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Review of a new producer

Jeffy

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I have noticed a tickle vid producer on clips4sale called "Tickle Torture in South East Asia" Appenetly the guy fly's down to Asia and gets tiny petite young Asian women to do tickling videos for him. This does sound like an excellent idea because Asian women are generally very very ticklish and, the women in some of these poor countries would be fairly easy to convince for the extra cash, even though they can't stand being tickled. It sounds like a win win situation right? Well I was wondering if anyone has checked out any of their stuff? It looks absolutely amasing. The women are young petite asian hotties and from the pics the bondage looks good, and he apparently gives these girls the tickle torture of their lives. I was just wondering if anyone knows if these videos are as good as they seem from their pictures and descriptions? Again the company of clips for sale is "Tickle Torture in South East Asia", and you can get there by going to the main area in "clips4sale.com" and brousing for the company. Actually here is the link to save some time. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

http://www.clips4sale.com/store/1935
 
Feedback and a question.

The clip was that you posted was excellent. However I have a suggestion that alot of people have expressed. My suggestion along with others is that you make the bondage more tighter. You have to be careful that so you don't make it too tight and so it hurts because then the girls wont be as ticklish. But yes make the bondage tighter. If you want to stretch them out 4 corner style then you need to make sure there arms are stretched out enough that there is no way they can bend them at all to protect their armpits. or of you a pinning their arms back over their head you need to pin them back far enough so then cant move them down at all. Same with the feet you need to strech them out so they cant move around as much. You just need to over all stretch the body out more so they are totally helpless instead of giving them space to move around. Now for my question.

What is the video you have that has the best underarm tickling in it? I mean a video where a girl is streched out and really tickled on her underarms for along time, and it drives her absolutely crazy. Any recomendations from your list of clips?

Thanx
 
Hi Jeffy,

Thanks for your positive feedback on the preview you saw. I do agree totally with what you are saying about the bondage in my content.

In all honesty and trying to be as unbias as possible, I would say that my tickling content is very good, and getting stronger all the time. But the bondage is not as good as it could be.

This is mostly due to the locations of the tickle episodes, where most bondage has to be improvized rather than getting them stretched out properly on a X table. Unfortunately, most places don't come equipped with X tables 😛

I do try to get them tied as much as tight as possible, but like you quite rightly said, its a balance between tieing and comfort. If I tied them how I would want them, then it would hurt them which kills what I am trying to do.

I cannot give you any recommendations on my clips as I do not want to sell you something that you could potentially be unhappy with.

Negative Fact 1: you will not find any clips in my store that have what could be described as "very good bondage".
Negative Fact 2: I don't think there is any clip that focuses 100% on the underarms. Although almost all have underarm tickling in it. I've found if one area is focused on too much, its not as effective.
Negative Fact 3: The lighting in my content is not as good as you would get in a prepared studio (I am working on getting more portable lights at the moment) although it is not dark, just not as good as I would want it.

Positive fact 1: All my content is REAL with no faking.
Positive fact 2: All my lees are broken and respond accordingly in their own way.
Positive fact 3: All my lees are cute, and total first timers and are tickled without any mercy at all. Some cry!

I cannot recommend any clips in my store. I can only say, try them. I am happy with the way they are going and I am making them better all the time. If you buy, and you give feedback, they will be even better and better.

It's actually very exciting as i am getting more and more people giving feedback, buying more and then mailing back after they've seen the improvement in the next episode.

My tickling engine is a working engine, and it is being constantly tuned by you guys, thank you.
 
Thank You and some very good advice for you.

It is nice to see a producer that isnt all snobby thinking they are the best just because they are a producer. It is also great to see that like feedback and want to grow. With that attitude you are going to be very sucessfull in this business. I however must give you a recomendation. That will ultimately be one of the deciding factors of how successful you are.

Most people who have a tickling fetish usually have a favorite body part they like focussed on whether it be pits, feet, belly, whatever, there is always going to be some part they like more then others. It is ok to make whole videos or sessions focussing on all the body parts however... what you need to do when making your videos, is make videos that have each part tickled for a long time before going onto the next. That way when you split the long videos into clips, you have clips that cator or are of interest to what each persons individual tastes.

