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FlockOfSeagulls

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It is fairly certain that the Bears 10-2; Cowboys 8-4; Seahawks 8-4; and the Saints at 8-4 will make the playoffs . What other 2 teams have the best shot to pick up the last spots???

I think the Panthers still make it but have no idea who other team will be.
 
I hope the Giants don't make it but I think they will. If they lose to the Panthers next week they'll likely be number 6. The only other team who will have a shot is Atlanta and I doubt they'll put together enough wins to get in.
 
Pretty much I think it comes down to three teams going for the 6th spot (lets say the Panthers are the 5th seed).

Falcons
Giants
Rams

...and I say probably in that order aswell.

Priest
 
I don't know, but this conference sucks. The AFC has a lot more quality teams.
 
Who cares??? The AFC will pounce on whoever represents ( if that is what you want to call it ) the NFC. You might want to send your best representive though, the Packers. :jester:
 
ticklingfeet4fu said:
Who cares??? The AFC will pounce on whoever represents ( if that is what you want to call it ) the NFC. You might want to send your best representive though, the Packers. :jester:

Not if they play America's Team, the Dallas Cowboys. Dallas can beat anyone in the league.
 
Tickle_Fiend05 said:
Not if they play America's Team, the Dallas Cowboys. Dallas can beat anyone in the league.
America's Garbage??? They will be disposed. Don't get to cocky fiend. This is only your second trip to the playoffs in the last six years. Don't get full of yourself. You are likely to crash and burn.
 
ticklingfeet4fu said:
America's Garbage??? They will be disposed. Don't get to cocky fiend. This is only your second trip to the playoffs in the last six years. Don't get full of yourself. You are likely to crash and burn.

I'm not cocky, I'm confident. The Cowboys can beat any team in the league. And why exactly are they likely to crash and burn? Just wondering.
 
Tickle_Fiend05 said:
I'm not cocky, I'm confident. The Cowboys can beat any team in the league. And why exactly are they likely to crash and burn? Just wondering.
Because you basically have a first year QB. You know he is not going to not lose a game Fiend. He will have bad moments. I think Romo has been GREAT for your team. But he has won 5 games. Let's not make him a 20 time Super Bowl Champion and a Hall of Famer yet. Every team must grow. Learn to win in the playoffs then set your sights high. If you notice, I am still not bragging about the Jets. Yet they are tied with 4 other teams for the fifth and sixth spot in the playoffs. The Jets have an easy schedule down the stretch where they can easily go 3-1 and make the playoffs at 10-6. Just relax. Romo is a fantastic QB. He has a BRIGHT future. But don't make them Super Bowl Champions before they have even clinched a playoff spot. And let them grow into it. It is not a bad thing to take steps.
 
ticklingfeet4fu said:
Because you basically have a first year QB. You know he is not going to not lose a game Fiend. He will have bad moments. I think Romo has been GREAT for your team. But he has won 5 games. Let's not make him a 20 time Super Bowl Champion and a Hall of Famer yet. Every team must grow. Learn to win in the playoffs then set your sights high. If you notice, I am still not bragging about the Jets. Yet they are tied with 4 other teams for the fifth and sixth spot in the playoffs. The Jets have an easy schedule down the stretch where they can easily go 3-1 and make the playoffs at 10-6. Just relax. Romo is a fantastic QB. He has a BRIGHT future. But don't make them Super Bowl Champions before they have even clinched a playoff spot. And let them grow into it. It is not a bad thing to take steps.

I'm not making Romo into anything except Tony Romo. So far there's no reason for me to think he will keep the Cowboys from winning a game. Romo and the rest of the Cowboys are growing and have been growing all season. I expect them to do well and bring home another championship. This team has a lot of talent and lack of playoff experience will not hold them back. And I think the Jets are not a bad team, just not good enough to do anything in the playoffs. They're good enough to beat the bad teams, which is why they are in contention for the playoffs, but I don't think they'll beat any of the top teams in the AFC.
 
