Pistons vs. Pacers after the game brawl in the stands

[BlackmoonDoll]

Did anybody watch what happend after the game of the pistons and pacers that was on Espn?

They couldn't even finish the full game they had to call it off. So the final score ended of begining 97-82 with the pacers winning the game. The fans of detroit and the people living in detroit michigan are cowards and punks using cheap tricks and punching and kicking the players while they have thier backs turned to them.

 

[Goatboy]

That was absolutley incredible. The fans in detroit showed just how low class they are with that display. It's one thing to yell at a player or heckle them or whatever (to an extent. You can take that to far.) You didn't pay for your seat to sit there quietly. However, you should NEVER throw anything at a player, and for the fans to be involved in such a display, where countless things were thrown, and fans were actually throwing punches at players trying to break up a fight, is just disgraceful. Something has to be done to insure that this disgusting display is never repeated.

 

[kis123]

Personally, both sides were at fault. Fans come to a game to cheer their team on and give a little hell to the opposing team. All in fun and natural for a game. Players are prepared to be booed or heckled during a game (at least most of them anyway). But when you start throwing things at players for doing their job, that's too much. That was probably the tackiest display by fans and players I've ever seen!

Having said that, there's really no excuse for players to go into the stands after fans. Someone should have been the grownup. Many of these players could benefit from anger management training! A lot of players and the NBA are going to lose a lot of money over this one. I personally all involved are caught, not just the players, and are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law!!! This kind of behavior needs to stop so people can feel safe at the games. Take it from someone whose football fans are considered the worst in the league (battery-throwing, beer-bottle throwing knuckleheads from Cleveland) the bad reputation never goes away!

 

[jugner]

Very un-sportsmanlike. all in all, very disgraceful

 

[Mitchell]

I saw the replays on TV. Disgraceful. Whatever happens in a sports game, even a fight, there is no excuse whatsoever to carry things into the stands. In all honesty, the fans who were throwing beer and other objects on to the court were just as much as fault as the players. The refs were absolutely correct to stop the game. There should be fines and suspensioms for this.
I have been to baseball games with bench clearing on the field brawls, including where the Mets and Braves went at each other a few times. During those, there were booing crowds, but the fans stayed in their seats and let the players and umps sort it all out. Whatever happens in a sports game on the court or the field, there is no excuse for the fans to be involved. Both fans and players need to show respect for each other. In this case, I expect the particpants to receive several game suspensions and large fines. What an awful display!

Mitch

 

[Traveler]

That was very low class by the fans.Then,on the other hand these ballplayers are suppose to be pro's.They should of let security handle it.Now,the will be suspended,fined and cost their team wins,which will in the long run cost their team money.All in all very disgraceful on both sides.

 

[giggleygirl25]

maybe they should do what they do with the hockey arenas...put the protective glass around the court...i know it's not a permanent solution...but it might stop some of the crap that is going on in sports (not just basketball)

 

[TicklishAllison]

It got out of hand...

There should be rules at stadiums/arenas, fans who participate in that sort of behavior (throwing things or getting into it with the players beyond yelling of any kind) should be banned from the stadium/arenas. At a baseball game a couple of years ago, a fan reached out and grabbed a player as he was making a catch, so he could not finish the play. That "fan" is banned from all MLB games forever. Not only did the players in this basketball game go into the stands, fans then went out on the court, for instance, the guy who got jacked in the face by Arents (sp?). Stay out of each other's way... they get paid either way, you paid to be there, its not life or death, I dont care how drunk you are or how frustrated the anger-management control problem player is. This could have happened anywhere, the fact that it happened in Detroit just adds to their bad reputation. Poor Michigan. Okay, I'll shut up now.

 

[BlackmoonDoll]

maybe they should do what they do with the hockey arenas...put the protective glass around the court...i know it's not a permanent solution...but it might stop some of the crap that is going on in sports (not just basketball)

The protective glass is a pretty good idea and could be an opinion. But i don't know if all the NBA arena's could get up protective glass in all the arena's in time by the end of the season is over with. They would have to have workers there putting in the proctective glass for a couple hours each day to make sure all the proctective glass in every arena was safe and secure for the everyone the went to the games (including the playoffs).


That one guy in the black shirt though that Ron Artest went after the beverage was tossed on him. Did you notice that his buddies that were right thier with him in the stands watching and cheering just kind of moved out of the way and let thier friend get punched and smacked in the face by Ron Artests fist.

But no the NBA does need to have some more police officers and take better steps so another brawl does not happen when the Pistons go to the Pacers in Indiana arena or just so that this sistuation does not happen again in the NBA. I feel sorry and bad for the little kids as well that they had to see all this bad stuff happen when most of the kids at the game look up to some of this NBA players like Heros

 

[Armpit_licker]

I'm sick of all these players not saying what Artest did was wrong, but instead saying it's all the fan. There is no excuse for throwing ice, that fan is an idiot. But that doesn't even come close to comparing to flying into the stands throwing punches.
Artest saying it was self defense? Randomly punching some guy who didn't even throw the cup is self defense? You don't protect yourself from a flying cup by running into the stands hitting people. It's a joke.

Onto ONeil, get ready to serve some jail time, son.. What a huge cheap shot he laid into that guy.


"Did you notice that his buddies that were right thier with him in the stands watching and cheering just kind of moved out of the way and let thier friend get punched and smacked in the face by Ron Artests fist."

