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Poltergeist Videos

alchemy

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The first video is faked. Look and listen carefully before and after "Again."

1) The lighting has changed - it's brighter on the wall next to the closet.
2) The camera slowly zooms in on the closet, which it didn't do before.
3) The background noise after "again" is different than it was before - in particular, there are no dogs barking. But you can still hear background noise, which shows that the "zoom" effect is a live zoom by the camera operator, and not gradually expanding a single frame of the video.

Note that all three of these vids are from the same poster. The fact that the first one is so clearly faked makes me very doubtful about the others.

In the second, as near as I can tell the guy panicked because one of his two dogs was acting strangely (though the other dog wasn't), and then a precariously placed stack in his attic fell over (while he was standing next to it, no less). A really convincing poltergeist would have picked the stuff up again.

In the third one the door opening and closing is clearly jerky stop-motion. The paper towel roll could easily be moved with a little compressed air. And both of his dogs seem undisturbed (no hiding under the bed this time).

I'm not convinced.
 
The first video is faked. Look and listen carefully before and after "Again."

1) The lighting has changed - it's brighter on the wall next to the closet.
2) The camera slowly zooms in on the closet, which it didn't do before.
3) The background noise after "again" is different than it was before - in particular, there are no dogs barking. But you can still hear background noise, which shows that the "zoom" effect is a live zoom by the camera operator, and not gradually expanding a single frame of the video.

Note that all three of these vids are from the same poster. The fact that the first one is so clearly faked makes me very doubtful about the others.

He used video editing software to increase the gamma (making it brighter), enlarge the closet (the zoom), and slow down the part with the ghost (the distorted background noise.) Skeptic or believer, the fact that it's the same footage is obvious.
 
He used video editing software to increase the gamma (making it brighter), enlarge the closet (the zoom), and slow down the part with the ghost (the distorted background noise.) Skeptic or believer, the fact that it's the same footage is obvious.
Obvious in what way? The "eyes" aren't visible at all in the original footage, so it raises the question of how he'd ever know to enhance them (to say nothing of why a spirit would appear only as a pair of eyes in a closet, visible only on enhanced videotape). There's no loss of resolution, as one would expect with a short clip being blown up. The background noise doesn't sound distorted to my ear, just different. The dogs show no sign of disturbance by this spiritual presence, which has supposedly panicked at least one of them at other times.

The only markers that could possibly identify this as the same footage are things that wouldn't move anyway, such as the position of the closet door and the clothes on the floor. Looked at objectively, this and the other clips are all B-movie stuff.
 
Obvious in what way? The "eyes" aren't visible at all in the original footage, so it raises the question of how he'd ever know to enhance them (to say nothing of why a spirit would appear only as a pair of eyes in a closet, visible only on enhanced videotape). There's no loss of resolution, as one would expect with a short clip being blown up. The background noise doesn't sound distorted to my ear, just different. The dogs show no sign of disturbance by this spiritual presence, which has supposedly panicked at least one of them at other times.

The only markers that could possibly identify this as the same footage are things that wouldn't move anyway, such as the position of the closet door and the clothes on the floor. Looked at objectively, this and the other clips are all B-movie stuff.

I didn't even know what you were talking about at first, but its obvious you've missed the point of the video. Those little glowing dots in the back room aren't what you're supposed to be looking at. During the vid you can see a shadowy figure walk into the room suddenly. Its hard to see on the first play through because it happens over about half a second.
 
I am not a skeptic or a believer, but as a video producer, I can tell you that the edits you see in these videos are either NOT for the sake of faking the films, or are done by someone who is a professional, and leaves no trace of the editing behind.

In the first video, the little glowing dots you can see in the closet ARE visible, quite clearly, in fact. If you pay attention, you see two things - First, a very fast-moving "orb" as it's called, shooting from right to left, about halfway down the wall underneath what looks like a light switch. (I didn't even notice this at first - SapphireRose saw it and pointed it out to me.) It's quick, and I don't think the guy who took this video noticed it at first. Secondly, you see a shadowy figure move quickly into the dark closet - it seems to appear from thin air and gets a little more defined as it slinks into the shadow.

Redmage - you say that it's a different section of footage, but I strongly disagree. The person who recorded and edited this footage simply slowed down a specific section of the footage where he saw the figure moving into the closet - during that area of the video the first time, there were no dogs barking in the background for that period of time. The lighting is also different, but as FireSprite explained, that's because the Gamma of the footage was increased so that it would be easier to see the shadow moving. Finally, you saw that the camera zooms in "manually" and that the background noise is different. During the "haunted" section of the video, you notice that the camera does NOT zoom in at all. When the editor enhanced this section of footage, it seems like he used the video editor to slowly zoom in on the frame simply for dramatic effect. Also, he slowed down the speed of the video, which you explain the slightly distorted background noise.

Personally, I do not believe the first video was faked.