Tickle_Fiend05 said:
I'm not making Romo into anything except Tony Romo. So far there's no reason for me to think he will keep the Cowboys from winning a game. Romo and the rest of the Cowboys are growing and have been growing all season. I expect them to do well and bring home another championship. This team has a lot of talent and lack of playoff experience will not hold them back. And I think the Jets are not a bad team, just not good enough to do anything in the playoffs. They're good enough to beat the bad teams, which is why they are in contention for the playoffs, but I don't think they'll beat any of the top teams in the AFC.
Let's see, they have beaten New England who has been a top team in this league for the last six years. They were competive in losses to the Bears and the Colts ( a game the Jets probably should have won by all accounts ). I am looking at the Cowboys schedule and saying who other than the Colts is a quality opponent??? All teams you have beaten are right now 6-6 or worse except for the Colts. You played Tennessee and Houston and Arizona all 5-7 or worse. Carolina 6-6 and the Giants are 6-6. You beat Washington who is 4-8. So give me the team that other than the Colts that you have beaten that are not bad teams. The Cowboys have been ONLY good enough to beat bad teams also. As far as your team growing, do you think that the Jets have stopped growing??? They have a young coach. A young offensive line and a still growing defense who has had ONLY one awful game. So before you put your team on a pedalistal and knock my team into the dirt remember our teams mirror one another. Our coach is basically your coach only 30 years younger. If you wonder what I mean, Belicheck was Parcells assistant for MANY YEARS and Mangini was Belicheck's assistant for many years. They are all cut from the same cloth. So remember that the next time you think that the Jets can't beat the top teams in the AFC because with the teams that are in the NFC your team is getting a free ride. If you were in the AFC you would not be having the same kind of season. You would probably be at 7-5 like the Jets.
 
ticklingfeet4fu said:
Let's see, they have beaten New England who has been a top team in this league for the last six years. They were competive in losses to the Bears and the Colts ( a game the Jets probably should have won by all accounts ). I am looking at the Cowboys schedule and saying who other than the Colts is a quality opponent??? All teams you have beaten are right now 6-6 or worse except for the Colts. You played Tennessee and Houston and Arizona all 5-7 or worse. Carolina 6-6 and the Giants are 6-6. You beat Washington who is 4-8. So give me the team that other than the Colts that you have beaten that are not bad teams. The Cowboys have been ONLY good enough to beat bad teams also. As far as your team growing, do you think that the Jets have stopped growing??? They have a young coach. A young offensive line and a still growing defense who has had ONLY one awful game. So before you put your team on a pedalistal and knock my team into the dirt remember our teams mirror one another. Our coach is basically your coach only 30 years younger. If you wonder what I mean, Belicheck was Parcells assistant for MANY YEARS and Mangini was Belicheck's assistant for many years. They are all cut from the same cloth. So remember that the next time you think that the Jets can't beat the top teams in the AFC because with the teams that are in the NFC your team is getting a free ride. If you were in the AFC you would not be having the same kind of season. You would probably be at 7-5 like the Jets.

I finally have figured it out. YOU don`t actually hate the Cowboys; You actually are a HUGE Cowboys fan. The problem is since you are originally from NY that all your buds up there would tear you up if they really knew you loved the COWBOYS!!! So deny all you like; the GIG is up my friend. Protest all you like ; bottom line is you are a huge Cowboys fan= deal with it!!!!
 
FlockOfSeagulls said:
I finally have figured it out. YOU don`t actually hate the Cowboys; You actually are a HUGE Cowboys fan. The problem is since you are originally from NY that all your buds up there would tear you up if they really knew you loved the COWBOYS!!! So deny all you like; the GIG is up my friend. Protest all you like ; bottom line is you are a huge Cowboys fan= deal with it!!!!
I would root on cancer to take my life in a slow agonizing death before I would actually be America's Garbage fan. Deal with the fact that you have no clue who I am. Don't tell me I am a fan of someone when you have no clue who I am.
 
