-fetish&p=3899823#post3899823
 
If someone makes a claim of what they've seen or experienced personally, that's one thing.
Making a claim that something is a scientific fact is another.
It's common for people to ask for citations or data to support the claim.
 
I think there's enough lies on this site without making shit up from some place of authority on the subject. To me, fakes and bullshit just exacerbate the negativity here.
 
Well.. after thinking about it I'm going to follow my own advice and not add more hot water to the boat. Except to say...I am Bisexual and it's NOT a disorder. And if it was... I certainly wouldn't cure it. 🙂 The end.
 
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CapturedDoll said:
And if was... I certainly wouldn't cure it. 🙂 The end.
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It's the only thing that matters 🙂
Definitions and interpretations just often cause misunderstanding.

I know that's a dangerous topic to touch. We just can't argue that by nature women are intended to make love to men for mankind to survive. That's obvious.
What we can call homosexuality then? What's a disorder and what's not - it's very subjective and just depends on who makes that decision.

For example, Wolf, as you talk about Christian nation and Jesus in your signature, if you are a true Christian than you have to call homosexuality abomination.
(Coincidentally, just a few hours ago I've watched the episode of Game of Thrones where religious fanatics break into a brothel and kill homosexuals for their "sins". Horrible scene)
I don't call it any of that. For me it's just personal choice of every person. To be who she or he wants to be.
 
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Wow, this thread is still going?

xionking said:
Peeps seem to feel obligated to tell this Rectangle guy how he should be, rather than accepting of who he is.
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No.
I was being a dick.
People were very politely and sympathetically telling me I probably needed to calm down.
I was a dick some more.
Rage quit.
Went to bed, woke up, apologized to the forum, took a day or two away and now I'm back, and hopefully I haven't lost friends.

When you find everyone around you disagreeing with you, you're usually either very right, or very wrong.
I wasn't right.

Trying to take the calmer road and keep in mind these are people I'm talking to and not empty usernames on a screen.

Shit's settled though, right?

Edit: See, watch, not even going to jump into the debate over whether or not homosexuality is a brain disorder. (It's not).
Progress already.

 
Hello,

Captured Doll, I have not seen The Mist, but I have a good idea of how the movie went now. Since none of us really know anything with 100% certainty, a calumny against what anyone else says is just that. I wish I were bi sexual, it would double my chances for a date on Saturday night. Going back to the topic of negativity, I think this thread is showing some real headway.

As for the folks who exhibit troll like behavior consciously or otherwise, there is usually something deeper and personal going on. In the end, I personally draw the line on personal attacks. If one does not feed troll like behavior, it eventually vanishes. There was a point in there somewhere.

Thanks,

K
 
tickletherapist said:
It's the only thing that matters 🙂
Definitions and interpretations just often cause misunderstanding.

I know that's a dangerous topic to touch. We just can't argue that by nature women are intended to make love to men for mankind to survive. That's obvious.
What we can call homosexuality then? What's a disorder and what's not - it's very subjective and just depends on who makes that decision.

For example, Wolf, as you talk about Christian nation and Jesus in your signature, if you are a true Christian than you have to call homosexuality abomination.
(Coincidentally, just a few hours ago I've watched the episode of Game of Thrones where religious fanatics break into a brothel and kill homosexuals for their "sins". Horrible scene)
I don't call it any of that. For me it's just personal choice of every person. To be who she or he wants to be.
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No, 'brain disorder' has a very specific meaning, especially when coming from a 'scientist.'

Medicine
a disruption of normal physical or mental functions; a disease or abnormal condition.
plural noun: disorders
"eating disorders"
synonyms: disease, infection, complaint, condition, affliction, malady, sickness, illness, ailment, infirmity, irregularity
"a blood disorder"

And let's not start telling people how to worship or follow their religion. Homosexuality hasn't been classified as a disorder since the 70s

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual

The social, medical and legal approach to homosexuality ultimately led for its inclusion in the first and second publications of the American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM). This served to conceptualize homosexuality as a mental disorder and further stigmatize homosexuality in society. However, the evolution in scientific study and empirical data from Kinsey, Evelyn Hooker and others confronted these beliefs, and by the 1970s psychiatrists and psychologists were radically altering their views on homosexuality. Tests such as the Rorschach, Thematic Apperception Test (TAT) and the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory (MMPI) indicated that homosexual men and women were not distinguishable from heterosexual men and women in functioning. These studies failed to support the previous assumptions that family dynamics, trauma and gender identity were factors in the development of sexual orientation. In light of the overwhelming data, as well as changing social norms, the Board of Directors for the American Psychiatric Association removed homosexuality as a mental disorder from the DSM in 1973.[6]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_and_psychology#Alfred_Kinsey
 
chicago said:
No, 'brain disorder' has a very specific meaning, especially when coming from a 'scientist.'

Medicine
a disruption of normal physical or mental functions; a disease or abnormal condition.
plural noun: disorders
"eating disorders"
synonyms: disease, infection, complaint, condition, affliction, malady, sickness, illness, ailment, infirmity, irregularity
"a blood disorder"

And let's not start telling people how to worship or follow their religion. Homosexuality hasn't been classified as a disorder since the 70s



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_and_psychology#Alfred_Kinsey
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Agree. It's definitely not with this medical definition. I never said it was myself.

Ok, I'm actually not telling how to do this or that. Just reminding of what are the Christian truths, some of them are very specific as in medical definitions. No offence meant. It's just facts.
 
tickletherapist said:
Agree. It's definitely not with this medical definition. I never said it was myself.

Ok, I'm actually not telling how to do this or that. Just reminding of what are the Christian truths, some of them are very specific as in medical definitions. No offence meant. It's just facts.
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Well, not every one is a Christian, I hate to break the news to you. And when you start confusing "Christian truths" with scientific fact......that's when some may break out a little of the ole "negativity on the Forum", lol. And who could blame them?

No one needs to be "reminded of Christian truths" here. That's why we have a Politics & RELIGION Forum.

I'm all for hobbyists and amateur researchers posting their "findings" and am happy to humor them and enjoy their posts. But never confuse it with peer reviewed scientific research and experiments with strict controls. If you do, don't be surprised when people respond with skepticism.
 
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Careful guys. This thread seems to have righted itself, which is pretty rare once a thread starts to go downhill. Perhaps we should save the moral/religious discussion for another thread. Just my two cents.
 
Cosmo_ac said:
Careful guys. This thread seems to have righted itself, which is pretty rare once a thread starts to go downhill. Perhaps we should save the moral/religious discussion for another thread. Just my two cents.
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Agreed, and I just edited my comment a bit and toned it down. See how you help me, Cosmo?! 🙂
 
The Internet said:
I'm all for hobbyists and amateur researchers posting their "findings" and am happy to humor them and enjoy their posts. But never confuse it with peer reviewed scientific research and experiments with strict controls. If you do, don't be surprised when people respond with skepticism.
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BOOM! Right there! See this? This is the guy!
 
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