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Raiders are moving backwards

german

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I am first to defend every decision Mr Davis and ultimately the Raiders make; but this decision is ridiculous - firing Coach Shell.

He had set a new level of discipline and only needed players who believed in it, obviously this decision has shown making so called superstars happy is more important them building a successful franchise in the eyes of Mr Davis.

I can't honestly see the Raiders pulling themselves out from the bottom of the AFC West for some time.......

At least I can look forward to Tha U doing some damage next season under Coach Shannon.

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Let's just hope that Mr. Davis hires someone who will get the job done and stick around for a while. I don't really even know if it was a good idea for them to hire A. Shell again after all those years. It's time that he goes and finds some young and new for the job. With the right coach it can be turned around. Who knows, they may even get Bill Cowher to come out of retirement within the next year or so if things don't work out.
 
I tell ya Mr Davis better pull something out..........I might have to start wearing my Quincy Carter jersey again.

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I agree and now it's definitely official. I was watching Jay Leno and the Oakland Raiders were used as a punchline. It used to be the NY Knicks and the LA Clippers. When a team is used as a comedy punchline on national television you can say they literally are a "joke".

Problem is, the Raiders have so many problems.. where do you start??
 
where do they start ?

No idea anymore

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german,i hope you understand thats its nothing personal against you,but i can tell you that those of us in K.C. find the Raiders problems to be an endless source of hilarity and hope it continues for some time.

The Chiefs were a joke and a farce for many years,and its good to see the shoe on the other foot for a change.😉
 
I know B man I know.

I can honestly say a 1-15 wouldn't be that bad if that one win knocked the Chiefs out of the playoffs and I think the exact same can said from a Chief's perspective.

Ahh what a great rivalry we have my friend.

Oh by the way just to let people know from the start; if Rob Ryan is promoted to Head Coach I will burn my Raider gear.

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Unfortunately, as long as "uncle Al Davis", the "puppetmaster", is on top of the daisys, and not underneath them, not much will change....

I kinda like the fact that the fake Raider fans have jumped off the band wagon since the superbowl appearance......we didn't need em anyway.....
 
I don`t think the Raiders will win until Al Davis either retires or dies. The game passed him by many years ago. He is in charge of player personal, and his draft picks are horrible. Frankly, I don`t know who would be interested in coaching them, its not a very attractive job.
 
jaba said:
Unfortunately, as long as "uncle Al Davis", the "puppetmaster", is on top of the daisys, and not underneath them, not much will change....

I kinda like the fact that the fake Raider fans have jumped off the band wagon since the superbowl appearance......we didn't need em anyway.....

So is it safe to assume there is another Raider fan here.......I thought I was the only one. Yeah funny that ay Jaba, I tell you but there are still a lot of people that still bleed Silver and Black around.

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jaba said:
Unfortunately, as long as "uncle Al Davis", the "puppetmaster", is on top of the daisys, and not underneath them, not much will change....

I kinda like the fact that the fake Raider fans have jumped off the band wagon since the superbowl appearance......we didn't need em anyway.....

You are right jaba,nothing will change untill Mr. Davis is gone.He is not liked here in K.C. of course,but he was one of the pioneers of the AFL along with Lamar Hunt.The old guard is almost gone,and i wonder if the new generation of owners are more concerned with their personal profit or the good of the NFL overall.

It is the latter i fear in to many cases,and one must wonder what will happen to the game as this new ownership takes power.
 
ah yes, the Oakland Raiders. no offense german, as i think you're a cool guy, but i am so FREAKIN' GLAD THE RAIDERS ARE SUFFERING!!!!!!!

ever since they left Los Angeles and talked a bunch of sh*t on their way out about Los Angeles, i wanted to see the Raiders suffer. nothing was sweeter than watching Tampa Bay beat the holy hell out of the Raiders in the SuperBowl. nothing is sweeter than watching then go 2-14. i hope they never see the light of day again. R.I.P. Raider organization.....

no one talks trash about my town and gets away with it....
 
primetime said:
ah yes, the Oakland Raiders. no offense german, as i think you're a cool guy, but i am so FREAKIN' GLAD THE RAIDERS ARE SUFFERING!!!!!!!

ever since they left Los Angeles and talked a bunch of sh*t on their way out about Los Angeles, i wanted to see the Raiders suffer. nothing was sweeter than watching Tampa Bay beat the holy hell out of the Raiders in the SuperBowl. nothing is sweeter than watching then go 2-14. i hope they never see the light of day again. R.I.P. Raider organization.....

no one talks trash about my town and gets away with it....
Don't be coy Prime, tell us how you really feel. LOL :evilha:
 
Bobby Petrinos' name keeps on popping up, anyone know what he has done?

