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[elfriend]

Now that it's actually me posting this I agree people should listen to the Golden rule and Mike should stop signing on my account and posting under me! WTF Baby! 😡

 

[method11236]

The big problem with allowing people to say whatever they want as a retort to a personal attack is that nobody ever really "puts anyone in their place" on the internet. Instead, people will start bitching back and forth trying to 1-up each other but not getting anywhere, fanning the flames, maybe drawing more people in who get butt-hurt over someone's comment and want to add their OWN two cents, until the entire thread is destroyed, hence the term "flames". You might say, "That's when the moderators should get involved," but where does one draw the line? It's easiest to have zero-tolerance for unnecessary B.S.

Not that this place is a democracy, but if it was, even if democracy is about freedom, it's also about the majority. If one person happens to be an ass, with nothing positive to contribute to anything, and everyone can't stand that person, the majority will want that person's "freedom of expression" to be suppressed. Have you ever heard someone say something that just made you think, "Okay, YOU'RE not allowed to talk anymore!"?

You make a very good point, my friend. I agree that there is no mechanism to deal with conflict dynamics, in particular, conflict escalation on the net.

 

[method11236]

Meth.....if you say women are retarded one more time - someone is going to light you on fire!!!! As Helen Ready once sang....."I am woman, hear me roar"!!

Ha, I yield to the fairer sex, my dear. And you don't wanna know what I have to say about men...

 

[NavelTickler75]

Ive never read or come across a flamer herre, the mods must be doing their jobs right.

 

[Iggy pop]

Well I don't like porn at all, and could do without the naked pictures on the left hand side, so I avoid looking at them.

But I feel this site is growing away from porn, and more toward community as weeks go by, so just so with it, and if ya don't like something, or someone, quiet!

Note, I have yet to see anyone bash another person yet here, as oppsed to other sites and forums I've been too, very refreshing!

I would just like to state for the record that I like the porn. Call me crazy, but I also like female nudity. Some of us here do find tickling highly erotic and technically this is an adult forum. But to each their own.

As for the chatrroom, all I ever hear is how bad that place is. The few times I went in there it was uneventful. Really uneventful. Boring is probably a better word for it.

 

[Skipadeedoodah]

I personally think that this idea of only saying nice things is total rubbish. We're all adults here, who live in the real world, where there is no Golden Rule. Why then should we create some sort of fake environment that exists no where in the world except preschool? Are we that incapable of taking a few criticisms, low blows, some mockery?

This Golden Rule, only say nice things crap only reinforces the idea that people are weak and need to be sheltered from foul language and criticism.
There is a big difference between the TMF being a "safe place" (which is should be) and it being a place where immature children who lack the social skills to hear something negative said need to be coddled.

Anyone who cares so deeply what someone says about them on an internet forum, let alone an internet tickling forum, is a deeply flawed and failed person. Isn't it ironic that we are all here because we love tickling, but most of the people here cannot laugh at themselves. For a bunch of people devoted to making people laugh, maybe we should take ourselves less seriously.

In conclusion, the Golden Rule is an awful thing. It hurts the TMF and all its memebers by assuming we need to be treated like weak little children, and it should be abolished. The TMF should be modeled on the real world, because the real world works and makes you a better person.

Respectfully,

Method

It didn't make you a better person. Treat people how you wanted to be treated, plain and simple. You want people to be rude to you? Go ahead then, be rude. So yeah, in everyday life you're gonna run into people who are jerks, and usually there's nothing you can do about it, but usually those people are selfish, immature and insecure. Sound familiar? Grow up. If you don't want to be nice to people, fine, then stop posting, cause I really doubt anyone wants to deal with your attitude.