ticklingfeet4fu said:
Let's see, they have beaten New England who has been a top team in this league for the last six years. They were competive in losses to the Bears and the Colts ( a game the Jets probably should have won by all accounts ). I am looking at the Cowboys schedule and saying who other than the Colts is a quality opponent??? All teams you have beaten are right now 6-6 or worse except for the Colts. You played Tennessee and Houston and Arizona all 5-7 or worse. Carolina 6-6 and the Giants are 6-6. You beat Washington who is 4-8. So give me the team that other than the Colts that you have beaten that are not bad teams. The Cowboys have been ONLY good enough to beat bad teams also. As far as your team growing, do you think that the Jets have stopped growing??? They have a young coach. A young offensive line and a still growing defense who has had ONLY one awful game. So before you put your team on a pedalistal and knock my team into the dirt remember our teams mirror one another. Our coach is basically your coach only 30 years younger. If you wonder what I mean, Belicheck was Parcells assistant for MANY YEARS and Mangini was Belicheck's assistant for many years. They are all cut from the same cloth. So remember that the next time you think that the Jets can't beat the top teams in the AFC because with the teams that are in the NFC your team is getting a free ride. If you were in the AFC you would not be having the same kind of season. You would probably be at 7-5 like the Jets.

I think the Cowboys beating the previously unbeaten Colts count as a team who isn't bad. I also think beating NY and Carolina, who are not bad teams, were great wins. The Cowboys aren't the ones getting shutout by good teams. And it's not like the Cowboys didn't have a chance to win the games they lost also. The difference between the Cowboys and the Jets is that the 'Boys can beat any team in the league.
 
Tickle_Fiend05 said:
I think the Cowboys beating the previously unbeaten Colts count as a team who isn't bad. I also think beating NY and Carolina, who are not bad teams, were great wins. The Cowboys aren't the ones getting shutout by good teams. And it's not like the Cowboys didn't have a chance to win the games they lost also. The difference between the Cowboys and the Jets is that the 'Boys can beat any team in the league.
Really!!! The Cowshits can beat any team??? Then how come Cowpoop isn't 12-0??? They lost to Washington who is 4-8. They lost to the Giants who are 6-6. They lost to the Eagles who are 6-6 and they lost to Jacksonville who is 7-5. You have ONE good win in the Colts. THAT IS IT!!! You can't beat any team in the league because you are 8-4. Which tells me you have lost to four teams in this league. Your loses to teams with a combined record of 23-25 .479. Your wins are against teams with a combine record of 41-55 which is a .427 winning percentage. So your 8 wins come from teams that average a 5-7 record. The Jets 7 wins are against teams that are a combine 34-50. Which again averages out to a 5-7 record. But the Jets have had a tougher schedule than Dallas to this point. The Jets combine total of loses are 40-20 which is a .667 opponent record. Your teams opponents record is 64-80 which is a .444 winning percentage. The Jets schedule has combine for a 74-70 record and a .514 winning percentage. Please don't tell me that the Cowpoops have played a better or tougher schedule or can beat anyone because you haven't proved it yet. The Jets based on winning percentage have played a schedule that is about 20 tougher than your schedule. Since your team has 16 games UNDER .500 and the Jets are 4 games OVER .500 equaling 20 games tougher.
 
ticklingfeet4fu said:
Really!!! The Cowshits can beat any team??? Then how come Cowpoop isn't 12-0??? They lost to Washington who is 4-8. They lost to the Giants who are 6-6. They lost to the Eagles who are 6-6 and they lost to Jacksonville who is 7-5. You have ONE good win in the Colts. THAT IS IT!!! You can't beat any team in the league because you are 8-4. Which tells me you have lost to four teams in this league. Your loses to teams with a combined record of 23-25 .479. Your wins are against teams with a combine record of 41-55 which is a .427 winning percentage. So your 8 wins come from teams that average a 5-7 record. The Jets 7 wins are against teams that are a combine 34-50. Which again averages out to a 5-7 record. But the Jets have had a tougher schedule than Dallas to this point. The Jets combine total of loses are 40-20 which is a .667 opponent record. Your teams opponents record is 64-80 which is a .444 winning percentage. The Jets schedule has combine for a 74-70 record and a .514 winning percentage. Please don't tell me that the Cowpoops have played a better or tougher schedule or can beat anyone because you haven't proved it yet. The Jets based on winning percentage have played a schedule that is about 20 tougher than your schedule. Since your team has 16 games UNDER .500 and the Jets are 4 games OVER .500 equaling 20 games tougher.