BlackMoonDoll, what were you watching? Obviously something different then what I was and I have the live feed on tape along with 3 other angles of the fight. First off, Artest didn't punch the guy at all. He opened handed pushed him down then fell himself. Also, the guys "buddies"(they were not even sitting by him, just around him in different seats) grabbed Artest as soon as he came after the guy.. I don't think any of them knew exactly who he was coming for.

4 players suspended indefinatly, good job.. Jail time should be coming at least for Oneil.

 

[Knox The Hatter]

Rod Artest has reached the circle of athletes who can't go anywhere or do anything without someone challenging them to a fistfight. Past and future Yankee manager if he wasn't dead Billy Martin belonged in this circle, as well as Charles Barkley. You don't get into this circle unless you yourself have acted like a hooligan on or off the field, or court, or ice, etc.

Rod Artest has already proved himself to be one of the great hooligans, and he's suspended indefinitely. When the story of this melee first played on the radio while I was on a road trip yesterday, and the two clubs involved were announced, my very first reaction was, without hearing the names of the players involved, 'what did Rod Artest do now?'

 

[Armpit_licker]

ARtest - Rest of Season
Jackson - 30 games
O'Neal - 20 games
Wallace - 6 games

Great job and a worthy suspension for Artest.. Jackson also got what he deserved, maybe more. O'Neal got what he deserved but may serve jail time for the sucker job punch.. Wallace should of only got 2 games if not 1. He got screwed in all of this.

 

[BlackmoonDoll]

I was watching the Game. I'm a basketball fan so of course i would be watching it. Just Because i never said that Ron Artist wasn't wrong. Does not mean that i still don't think that he was. Because he was at fault and wrong for what he did. But so were the fans as well thier just at fault to for what they started doing. Booze in your system does things to people that they normally would not do.

So i do agree with the time limit for Ron Artists suspension. He does get what he deserves

 

[kis123]

ARtest - Rest of Season
Jackson - 30 games
O'Neal - 20 games
Wallace - 6 games

Great job and a worthy suspension for Artest.. Jackson also got what he deserved, maybe more. O'Neal got what he deserved but may serve jail time for the sucker job punch.. Wallace should of only got 2 games if not 1. He got screwed in all of this.

I'm a little confused😕 . Didn't Wallace start the fight with Artest? Didn't Artest walk away and Wallace follow him and deck him over the table? If I saw that correctly, Wallace should've gotten the same fate as Artest, shouldn't he? Had he not started the fight, none of this would've happened at all. I could be wrong about the details, but from what I saw, Wallace did not get the punishment he really deserved. If I'm wrong, I apologize in advance.

 

[dstrbd]

I'm a little confused . Didn't Wallace start the fight with Artest? Didn't Artest walk away and Wallace follow him and deck him over the table? If I saw that correctly, Wallace should've gotten the same fate as Artest, shouldn't he? Had he not started the fight, none of this would've happened at all. I could be wrong about the details, but from what I saw, Wallace did not get the punishment he really deserved. If I'm wrong, I apologize in advance.

Honestly... I don't think Wallace deserved more. He DID start the fight with Artest (even if he fouled him, no reason to shove him in the face). But, he didn't get involved in the altercation in the stands. That's why I think 6 games works, because it's less than the players who fought with the fans, but more than the players who just got a game.

 

[The Sean Man]

Saturday morning, I was doing a live radio broadcast at the new sporting goods store at the mall. Automotion, the Piston's dance team, was there signing their new calendars. People were actually coming up and giving all this grief to the girls about what happened at the game. The girls, although quite taken aback by this, were quite cordial and quick with the "no comment" (which, by the way, is all they were allowed to say by Pistons management). I would clip these rude folk with "Uhhh, they're the DANCE team, hellllllllloooooooooo!". These morons would stand there for a second, and say, "Huh? Ohhhhhh, the dance team...okay."

Yeah, confusing an NBA player with a 5'2 dancer in a sequined outfit...gosh, the resemblence is uncanny

The Sean Man

 

[Cav88]

heh.

 

[BlackmoonDoll]

heh.

LOL

 

[dman68]

something i didn't know

I was watching one of those ESPN shows with the reporters speculating on various topics in the sports world and this came up. One of the men brought up the fact that Ron Artest is the father of something like four kids. This makes his actions all that more disgraceful I believe. Acting like a thug in front of America's youth that look to stars as heroes is bad enough. But then to act like that for YOUR OWN kids to see is horrible. I would like to know how he could look his kids in the eye to explain daddy's actions. It's just terrible.

 

[Armpit_licker]

Wallace shoved Artest, then threw a towel at him. That is it.. If Artest never acted like a baby and went into the stands then Wallace gets zero games, maybe 1.. He got caught up in all the childish behavior and got 6 games which was unwarrant.

 

[maniactickler]

This is just a sample of the hip hop, rap, thug mentality that the newer generation is about nowadays. basketball teams are more like gangs now than teams. sad.

 

[Armpit_licker]

This is just a sample of the hip hop, rap, thug mentality that the newer generation is about nowadays. basketball teams are more like gangs now than teams. sad.

Yeah, that darn rap music.. If we didn't have that dog gone rap music Artest never would of lost his temper and went after the fans....

 

[batch]

i agree with maniac on this. ive been saying for awhile now that the rap culture is spreading this stupid shit.

let's not forget that artest just released a rap record. hmmm....

 

[BlackmoonDoll]

Now you people are blameing the Pistons vs. Pacers brawl on rap music and the rap culture?

That is the most stupidest thing that i have ever heard in my life.

 

[Armpit_licker]

BTW, for those who are blaming this on the rap community, if this were white guys who went into the crowd fighting would you blame the hardcore head banging punk rock music? I bet not...