"Respectfully" (does that make what I just said to you sound any nicer?? Nope, didn't think so,
-Liz

 

[Mitchell]

The fact is this. Yes, of course in "real life", people can be rude as hell. We all encounter it. What I'm about to say has been said before. Mimi saying it comes to mind, but, I'm sure that through the history of this site, Jeff, Myriads, and other mods and admins have said what I am about to as well.
Mods, for the record, not to paraphrase, or "parrot" what any of you have said in the past. This is a private site. The "rules", as the poster who took issue with them, called them, are drawn up by Jeff, Myriads, and the mods and admins. They decide what is permitted, and what isn't. The TMF is their internet home, and, essentially, every one of us are their guests. While all the good members consider ourselves welcomed guests in their home at any time, and truly consider it our own home, if we screw with their rules that they have set up, they have the right to take action, talk to us, warn us of a ban, or, if it is serious or consistent enough rude behavior, they can toss us out. Myriads and Jeff have said this: They dont like to throw around bans, because it isnt positive for anyone, them, or us. However, if people are going to be rude on a consistent basis, they can toss us. It is their right, whether we like it, or not.
For me, "The Golden Rule" does work. I much prefer a site where people are attempting to be civil to each other, and post positive things, rather then everyone being all "Oh, you suck, and you suck, etc". The Golden Rule is also subject to interpretation. I've had times when I've had things said to me, that I've asked the mods to take a look at. Sometimes, they will remove it. Others, they have said to me:" Sharp, and maybe not the best, but not warranting us to remove it, or warn whoever put it up". I may have been disappointed at their call on a particular issue, but I accepted it, and moved on. I looked at the greater picture. If I wanted to be here, I needed to follow the Golden Rules, and accept the mods judgement calls, whether I felt those calls were right, or wrong, on a particular issue, because, unless I dont want to be here anymore, being here, and privately disagreeing with things that might have happened, is better than not being here at all.
To me, the Golden Rule is a good thing. I would much prefer a site where people are mandated to be civil. Can you imagine what this site would look like, if people who might have disliked each other for whatever reason, carried their flame wars on to the board, and we had, cluttering the board. "Oh, Andy Smith sucks. Or :Susan Jones is a jerk". (Only examples of course, and if there are, in fact, members here, whose real names are Andy Smith, and/ or Susan Jones, my apologies, I was just using such as an example) People wouldnt want to be here, and read all that crap. It is much better to have debate, or, if there is disagreement, to do so in a civil manner.


Mitch

 

[ViperGTS]

Guess what? The rules aren't going to change for you.

You're here by your own choice. If you don't like it here, get out.

 

[Mitchell]

Very well said, Viper, my friend, and much shorter than the long thing I put up.
Hope you are doing good. Please give my best to Irish.

Mitch

 

[kis123]

My first introduction to the golden rule was in elementary school. Since this was taken out with the pledge and school prayer, another reason why public schools are the cesspools they've become IMO.

My point is that the golden rule is a part of life; treat others as you desire to be treated. Sounds simple, huh? Too many people treat others any way they wantl and expect someone to treat them with respect in return. It doesn't work that way and that's why the rule is used here.

I don't want to be a member of a forum where everyone just runs wild with rants and tirades. I wouldn't find it worth my while to share my feelings and opinions somewhere I'd have my head torn off by someone who disagrees (not that it hasn't happened in the past).

If you want a forum where you don't have to be respectful and tear down and insult those that disagree with you, I'm sure you can find plenty of those around the internet. Why come here attempting to change what works when you can more easily just go and find what you like? As Viper said, the rules aren't going to change for you.

If folks don't like the way this forum is handled, my best advice would be; "don't let the door hit ya' on the way out!"

 

[Vae]

Guess what? The rules aren't going to change for you.

You're here by your own choice. If you don't like it here, get out.

And this is why we love you, Viper. You can take ten words and say everything I could've said in 100. 😀

 

[method11236]

I agree that the Golden Rule is a beautiful thing, but only when we choose to impose it on ourselves as individuals. I am not making an argument that the TMF is flawed and needs to be changed. I really do love this forum and the people in it, just the way it is. I am simply voicing my opinion that the only thing worse than a 'flamer' or someone who is rude and mean is someone who gets offended by flamers and mean people. There are a lot of jerks out there. But there are also a lot of weaklings who can't take a joke and love any excuse to cry and say poor me. Method says: I'd rather live in a forum full of jerks than a forum full of cry babies, cause Method hates the cry babies. This is beyond the TMF, this is a statement about the world.

 

[venray]

Thank you, Venray. Just, seriously, thank you. I know we haven't always agreed but I certainly agree with you on this one.