The Cowboys can't control what their opponents do unless they are playing the Cowboys. The records of the teams that the Cowboys have faced is not the Cowboys' problem. Also, the fact that the Cowboys lost to four teams doesn't mean that they can't beat any team in the league. They lost to those teams but they had chances to beat them. The Cowboys as a whole are playing well and I think that any football fan, when looking at this from an unbiased POV, can realize that the Cowboys are better than the Jets and have a great chance of playing in the Super Bowl.
 
Tickle_Fiend05 said:
The Cowboys can't control what their opponents do unless they are playing the Cowboys. The records of the teams that the Cowboys have faced is not the Cowboys' problem. Also, the fact that the Cowboys lost to four teams doesn't mean that they can't beat any team in the league. They lost to those teams but they had chances to beat them. The Cowboys as a whole are playing well and I think that any football fan, when looking at this from an unbiased POV, can realize that the Cowboys are better than the Jets and have a great chance of playing in the Super Bowl.
You unbiased??? That is a laugh. You give NO team credit but your own. Finding excuses why your team lost as opposed to sitting there saying that they aren't that good. Every Dallas loss you go into hiding. That is an unchanged fact. Myself, the fact is, I never came into this season thinking that the Jets weren't going to win more than five games. So with that said, I am pleasantly surprised. I make no excuses for their failures and I don't flaunt their triumphs. I don't start threads telling people that the Jets won one game. How many threads have been started after over the last two years when they won a game??? Heck you guys had a playoff thread started last year. But did they go to the playoffs??? I wonder :blaugh:. The fans remember only what they choose to remember. I remember nearly everything. I don't take a biase point of view. I just isn't my nature.
 
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ticklingfeet4fu said:
You unbiased??? That is a laugh. You give NO team credit but your own. Finding excuses why your team lost as opposed to sitting there saying that they aren't that good. Every Dallas loss you go into hiding. That is an unchanged fact. Myself, the fact is, I never came into this season thinking that the Jets weren't going to win more than five games. So with that said, I am pleasantly surprised. I make no excuses for their failures and I don't flaunt their triumphs. I don't start threads telling people that the Jets won one game. How many threads have been started after over the last two years when they won a game??? Heck you guys had a playoff thread started last year. But did they go to the playoffs??? I wonder :blaugh:. The fans remember only what they choose to remember. I remember nearly everything. I don't take a biase point of view. I just isn't my nature.

I would think that name calling would fall under that classification. When the Cowboys lose I don't go into "hiding." I'm on here all the time and if anyone says anything about America's Team I respond. I don't come on here and gloat whenever that happens but, I have started a thread or two about a win. There have been plenty of threads started by fans of other teams, more than any by a Cowboys fan. It doesn't bother me if someone wants to let everyone know that they are proud of their teams accomplishments. Finally, I never made any excuses for a loss. All I've said is that the Cowboys could have won them. It's not an excuse, it's a factual statement. I'm not saying that the teams that won didn't deserve to win.
 
Tickle_Fiend05 said:
I would think that name calling would fall under that classification. When the Cowboys lose I don't go into "hiding." I'm on here all the time and if anyone says anything about America's Team I respond. I don't come on here and gloat whenever that happens but, I have started a thread or two about a win. There have been plenty of threads started by fans of other teams, more than any by a Cowboys fan. It doesn't bother me if someone wants to let everyone know that they are proud of their teams accomplishments. Finally, I never made any excuses for a loss. All I've said is that the Cowboys could have won them. It's not an excuse, it's a factual statement. I'm not saying that the teams that won didn't deserve to win.
Only you would think that I direct those comments squarely at you. I NEVER said you. Is it a bit of a guilty conscience??? I would hope not. I actually like you. I think you are a good fan. Still a wee bit wet behind the ears but you are a good fan. As far saying that the Dallas team could have won them, I feel that since there was only one game we got blasted in ( as you keep reminding me ) we could have won them all as well. We could easily be 11-1. That is a fact. The Indianapolis game we were lead in the final minute of the game. The Bears proved to me they aren't that good when the beat the Jets. New England beat us by a touchdown and we were driving in the final moments of that game and Cleveland we had no business losing to that team and didn't get the right call ( that is fact as well as the NFL apologized to the Jets for being wrong on that call ) in the endzone. Though my feelings on the Jets that day was they DID NOT DESERVE TO WIN. Now if I am so biased why would I make such a statement. I said it then when they lost the game and one of the Jets fans started a thread that we got screwed. I told him then we deserved to lose. I am VERY objective and show no biase to my team. If they stink, I will let you know before the scent hit your nose.
 