The second video has some creepy shit in it, but there's also some suspicious stuff on the part of the guy filming it.

There's pretty clearly no one upstairs in the attic, He pans around the entire room and there really isn't anywhere for anyone to hide (despite the MESS!). The aluminum can that later moves "on it's own" doesn't appear to have any strings attached to it, but he only looks at it with the camera for a brief moment.

Notice that not only do both dogs seem creeped out, the white one moreso, but even the cat seems to think something is amiss - it looks up at the ceiling for a few seconds before walking away.

SapphireRose pointed out that the guy seemed to intentionally look at the aluminum can before it moved, as if he thought something were about to happen specifically to it. Could be because he knew what was going to happen, could just be a coincidence.

The scary part about this has nothing to do with the can that moves - it's what happens after that. Based on the background noise, the guy cleary got the fuck out of Dodge, and you can hear that he is no where near the camera (IMO). Pay attention to the sounds in the background - the lights didn't just go "off" - something physically pulled the chain that controls the light, as you can hear it dangling and making noise as it touches the lightbulb.

While the lights are off, something else really friggin creepy happens - an acoustic guitar, that was resting close to the floor in a horizontal laying down position, lifts off of the floor and seems to be "tossed" onto the box where the can used to sit. It had to move up about three feet and one foot to the right to land where it did. HOWEVER - this part of the video seems faked. If you look closely, right before the guitar moves, the lighting changes just BARELY. Just to the right of the brick chimney stack, something suddenly becomes visible that wasn't before, like a bad stop-motion edit. It's a pretty clear cut in the film, and I suspect the footage was edited so someone (probably the guy) could go behind the chimney stack and toss the guitar. Who knows, it could just be that something gets moved as the poltergeist tossed the gitar, but it looks like a pretty obvious film edit.
*EDIT* Something else I just noticed - while the lights are off, just before the guitar is moved, you can tell that the footage has been edited because there is a box on the floor in the bottom left corner of the screen. It seems to "fade" slightly to the left - it was moved and the guy edited the footage to try to cover it up.

The third video is creepy, because I see no film cuts, the dogs are obviously both looking at SOMETHING, and I see no evidence of the jerky stop motion that RedMage claims to see - the film is continuous and the door doesn't "magically" change positions without being moved in a fluid motion.

That's just my take on these. I've been very interested in the paranormal for many years and have captured a few EVPs myself, so this kind of stuff really piques my interest.
 
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The first video is nothing more than something in the other room reflecting light its a thing called matrixing . As for the picture moving if you see it moves right when he shuts the door so probably the wind or the slamming of the door moved it .
 
the second video im not seeing anything so idk it looks like just an attic to me


the third video however the "orb" was nothing more than a bug

as for the door its obvious that it was edited


bottom line the guy who made these videos is a fraud
 
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now this is true evidence of the paranormal
 
the second video im not seeing anything so idk it looks like just an attic to me

as for the door its obvious that it was edited

Yeah, those silly cans move all by themselves, damned rascals.

Obvious to whom? WHat makes it so obvious? There is no color or gamma shift, there is no inconsistent motion anywhere else. SO how can it be so obvious? Or are you just a hardcore skeptic who says that anything is obviously fake if you don't believe in it yourself?
 
All I know.. Is the attic one seemed a little off.. The other two were interesting and didn't seem all that fake to me..

In fact, this made me watch like 15 more videos like that.
 
Yeah, those silly cans move all by themselves, damned rascals.

Obvious to whom? WHat makes it so obvious? There is no color or gamma shift, there is no inconsistent motion anywhere else. SO how can it be so obvious? Or are you just a hardcore skeptic who says that anything is obviously fake if you don't believe in it yourself?

oh no i believe in the paranormal just look at that video i posted however i need hardcore evidence and if theres any possible chance that it can be debunked or recreated then the evidence has to be thrown out .

the videos just arnt good peices of evidence not to mention the fact that Poltergeists are just " noisy ghosts" that video is hardly evidence of a poltergeist

IF it is paranormal its a residual type
 
I love watching this kinda stuff. One of my favorites is the ghost fence. Where the cops are chasing this guy and towards the end of the video, the car vears off to one side. When the dashboard cam catches back up with the guy being chased, he's on the other side of a fence which is still fully intact and standing. Don't know how to embed vids or I would post it.
 
I love watching this kinda stuff. One of my favorites is the ghost fence. Where the cops are chasing this guy and towards the end of the video, the car vears off to one side. When the dashboard cam catches back up with the guy being chased, he's on the other side of a fence which is still fully intact and standing. Don't know how to embed vids or I would post it.

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This?
 
That's the one. It's probably some kinda spring fence or something. But it's very interesting to watch.
 
I've been very interested in the paranormal for many years and have captured a few EVPs myself, so this kind of stuff really piques my interest.
First off, I'll preface by saying I'm the same way. Been interested in it for years, have physically seen things in the house I grew up in (along with other people 2 of the times, and have a photo I'll have to remember to bring to NEST next year for you to check out Viper.

