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police state in the making

t s s

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just received my voting form for the election of area councillors here in the u.k.,included is a "security statement" form,which must be sealed in with my vote,it has my name on it and a number i`ve been allocated by the state so i guess the idea of an election vote being cast annonymously,without fear of victimisation if you vote against the government,is now a thing of the past over here.Maybe we should get the U.N. in to oversea fair,annonymous voting democracy here.I know many will think this is no big deal but there`s been instances here of people bringing legal action against our government after rail crashes etc,even the press who support this government have been disgusted by leaks concerning the plaintiffs in the paddington rail disaster having e-mails intercepted and their political affiliations used to smear these people with spin basically saying it`s not the family members they`ve lost that`s the motive,the real reason they`re suing and creating a fuss is because of their political beliefs!...remember,this is the blair government who thought 9/11 was a "good day to bury bad news",and released all the stuff that they didn`t want people to know about but,legally had to publish,the day after when all the media were covering the twin towers-the stuff they wanted to go un-noticed hardly saw the light of day.Luckily a whistle blower from inside blairs own spinners was so disgusted he brought this to the publics attention,it still took blair weeks to sack the spin doctor responsible "for her error in judgement",just please remember what kind of tricks are being pulled in the name of security and freedom when you`re waving your flags.... :sowrong:
 
Voting Form?

We have machines (some manual, some electronic)that are placed in public places like schools and fire stations and such. You show up, stand in line, show your ID and then sign the voting register to cross check your identity, and then step into the booth and vote. Sounds a bit different there, and I must admit i don't care for the sound of that "Assigned Number" system. Isn't a signature just sufficient in verification procedures? Q
 
up until now Q our system was the same,booth,privacy,annon vote,guess our great leaders decided in his wisdom that this ways more informative,btw,if you don`t enclose name and number your votes not counted!:sowrong:
 
Procedural change...

That's a pretty "big" procedural change. Didn't they have a row over this in the houses and other governing bodies? Surprised they can even implement something that drastic without a lot of citizen input...hmmmph. Q
 
the way things are here lately Q,with our control freak prime minister,pretty much anything seems to go.as he keeps saying,he was voted into office(even though just over a quarter of the total population voted for him,about a third of the country doesn`t even bother voting nowadays)so he has a mandate from the people to run the u.k. as he sees fit.the "opposition" are all wealthy,titled,business types here,tories they`re called,but i`d guess you know that if you`re as up on our politics as we are on yours.basically he went to the best schools,came from a tory voting background,and hi-jacked the labour party when he saw an opening,he`s got that certain arrogance that only the rich british really have,lol.anyway,i`m voting against a labour leader for the first time ever,it`s probably pointless but it seems that the tory/labour differences in core beliefs and policies over here are becoming as blurred as the republican/democrat ones are in the states.
 
It is quite a disturbing development isn't it? Doesn't affect me personallybecause I refuse to vote for any of the lying, cheating, robbing bastards; but I appreciate the point you're making mate.

Anyone up for making a public point of this? When you have concerns about something like this, I definatley believe in making as much noise as you can about it.
 
Voter turnout...

That % is disgraceful, not that ours is much better, and trending towards the same....

Btw, BJim, have you heard the latest Madonna tune? She also seems to feel there's hidden forces at work in the world...interesting lyrics for you to dissect at the very least!

How do you make a ruckus over there anyway? Here we'd try a local paper and hope it got picked up nationally or hit the TV Mag shows.
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i e-mail the labour party H.Q. occasionally.no answer so far from tony "the man of the people....i read each and every letter and e-mail personally" blair.i`m expecting some guys in suits and shades to pull me into a van with tinted windows one day very soon though,lol.😎 😎 😱 😱 😀 😀
 
Re: Voter turnout...

qjakal said:


Btw, BJim, have you heard the latest Madonna tune? She also seems to feel there's hidden forces at work in the world...interesting lyrics for you to dissect at the very least!

If I was gonna dissect something about Maddona, it would'nt be her Lyrics Q! *rubbing sweaty palms together*

qjakal said:
How do you make a ruckus over there anyway? Here we'd try a local paper and hope it got picked up nationally or hit the TV Mag shows.

Ideally you'd ask the question at a public meeting. Last guy I knew who tried that thought he was about to get his questions answered when two blokes in suits and dark glasses grabbed either elbow and introduced him to the pavement outside. And you think i's easy trying to publiscise that? None of the regular press would touch it. It makes me want to be sick.
The West is the land of freedom? It's a bloody, sick joke. It's a dictatorship where you can only vote for people who big business chooses to fund. That isn't freedom OR my definition of democracy.
 
t s s said:
i`m expecting some guys in suits and shades to pull me into a van with tinted windows one day very soon though,lol.😎 😎 😱 😱 😀 😀

If you see a big, sweaty lump in the opposite corner of the van, say hi to me will you?😀😀😀
 
I'll have more than one if things go that far! I'll have a whole bleeding skinful! lol
 
One of these days, I really gotta watch that film.
 
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