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Pres. Obama Signs The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act

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President Obama signed this new federal law which gives the FDA power to regulate the tobacco industry.

The new law states the following:

- Creates a tobacco control center within the FDA and gives the FDA authority to regulate the content, marketing and sale of tobacco products.


- Requires tobacco companies and importers to reveal all product ingredients and seek FDA approval for any new tobacco products.


- Allows the FDA to change tobacco product content.


- Bans the use of flavors in tobacco products (including cloves, cinnamon, candy and fruit flavors), with the initial exception of menthol cigarettes.


- Calls for new rules to prevent sales except through direct, face-to-face exchanges between a retailer and a consumer.


- Limits advertising that could attract young smokers.


- Requires cigarette warning labels to cover 50 percent of the front and rear of each pack, with the word warning in capital letters.


- Bars the use of expressions such as "light, "mild" or "low" that give the impression that a particular tobacco product poses less of a health risk.

What do you think of this?
 
I'm delighted. If it'll keep even one clove-smoking vampire-hippy-bastard off the streets, I'm sold!
 
The law is a lose. The entire thing is designed to help Philip Morris, as they sell only regular cigarettes and menthols, and were a backer.

This is a pretty big crock put together by big tobacco to help squash out the little guys. Essentially, if you crush out things like flavored tobacco which is favored by recreational smokers and enthusiasts, then all that's left is cheap shitty cigarettes to be sold by big tobacco.

Convenient, huh?

Write your congressman. If they voted yes, call them a douche. I'm all for helping to keep kids from getting hooked on smoking, but this isn't the way. This is just a government mandate to help one company beat its competitors.

As one community health educator, Michael Siegel, was quoted as saying, "(it) creates the appearance of regulation without allowing actual regulation."

Add to that, the issue with the FDA being able to control nicotine levels, those persons who are already addicted will simply smoke themselves into an early grave to keep up their fix.

Foolish and poorly executed, that's what this is. Fuck it, gimme a kretek.
 
So you think that using the FDA as regulation, which was designed to serve the health of the general public, is a terrible idea? It doesn't sound that bad to me.

I could be wrong, though. I can't say that I agree with him being overly bi-partisan. Politics aren't my thing, I'll be the first to admit that. I'm more into science. Is there anything out there besides political opinion bashing this act? I need some physical evidence before I can really make a judgment.
 
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Philip Morris, makers of Marlboro cigarettes (among other brands) supported this law. Enough said.
 
That isn't really "enough said" for me. On the one hand, yes, you have Philip Morris, but you completely ignored the FDA.
 
I've been smoke free (cigarettes) for six months, and I know how hard it is to kick the habit. While I agree we need to find a way to keep kids from starting the habit, I'm more than a little skeptical that this bill will have that effect.

It just seems to me that these kind of efforts usually fall short of what there intended to do. They've tried it with alcohol and we still have underage drinkers. They tried it with all the different kinds of drugs, and kids are still dying from overdoses. I won't even go into the sex and violence they deal with on a day to day basis.

I just don't believe that the government can keep kids from doing anything, I think that's up to their parents and their friends and finally up to the kids theirselves to make the right choices.

That's my opinion anyway.
 
I'm a little skeptical that any of Obama's plans will have the effect they are suppose to. I'll be happy to hand him a shovel. He seems all too willing to dig his own grave. As soon as his celebrity status fades and the masses start to realize he hasn't really done anything he promised to do (and made sure to add "don't hold me to it"), I think he'll be in for a rude awakening. I'll be paying for his policies long into the future.

BTW. I like Cloves and I'm not a goth hippy whatever. I keeeeeel you in you sleeeeep!!!
 
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I don't see that this helps at all. Either make all tobacco products illegal, or just keep it the way it is. I'm not overly impressed with our new president.
 
I smoke Newports. The law doesn't really affect me as much as previous things have, like huge taxing of tobacco products and banning of smoking in bars, etc.

I think it might be good that the FDA is regulating it now and the ingredients have to be listed, but I don't think the bill is going to achieve what it's supposed to by any means.
 
They can write that warning as big as they want to.Smokers know it's bad for their health and all the consequences they just don't(excuse the language)give a damn and just because you put a bigger warning on there doesn't mean they will suddenly care anymore or less.
 