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The Raiders are going to have to wait for Al Davis to die before getting anything serious accomplished. Al's handling of personnel reminds me of the Cardinals...when old Mrs. Bidwell used to go through the college yearbooks and pick out the "handome boys" to play for the Cards. That worked well. About as well as protecting guys like Randy Moss over a coach just getting things together.

Sorry Raider fans (and you probably know this), but not is Al Davis far behind the game anymore, but he's just an asshole. Plain and simple. It's almost like he tries to get the first pick in the draft.

No one really wants to coach for him.
 
Dave2112 said:
The Raiders are going to have to wait for Al Davis to die before getting anything serious accomplished. Al's handling of personnel reminds me of the Cardinals...when old Mrs. Bidwell used to go through the college yearbooks and pick out the "handome boys" to play for the Cards. That worked well. About as well as protecting guys like Randy Moss over a coach just getting things together.

Sorry Raider fans (and you probably know this), but not is Al Davis far behind the game anymore, but he's just an asshole. Plain and simple. It's almost like he tries to get the first pick in the draft.

No one really wants to coach for him.

Yep...the truth hurts, but you are right....

I'm still steaming over the "Marcus Allen" incident...... :Grrr:
 
german said:
I am first to defend every decision Mr Davis and ultimately the Raiders make; but this decision is ridiculous - firing Coach Shell.
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I agree with you 100% on this one!!! Art Shell was the BEST thing that they had going for them this season!!!



He was going to pull them out............they just needed to be patient!!!
 
Well, it is sad to see the Oakland Raiders fall apart like this, but I believe what needs to happen for them is that they need to take Rob Ryan, the defensive coordinator, and make him head coach even though he is not an offensive guy and Al loves offensive guys, and hire Jim Fassel to take over that offense. If anything, that's the only thing I see really working in Oakland. Also, Bobby Petrino is the head coach of Louisville, and he's done some damage since being the head coach over there. He's a college offensive mastermind.
 
Petrino is now the head coach in Atlanta. Do the Raiders go for Jim Mora Jr?

Quarterback issue - Aaron Brooks doesn't fit, Mr Walter is a rookie - do they go after Jamarcus? Maybe Tate? Brohm?

They need a whole new defense, rid themselves of Porter at receiver, and just go back to the bruising ball control and ball hawk team - I am sure Howie Long and Lyle Alzado, along with Ken Stabler and Bolitnikoff are just sickened. Real Men Wear Black - guess lately, real men are mourned in Oakland. Should we rid of Al Davis?
 
I don't think Rob Ryan is the answer;

*Defense was top 5, yes, but they couldn't stop the run and people seem to forget that. If he is the reason they were the top ranked pass defense in the NFL he is the reason why they can't stop the run.

*Introduced the 3-4, that went really well............

The defense was good this year because of the players - simple. Sapp was a vocal leader and the youth and speed on this team is second to none.

The Raiders need fresh blood at Head Coach, the offensive coordinator at USC is being interviewed for the position - he reminds me a lot of Gruden.

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german said:
I don't think Rob Ryan is the answer;

*Defense was top 5, yes, but they couldn't stop the run and people seem to forget that. If he is the reason they were the top ranked pass defense in the NFL he is the reason why they can't stop the run.

*Introduced the 3-4, that went really well............

The defense was good this year because of the players - simple. Sapp was a vocal leader and the youth and speed on this team is second to none.

The Raiders need fresh blood at Head Coach, the offensive coordinator at USC is being interviewed for the position - he reminds me a lot of Gruden.

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You're a classy guy German! If it wasn't for you I wouldn't give two fucks about the Raiders!!




My G/F likes them too, but I'm working on that!



You will turn young Skywalker!!!!!!!!!
 
gargoyleofdusk said:
just go back to the bruising ball control and ball hawk team - I am sure Howie Long and Lyle Alzado, along with Ken Stabler and Bolitnikoff are just sickened. Real Men Wear Black - guess lately, real men are mourned in Oakland. Should we rid of Al Davis?

yep....I think uncle Al has to go....

and I like your thinking....maybe we should replace Al Davis with a Gargoyle.....
 
Illtcklu; see when you turn down the Silver and Black path there is no turning back - your GF is lost forever 😛 lol.

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german said:
Illtcklu; see when you turn down the Silver and Black path there is no turning back - your GF is lost forever 😛 lol.

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Raider Nation need a little Cary Nation!
 
Its not what the Nation can do for you but what you can do for the Nation............The Raider Nation.

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