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Noah's Ark found?

Well, seeing is believing. And I'm waiting for the pictures myself...
 
I though the headline was pretty intriguing until I saw this story which basically says these claims come up every few years and are more in line with "for profit" proof of ancient alien claims than serious archeology.
 
Seems pretty doubtful. Not only is there no physical evidence of a worldwide flood, but there's no reliable record of it happening. And by "reliable record" I mean some credible historical description other than the Bible.

That means that, if it happened, it happened before the beginning of recorded history (when people were using stone tools and the most ambitious boats were rafts or hollow logs). Somehow we're supposed to believe that a culture that hadn't even begun writing things down had developed shipbuilding to the point that one man's family could build a boat capable of holding samples of every living thing and riding out the greatest storm in human history.

But OK, set that aside for now. Even so, that means that that wooden vessel has sat exposed to the elements for at least 12,000 years (since we know that sites like Damascus have been continuously occupied for at least that long), and yet it is still recognizable as wood.

No, the only way anyone could believe something like that is if they really, really need to.
 
TonyInA Throat said:
I though the headline was pretty intriguing until I saw this story which basically says these claims come up every few years and are more in line with "for profit" proof of ancient alien claims than serious archeology.
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Yeah Tony, these stories have been popping up for years.

RedMage said:
Seems pretty doubtful. Not only is there no physical evidence of a worldwide flood, but there's no reliable record of it happening. And by "reliable record" I mean some credible historical description other than the Bible.

That means that, if it happened, it happened before the beginning of recorded history (when people were using stone tools and the most ambitious boats were rafts or hollow logs). Somehow we're supposed to believe that a culture that hadn't even begun writing things down had developed shipbuilding to the point that one man's family could build a boat capable of holding samples of every living thing and riding out the greatest storm in human history.

But OK, set that aside for now. Even so, that means that that wooden vessel has sat exposed to the elements for at least 12,000 years (since we know that sites like Damascus have been continuously occupied for at least that long), and yet it is still recognizable as wood.

No, the only way anyone could believe something like that is if they really, really need to.
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That's what I'm thinking. And even today, could someone build a ship that size out of nothing but wood? I'm not an engineer, but it seems unlikley.

Eh, just thought it was an intresting article.
 
Haha, ok, I stopped reading HERE:

"I can't imagine what it could be if it is not the Ark," said Arch Bonnema of the Bible Archaeology Search and Exploration (B.A.S.E) Institute, a Christian archeology organization dedicated to looking for biblical artifacts.
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Seek, and ye shall find - even if it isn't really there.
 
It's a cool story but we all know the bible was written by people who had nothing better to do with their time, other than invent a new religion. I'm with most of you guys... show me prooof and not just 'But the Bible said so'. That's not proof, that's opinion.

I don't mean to piss on Christians, but I stopped beleving in fairy tales a long time ago. There is no Santa Claus. There is no easter bunny and there is no 'surpreme being'. There is only us, here and now.
 
bugman said:
I don't think it ever existed in the first place, but there seems to be something on this mountain. An anomaly of nature? Could be intresting in any case.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Story?id=2133311&page=1
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:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

:rowfull::rowfull::rowfull:

Noah's ark....

Wow.

These CHRISTIAN archeologists are probably also the same mental midgets that believe that Dinosaurs and Man lived together.

This is to fucking funny.

Maybe they'll also find the Toothfairy and the Easter Bunny while they're at it.
 
I found some wood on a mountain in California! I think it is part of the lost city of Atlantis! What do you think?
 
You all shouldn't be so quick to dismiss something just because you don't beleive in God. Not that I'm saying it's Noah's Ark, but you seem to definately think it's not. Like you're not even willing to even think that it's possible. Athiest say Christians are closed minded but sometimes Athiests seem just as closed minded.
 
mtTicklemonster said:
You all shouldn't be so quick to dismiss something just because you don't beleive in God. Not that I'm saying it's Noah's Ark, but you seem to definately think it's not. Like you're not even willing to even think that it's possible. Athiest say Christians are closed minded but sometimes Athiests seem just as closed minded.
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Not saying it isn't, but I will happily call out B.A.S.E for jumping to tremendous conclusions about something which (I quote) "looked similar to wood".

Not to mention that the flood myth occurs so often in creation mythology, that it's almost not even worth discussing in a scientific debate. We might as well look for evidence that earthquakes are caused by boobs...oh, wait... 😀
 
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mtTicklemonster said:
You all shouldn't be so quick to dismiss something just because you don't beleive in God. Not that I'm saying it's Noah's Ark, but you seem to definately think it's not. Like you're not even willing to even think that it's possible. Athiest say Christians are closed minded but sometimes Athiests seem just as closed minded.
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This has nothing to do with believing god really! I understand your point. The problem is that there have been search teams doing this for years and they always come up with a piece of the ark or something they believe is the ark! When they pull that big ass ship out of the mountain I will be impressed!
 
"It wasn't impressive at first... But when we got close, we were amazed. It looked similar to wood."


That's what SHE said! 😀
 
Here's the pic from NatGeo:

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Nevermind the logical problems I have with the thing, the pics leave me unimpressed. Looks like maybe a good block of shale to me.

Let's not forget this "Noah's Ark", either:

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Or these.


I dunno, but the most interesting recent ark story I heard recently was about the Ark of the Covenant. There's a tribe in sub-Saharan Africa called the Lemba whose traditions share similarities to those of Judaism, and whose people claim to be members of a lost tribe of Israel. Further, they claim that they took the Ark into Africa -- it was carried into battle against their enemies and would explode when used. They would then rebuild it partially from the wood that remained (if there was any left), and presumably the rest from what was available. They called it "ngoma lugundu". Genetic testing shows a marker in the Lemba that seems to support their claims of Jewish decent, and the remains of the ngoma is now on display -- the wood having been tested as about 700 years old.

Some articles on said story:

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1715337,00.html

http://nehandaradio.com/2010/03/07/biblical-ark-of-the-covenant-in-zimbabwe/

On the Lemba:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemba


Ngoma lugundu:

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I read this yesterday.. now it will make ppl think for they said the bible does not exist when they found other things.. make your peace for the time is coming.
 
mtTicklemonster said:
You all shouldn't be so quick to dismiss something just because you don't beleive in God. Not that I'm saying it's Noah's Ark, but you seem to definately think it's not. Like you're not even willing to even think that it's possible. Athiest say Christians are closed minded but sometimes Athiests seem just as closed minded.
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No, I'm not an atheist. I don't believe this thing is Noah's Ark for several reasons.

  • The story of the Flood as recorded in the Bible is physically impossible, and not demonstrated by any physical evidence such as a worldwide flood would leave.
  • If the Flood did occur, it would have to be in prehistory, when humans didn't have the skills or the tools needed to build a boat like the one Genesis describes.
  • If such a boat were built, it could not survive the intervening millennia to be found in a recognizable condition.

It has nothing to do with my beliefs about God, except insofar as those beliefs allow me to look at evidence in ways that fundamentalists cannot.
 
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