ticklingfeet4fu said:
Only you would think that I direct those comments squarely at you. I NEVER said you. Is it a bit of a guilty conscience??? I would hope not. I actually like you. I think you are a good fan. Still a wee bit wet behind the ears but you are a good fan. As far saying that the Dallas team could have won them, I feel that since there was only one game we got blasted in ( as you keep reminding me ) we could have won them all as well. We could easily be 11-1. That is a fact. The Indianapolis game we were lead in the final minute of the game. The Bears proved to me they aren't that good when the beat the Jets. New England beat us by a touchdown and we were driving in the final moments of that game and Cleveland we had no business losing to that team and didn't get the right call ( that is fact as well as the NFL apologized to the Jets for being wrong on that call ) in the endzone. Though my feelings on the Jets that day was they DID NOT DESERVE TO WIN. Now if I am so biased why would I make such a statement. I said it then when they lost the game and one of the Jets fans started a thread that we got screwed. I told him then we deserved to lose. I am VERY objective and show no biase to my team. If they stink, I will let you know before the scent hit your nose.

If the Bears proved they weren't that good when they beat the Jets then what did it prove about the Jets? They got shutout.
 
Tickle_Fiend05 said:
If the Bears proved they weren't that good when they beat the Jets then what did it prove about the Jets? They got shutout.
Just because a team got shutout Fiend does not mean they played a bad game. Pennington threw two costly interceptions in the red zone. The Jets were carrying the Bears up and down the field all afternoon. Look at the stats. They tell the story. The Bears had only one good offensive play that got them 47 yards through the air. They could run the ball well either. So before you sit there and tell me what did it prove about the Jets watch the games. I watch every game. I don't look at the final score only. The final score only tells you parts of the story. When you watch the games it tells you the WHOLE story. So the Jets got shutout!!! And yet your team still plays a WEAK schedule in a WEAK division inside of a WEAK conference. Let Dallas represent the NFC in the Super Bowl against any AFC team and Dallas will go down and that includes the Jets.
 
ticklingfeet4fu said:
Just because a team got shutout Fiend does not mean they played a bad game. Pennington threw two costly interceptions in the red zone. The Jets were carrying the Bears up and down the field all afternoon. Look at the stats. They tell the story. The Bears had only one good offensive play that got them 47 yards through the air. They could run the ball well either. So before you sit there and tell me what did it prove about the Jets watch the games. I watch every game. I don't look at the final score only. The final score only tells you parts of the story. When you watch the games it tells you the WHOLE story. So the Jets got shutout!!! And yet your team still plays a WEAK schedule in a WEAK division inside of a WEAK conference. Let Dallas represent the NFC in the Super Bowl against any AFC team and Dallas will go down and that includes the Jets.

Hahahahahahahahahaha!!! How can a Jets fan talk about anyone having a weak schedule? The Cowboys have played some sorry teams, as every team has, but they've also played some good ones. And the Cowboys can beat any team that the AFC has to offer and I'm not even going to worry about the Jets getting anywhere near the Super Bowl. They'll be gone by round one if they make it.
 