Anyone who makes any comment just to get a rise, especially out of a whole group, is pathetic. At least to me.

We dont need to agree all the time Vae....that would be boring ...but we respect the other person's right to disagree and do so in a civil manner...

What Meth wants is a forum where he can insult people without repercussion...he feels that those who protest his kind of behavior are the ones who should go away.... this of course is ludicrous...

 

[NavelTickler75]

I would just like to state for the record that I like the porn. Call me crazy, but I also like female nudity. Some of us here do find tickling highly erotic and technically this is an adult forum. But to each their own.

As for the chatrroom, all I ever hear is how bad that place is. The few times I went in there it was uneventful. Really uneventful. Boring is probably a better word for it.

Yes I could tell its adult as there is nudity here, just saying I find tickling highly erotic too, but I dont need to have nudity on top of it, I like the mystique of wondering, rather than seeing. Buts that me being my old conservative self. To me sex outside marriage is sin and wrong, but Im not going to start bible thumping. If you alreaddy did not know of that belief by people, well you've been hiding in a cave. And I will not judge as Im just as sinful and as in much danger as hell as the next guy or girl. So thats it there.

Not seen fights in the chatroom yet, but it has been dead for a while, when I go in there I'll admit it.

 

[Mitchell]

Ray, another problem I see with what Meth suggested. Say, for arguments sake, that Jeff and Myriads decided that they were going to loosen the Golden Rule, and allow mud slinging to go on, or not crack down on people, warn, or ban, if everyone attacked each other on the board. This place would turn from a civilized board, where people come to read about tickling and other experiences, into a board of incivility, that no one would want to read. Imagine if new members joined up, or even current members came, and all they saw was "This one sucks", or "That one is a bitch, asshole, or whatever". Who would want to spend time reading such crap? We all have enough going on in our own lives, with work, family, and pressures of everyday life, no matter what our status is, to have to come here every night, or however often, and read garbage like that. While nothing is perfect, the rules set up here are understandable.
One final point: As we well know, even in real life, we cant always vent every feeling, every time we have it. Say we run into a rude driver on the road, or a rude person takes our parking spot, cuts us off on the road, or makes us mad, we cant walk around cursing everyone out, or letting things "all hang out". There has to be some sembalance of civility, in each situation.
I personally would not want to belong to such a board as Meth suggested. I want to come here, share experiences, read about tickling, and other subjects, and just try to have a good time. Additionally, for new members, especially those who are unsure, and arrive at this site uncertain of what to do, whether to join, whether to stay with the site, and how often to visit, I can almost guarantee that if we have a board like Meth suggested, featuring some of the examples I used in my posts today, that it would scare or deter new members from joining, or even lurkers who dont register, from reading. Look how many people lurk here for years, before saying a word. Not all of us are bold. If they saw a board of incivility, I can almost guarantee, that it would drive away many more people uncertain about joining this site, and even those who love tickling, and wholeheartedly want to join, than it would persuade new members, both sure, and unsure, to join TMF, if it was run in the way Meth suggested.

Mitch

 

[Texas_Tickle]

I guess a solution would be to create another forum, one specifically created for nudity

We could have a seperate forum....one to post non-nude tickling, and one to post nude-tickling

 

[TickledToDeath]

I guess a solution would be to create another forum, one specifically created for nudity

We could have a seperate forum....one to post non-nude tickling, and one to post nude-tickling

That may be a bit too far and un needed really. All the poster has to do is state in the post/thread..."nudity" if there is such in the pic/vid clip.
Creating a seperate forum for such is overkill.

TTD

 

[indivision]

I'm coming to this thread a little late, whereas I have not been in the forums for a few days.

I don't necesarily think this place has an excessive amount of rudeness, fighting, etc., but I have noticed more than just a little bit of it. And I can't help but be surprised by the fact that tickling, something that produces laughter, can attract the number of rude, callous, and disrespectful people that it does.

Seriously, I can't imagine people like that even being drawn in the slightest way to tickling. But, I guess the Internet is like that: you learn something new all the time.

 

[Texas_Tickle]

True, but think of this as you would a large family. Families fight, but it does not mean they do not care about each other.

In a group as large and dynamic as this, it's not possible to please each and every person.