There's more to the bill than a big warning label. Sure people realize smoking is bad for them, and I don't think they don't give a damn. Smoking is an actual addiction and many need help to quit. Most people start smoking when they're young and don't fully realize the negative effects. I don't think a person would start smoking as an adult knowing full well the possible consequences. That said, eliminating flavored tobacco and not advertising tobacco within 1000 feet of a school may help kids from picking up the habit. Although, I doubt it.
 
I know there is more to the bill but taxing it more isn't going to stop smokers either and if they eliminate the flavors well that is a good idea to stop kids but some just smoke menthol and don't care anyway.Not advertising?Well so what little Suzie still has her big brother upstairs or mom and dad or her friends to introduce her to it.No matter what they do their will always be smokers
 
Of course, there will always be smokers, even if they make it illegal. I think the idea of the bill is to help prevent children from picking up the habit, and to deter others from smoking by helping them to realize just what they could be in for, in the long run. Taxing cigarettes has been happening for years, it's not part of the bill, I don't think. For instance, cigarettes here are about $10 a pack. That's pretty steep for me, but I can't really go more than a day without my Newports.

And yeah, some kids just smoke regular or menthol, but most kids when starting out buy flavored cigarettes or cigarillos in flavors like vanilla, cherry, strawberry, and so on. Same with hookah flavors. Most kids under 21 and over 18 hookah because there's really nothing else for them to do. These flavors were made most likely to target kids. Eliminating them may prevent more kids from picking up the habit who might otherwise be attracted to flavored tobacco.

And just because someone's parents smoke, doesn't mean it's going to inspire their children to pick up the habit. In fact, I think there's a lot of cases where it deters the children from smoking. Watching the effects of tobacco on a person for years can do that to you.

Most children are aware of tobacco products. Some get into it because they want to "fit in" or "be cool." And others just don't care that much to try it. I think it's got more to do with peer pressure than parental pressure lol.
 
AnnieHall said:
Of course, there will always be smokers, even if they make it illegal. I think the idea of the bill is to help prevent children from picking up the habit, and to deter others from smoking by helping them to realize just what they could be in for, in the long run. Taxing cigarettes has been happening for years, it's not part of the bill, I don't think. For instance, cigarettes here are about $10 a pack. That's pretty steep for me, but I can't really go more than a day without my Newports.

And yeah, some kids just smoke regular or menthol, but most kids when starting out buy flavored cigarettes or cigarillos in flavors like vanilla, cherry, strawberry, and so on. Same with hookah flavors. Most kids under 21 and over 18 hookah because there's really nothing else for them to do. These flavors were made most likely to target kids. Eliminating them may prevent more kids from picking up the habit who might otherwise be attracted to flavored tobacco.

And just because someone's parents smoke, doesn't mean it's going to inspire their children to pick up the habit. In fact, I think there's a lot of cases where it deters the children from smoking. Watching the effects of tobacco on a person for years can do that to you.

Most children are aware of tobacco products. Some get into it because they want to "fit in" or "be cool." And others just don't care that much to try it. I think it's got more to do with peer pressure than parental pressure lol.
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probably has a lot to do with peer pressure and boredom but I just can't see taking flavoring out really stopping anybody and neither the advertising.That's just going to upset some of your smokers because they took away a favorite brand like Sweet Dreams I will miss them.As for parents deterring their kids by smoking,that doesn't always happen.
 
I think it's definitely possible this bill will prevent some people from smoking, mostly kids, but I don't think it will make as big a difference as people hope.
 
AnnieHall said:
I think it's definitely possible this bill will prevent some people from smoking, mostly kids, but I don't think it will make as big a difference as people hope.
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that's how I feel.It makes me kind of angry too because now I'm sure all the Sweet Dreams brands will be gone and probably the hookah flavors I never got to try out.
 
poppameth said:
BTW. I like Cloves and I'm not a goth hippy whatever. I keeeeeel you in you sleeeeep!!!
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I come back as zombie and eaaaat yoooour braaaains! :ggrin:



I have to admit, I've been relying on clove oil as a salve for a bad toof when necessary here in recent weeks. Ugh, the cigarettes make me gag, though.
 
There are clove cigarettes and there are good clove cigarettes. I can't stand the cheap ones either. I like Djarum Blacks and that's about it. I haven't smoked anything in years though so this doesn't really effect me either, it just annoys me.
 
Well there you go folks! Don't smoke, buy jewelry! It's all quite simple when you really think about it! :spam:
 
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