Tickle_Fiend05 said:
Hahahahahahahahahaha!!! How can a Jets fan talk about anyone having a weak schedule? The Cowboys have played some sorry teams, as every team has, but they've also played some good ones. And the Cowboys can beat any team that the AFC has to offer and I'm not even going to worry about the Jets getting anywhere near the Super Bowl. They'll be gone by round one if they make it.
Once again, I remind you that the Jets opponents record is 74-70. The Cowgirls opponents record is 64-80. So your schedule is weak. Have you played the Bears??? NOPE!!! Have you played the Patriots twice??? NOPE!!! The teams with winning records you have played is Indianapolis and Jacksonville. Every other team is .500 or under. Our schedule is MUCH tougher than yours. That is a fact!!! Besides Dallas won't be in the Super Bowl anyway. Besides I seem to recall the last two times Dallas went to the playoffs they got beat by Carolina and Arizona ( back in 1999 ) in the first round. How do you lose to Arizona in the playoffs??? I guess that is a question only Dallas fans can answer. :evilha:
 
ticklingfeet4fu said:
Once again, I remind you that the Jets opponents record is 74-70. The Cowgirls opponents record is 64-80. So your schedule is weak. Have you played the Bears??? NOPE!!! Have you played the Patriots twice??? NOPE!!! The teams with winning records you have played is Indianapolis and Jacksonville. Every other team is .500 or under. Our schedule is MUCH tougher than yours. That is a fact!!! Besides Dallas won't be in the Super Bowl anyway. Besides I seem to recall the last two times Dallas went to the playoffs they got beat by Carolina and Arizona ( back in 1999 ) in the first round. How do you lose to Arizona in the playoffs??? I guess that is a question only Dallas fans can answer. :evilha:

Well I guess if Arizona was in the playoffs then that must mean they were good that year. You see the present day Cardinals and ask this question but this was eight years ago. A 5-11 team doesn't make it to the playoffs. What happened to the Cowboys in the past has no effect on America's Team today. The only players left over from then are Greg Ellis and Flozell Adams. Fact of the matter is that the Cowboys have a good team that can make a run at getting to Miami.

You are right about the Jets schedule. It is very tough. You guys have 11 games vs. teams under .500. Your record against the teams with winning records? 1-4. The Cowboys have 7 games vs. teams under .500. The Cowboys are 3-3 with teams at over above .500. The Cowboys are able to show their dominace over teams with losing records by beating them 17 or more. The Jets beat these teams but they don't do it as convincing as America's Team. No one is choosing the Jets to go to the playoffs because of their talent. The only reason they have a shot is because of their schedule. The Cowboys, on the other hand, are a very talented team on both offense and defense.
 
Tickle_Fiend05 said:
Well I guess if Arizona was in the playoffs then that must mean they were good that year. You see the present day Cardinals and ask this question but this was eight years ago. A 5-11 team doesn't make it to the playoffs. What happened to the Cowboys in the past has no effect on America's Team today. The only players left over from then are Greg Ellis and Flozell Adams. Fact of the matter is that the Cowboys have a good team that can make a run at getting to Miami.

You are right about the Jets schedule. It is very tough. You guys have 11 games vs. teams under .500. Your record against the teams with winning records? 1-4. The Cowboys have 7 games vs. teams under .500. The Cowboys are 3-3 with teams at over above .500. The Cowboys are able to show their dominace over teams with losing records by beating them 17 or more. The Jets beat these teams but they don't do it as convincing as America's Team. No one is choosing the Jets to go to the playoffs because of their talent. The only reason they have a shot is because of their schedule. The Cowboys, on the other hand, are a very talented team on both offense and defense.
You are not 3-3 versus teams over .500 because there are only 2 teams that are presently over .500. So to say that you are 3-3 is impossible. As far as convincing, Look at New England. They are always involved in close games. Over the last six years the Patriots have won maybe 8 games by 17 points or more. Margin of victory means nothing. In fact, that was a very immature way of looking at it. Last I knew, if you win by 1 point or 21 points it always counts as a win. Teams that are involved in close games usually end up better for it. Because MOST playoff games are close. If you are involved in games that are blowouts you usually do not know how to win close games because the team doesn't have the stomach for it. The fact that the Jets are playing close games means that they are mentally a tough team. They will not make the big mistake ( ie: penalties in big spots ) because they foundamentally sound in those situations. Dallas will still continue to make their mistakes via penalties because it is the way they play the game. Does that make any sense to you??? Ask Natural ( who is the BIGGEST Dallas fan I know ) if what I am saying makes any sense. And Natural since you are entertained by what Fiend and I are discussing chime in and let fiend know if what I am saying makes sense. So win those games over the losing teams by 17 or more. Means nothing come playoff time.
 
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