That being said, I think all 3 are fake. The second one mostly because of his actions. Why would you be holding a camera and filming yourself try to coax your dog out from under a bed for 10 minutes. If you really thought something was wrong with your dog, wouldn't you put the camera down and see about her. Then when you start hearing noise in the attic and footsteps walking around up there, again, camera at the ready you go investigate? Come on now. You'd pick something up to defend yourself with if it sounded like someone was up there. And to top it off the commentary...."something is definitely up here". Really? It would have topped it off if he had said "it's getting reallllllly cold in here" or "I feel a presence here". 😛

And the last one, orbs just don't hold that much water. Could be energy, or it could be dust or a bug. The door just seamed hokey to me, maybe it's just me. And the paper towel looked fake mostly because when it bounces on the couch, it overcorrects while landing in the exact crook of the arm to support itself upright. The dogs could have very well been staring up at their owner.

I'm not trying to tear the videos down, I think the guy is good. I enjoy watching these kind of vids, and I often do check em out on Youtube and I appreciate you posting them Alch. Just for nothing to be out of the ordinary then he capture 3 things on film in a row is pretty unlikely. Call in T.A.P.S., he lives on an energy hotspot. To believe or really even look for this kind of stuff, you have to be willing to disprove it or look for the logical explanations first. Thanks again for posting them Alch.

And now for the REAL stuff.

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And now for the REAL stuff.

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That vid had me over here cracking the hell up, for like 15 minutes! That has got to be the FUNNIEST thing I have seen all damn day! Thank you, so much! lol.
 
That vid had me over here cracking the hell up, for like 15 minutes! That has got to be the FUNNIEST thing I have seen all damn day! Thank you, so much! lol.
Aw your welcome Cindy. Same here, I saw it off to the side when watching Alch's video and once I watched it, I was useless for the next 10 minutes.:jester:
 
shoot the floating thing was not an orb.. porb was a fleck of floating dust..
 
The 3rd video freaked me out. I'm a believer in that kind of thing. If it's really a fraud it still doesn't discount some of the weird shit I've seen with my own 2 eyes.

Of course, if the man had a Sonic Screwdriver he could rid himself of the problem.
 
*EDIT* Something else I just noticed - while the lights are off, just before the guitar is moved, you can tell that the footage has been edited because there is a box on the floor in the bottom left corner of the screen. It seems to "fade" slightly to the left - it was moved and the guy edited the footage to try to cover it up.
I can see the shadowy "figure" that you and FireSprite mention, but to me it doesn't look very figure-like. It's simply a barely visible flicker of shadow to the right side of the entry to the darkened room. It never looks more than about a foot long to me, and it lasts less than a second. It appears to be the sort of thing that might result from any ordinary object passing quickly across the lightsource that's off-camera around the corner. Could be something as simple as the guy opening the door to come in after going out with his dogs. Could even be a camera artifact.

The "eyes" aren't visible to me in the unedited footage.

As for the second video, it seems very strange to me that the can happened to tip over right after the guy stood there staring at it. And you find evidence of fakery in the falling guitar. To my way of thinking, any faked evidence calls all the evidence into question in a case like this. The lights going on and off would be easily faked by the video producer himself standing behind the camera doing it, or by an accomplice who simply stayed out of the camera's field of view while he was panning around the attic. All he'd have to do is stand behind the cameraman.

There's really just too many inconsistencies here: the changing behavior of the dogs, the suspicious movement of the objects, the edited footage.
 
I can see the shadowy "figure" that you and FireSprite mention, but to me it doesn't look very figure-like. It's simply a barely visible flicker of shadow to the right side of the entry to the darkened room. It never looks more than about a foot long to me, and it lasts less than a second. It appears to be the sort of thing that might result from any ordinary object passing quickly across the lightsource that's off-camera around the corner. Could be something as simple as the guy opening the door to come in after going out with his dogs. Could even be a camera artifact.

Fair enough, however, something obstructing a light source that far away from where we can see the shadow would have cast a softer shadow and due to the angle, would have been much much larger, probably taking up half the room. Also, the shadow we see slides INTO the open closet door, not just past it. Either it's a hell of an optical illusion or this guy got something real on tape. I find NOTHING suspicious about the first video.

As for the second video, it seems very strange to me that the can happened to tip over right after the guy stood there staring at it. And you find evidence of fakery in the falling guitar. To my way of thinking, any faked evidence calls all the evidence into question in a case like this. The lights going on and off would be easily faked by the video producer himself standing behind the camera doing it, or by an accomplice who simply stayed out of the camera's field of view while he was panning around the attic. All he'd have to do is stand behind the cameraman.

There's really just too many inconsistencies here: the changing behavior of the dogs, the suspicious movement of the objects, the edited footage.

I agree with you, for the most part.
 
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