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Paranoia

Leo tickles

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Hello, as some of you know I am Leo, and I'm the most paranoid depressed person in TMF history. I have a general question for the guys and gals.

If somebody says "I like you", or, "I'll cya tommorow at noon", or anything like that, what's your answer. I know the proper thing to say would be yes, okay, cya, bye. But somehow I say "No, your lying, stop lying." I doubt there is anybody who is out there who would be willing to put up with my paranoia in return for love, but I still have hope. I thought about getting my own life in order before bringing a female into it, but I decided my life IS in order.

This isn't about me, so uh, thoughts please?🙂
 
Leo tickles said:
I thought about getting my own life in order before bringing a female into it, but I decided my life IS in order.

You have to be ready to deal with things before anything is going to be resolved. Deciding that your life IS in order suggests that you aren't ready to do that.

Can you still bring someone into your life? Sure. But, it's going to have to be a VERY strong and secure person in order for them to stand up to the paranioa, etc. if it isn't being dealt with. A lot of people aren't up to doing that. So, you could be setting yourself up for a fall. I'd be as up front about this as possible about your struggles so they know what to expect from the start.

I'd also consider some counselling to help overcome the paranoia and depression. It's hard work. But, it's worth it when you can rejoice in the victory of reclaiming your life.

just my two cents...
Ann
 
Hi Leo. First of all as someone who has been unlucky in love for many years, and who has had one long term girlfriend his whole life at age 35 due to personal and confidence issues, I know a little bit from where you stand. I will say that while it is perfectly acceptable to experience feelings such as you do in your situation, if you actually convey the emotions you express to a female, it can serve as a turn off. This happened to me once. Let me explain.
One time, after my ex girlfriend and I broke up, my mom, (Probably feeling sorry for her miserable depressed son after he had just lost his girlfriend of more than 2 years) set me up on a date with a girl named Jessica. I wasnt prepared for the date, and everything went wrong. First I got lost trying to find her house, and had to call her to find the way. Strike one. Then, back in the days when I wass thinner and had no appetite, before I moved here the last several years and have a great appetite, we went out to an Italian dinner and the date just wasnt going well. The conversation was stumbling, and it didnt go as planned. I lost my appetite at dinner and couldnt eat a thing. After the date ended quickly, I was informed that the girl never wanted to see me again because things had gone so bad.
So, while nerves and feeling down are acceptable human emotions to experience at certain times, if you actually convery them around girls, especially on first meeting or as getting to know them, it can be a very bad thing.
My advice is this: Think of all the positive and good qualities about yourself. We all have them. I like to think about myself that while I may not, and never have been, Don Juan, with the ladies, that my best quality is my absolutely honorable character. My ex girlfriend Jenny always said that the one thing she loved most about me was that when I made a promise, unless I was sick or had some other legitimate reason, the promise was always kept. This probably came from having a father who has broken promise after promise to me his whole life, as I always try to be a better man than him.
I dont mean to bring myself into this, but I wanted to try and lend my assistance to you from a point of view of someone who has had issues with women at times. My mom has always told me that "If you dont feel good about yourself, no one will feel good about you". This is probably my key point here. Try to pick the best thing about yourself, and go with it. Hopefully, it can lead to you opening up a whole world of possibilities for yourself.
I hope what I have said helps you. Let me know what you think, or if any of this makes sense to you.

Best to you,
Mitch
 
Wow, good people exisit? Seriously, that wasn't a joke. Ann, Mitchell, thank you for replying.

Ann- Yes, I know my life isn't in complete order, but the main part is. I know what I want, I know who I am, and I hate it. I have a councelor that tries to help with the paranoia and depresion but he seems to be failing. I tell most girls from the start about my condition. I tend to put it in a very neagtive way though, kind of like an asshole. It goes something like this. "One thing you should know, I'm paranoid and mad at everything so if you don't like it say bye bye now". I know that is wrong, but no matter how I twist it comes out like that.

Mitchell- Hello my friend, I am sorry for what has happened to you and your ex. I too had an ex, 3 years, that cheated on me. I am trying to cope with my paranoia and deal with depression. I have some good trates, or so they tell me, but I tend to not belive them. They say I'm very smart, funny, caring. But the thing is, I don't want a girl to say what she likes about me, I want her to say something like "If I tell you, then you'll keep doing it, and I don't want that. I want you to be who you are". And that's what i am looking for. A girl who exepts Leo, as simply Leo.


Now, another thing I must talk about. If a girl says, after we've been talking for a while, "Let's be friends, I like you and all but just as a friend" And there single, I say bye. I don't do the friends game.

Well, that wraps it up for my long and boring post, cya in the chatroom guys and gals.
 
Leo, I understand exactly what you mean about a girl accepting you for you, and that is extremely important. No one, no matter who they are, can or should change the fundemental person who you are, and who you want to be. If that happens, then you are not true to yourself and your principles.
Oh, just to clarify, Jenny and I didnt break up because of infidelity. She never cheated on me, to my knowledge. We broke up because I was going through some very serious family and financial issues for a person in his 20s, and it became too much for both of us to handle. Perhaps without my personal issues, we may have stayed together. Iam not sure.
One more thing: Let me explain about what I mean by principles. As some on here do, I have two fetishes, tickling, and female feet. The feet came first for me, as I have had that for many, many years, and the tickling came later. While I love tickling, and would much prefer a woman who would let me enjoy my preference on a regular basis, I think I could deal with someone who allowed me to tickle her sometimes, if everything else was right in the relationship.
As for feet, that is a more touchy issue. I have had a foot fetish seemingly since my age of reason, even if I didnt realize it was a fetish at that point. I dont think I could be with someone who wouldnt let me kiss and play with her feet on a regular basis, at least during sex or foreplay. Even if she was too ticklish to be foot tickled all the time, or have her toes sucked frequently, I would at least need to be able to kiss her feet and massage them as part of our sex play. If someone refused to let me do that, there would be a great void in my relationship with her, from my standpoint, that would be difficult to overcome.
Getting back to your situation, and I didnt mean to run on a tangent there, I was trying to use examples for myself of how keeping fundemental values is important. Feeling insecure in relationships and with members of the opposite sex is a normal process. I will say that there are times when one has to try and attempt to trust their instinct, let themselves go, and say "What the Hell". Life is about taking risks sometimes, and if we are always afraid to take a risk for fear of being rejected or hurt, then we will never be able to overcome. As an example, I had a horrible time with women in high school. I was a borderline anorexic, nervous person who had no clue with women. At one point, I even kept a "strikeout record" as I struck out with about ten girls in a matter of three or four years before going to college, gaining confidence, and finding Jenny. Once that happened, while it is always a bit scary to date a new woman, my issues with self confidence were slowly overcome. This can happen to you as well. Again, you can and will overcome. It is a matter of first feeling better about yourself, and working on your own issues first, because, as you pointed out, until you work through your own issues, it becomes very difficult to have a solid relationship with a woman.
Iam glad my post helped you. Anytime you want to chat, let me know.

Mitch
 
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