Because what you might happen is you might get someone who say really likes feet tickling but, if you keep going back and forth between body parts and say... tickle the feet for only 30 seconds, then switch to the belly for 30 seconds, then armpits for 30 seconds, etc etc... then you'll get the foot person going "this sucks wish he would just tickle her feet" or the armpit guy going "I wish he would just tickle her armpits" and same for belly/ribs etc. Then you might get people dissapointed in your clips because then all you offer is juat a generic tickling and they might not want to buy from you.

If you look at all the major companies that are very successful, they all make videos for everyones individual tastes. And they have titles like "Jill's armpit tickle" or "Ann's foot tickle" Then people will be less afraid to buy from you because they know then that they arent going to pay for what they dont wish to see. Because if people look at your videos and cant tell which part is being tickled for how long they are not going to be intersted. They are just going to go to the guy they KNOW they are going to get a good foot clip from or armpit clip from etc. Right now you are doing better and getting better success because you are new and people want to check you out, however if you want staying power and want to make money give the people what they want not just a generic clip where they dont know what they are getting. Also as for the bondagey ou dont have to do much just make it a wee bit tighter.

Anyways if you consider those recomendations it will go along way.

Thanks
 
Hi Jeffy,

Thanks for taking the time to write.

Again, I agree totally with you about the focusing on specific body parts for tickling episodes. I find however that if one focuses too long on one specific body part, it becomes less effective in terms of "breaking them". Sure, it would give good prolonged shots of that body part being tickled which would indeed cater to those people liking that, but at the end of the day, the "breaking factor" would be less achievable taking this approach.

I will try very much to find an effective part of the body of each lee, and then focus more on that area in that particular episode, I guess then at least I can cater more closely, while still sticking to my #1 rule of breaking every lee in every session.

I am starting to learn that this is a balancing act between what people want to see, and keeping the essence of what I want to do with this. I really want to break every lee, but I also want to give you what you want. It would be very easy for me to just do what you say, and give those prolonged shots and not care about the end "break factor" but then I feel would as if I am cheating you by calling it tickle torture. I have come across tickle clips before where if you freeze frame them into a pic, it would look beautiful, but watching the movie... the lee's are not broken and the tickle seems very plastic and faked. I wouldn't wish for my content to ever have that feel, ever.

ummm, I'm not sure what else to say... Only, your feedback is very important and without it I would be left guessing even more.

Thank you again for taking the time to write.
 
Thanx for the consideration

Thanx for the consideration. There is just one thing you have to keep in mind. It doesnt matter what I say, or what the guy down the street says, what matters is what you are trying to accomplish. However, it comes down to a choice. Either you are trying to have very successful video sales, or you are just trying to make videos for the fun of it.

You are probably wondering why I am telling you all of this and why I care about your company so much. The real truth is that I have been waiting for a very long time for a producer to come out with some asian clips other then Japanese girls. There are not alot of asian clip producers out there to begin with, and the ones that are out there only seem to tickle the bone thin skelaton looking Japanese girls with no boobs. It is finally nice to see a video producer tickling the petite but "valuptuous" asian girls like Mylasian, Filipino, etc. So I would very much like for you to stay in business as long a possible. So please read what I have written below and just think about it. You will find this information very wize and useful.

If you are making videos just for the "fun of it" and recovering costs is not a concern for you... then by all means make a statement by making the videos YOU want and how you think the girls should be tickled. However, if your goal IS to recover costs, and perhaps make some profit, then you must give what the fans want. Too many video producers come into this idustry saying "I am going to do this MY way" and they end up comming and going like the wind.

I told you I love asian girls, and yes the type of girl is important, but I can tell you what is even more important then the girl, is the area of her body that is focussed on, and I can also tell you most others feel the sme way. From being on TMF for a couple of years and by reading posts, I have learned that nothing is more important to most fans then the tickler finding her most vulnerable spot and working it for a really long time. Every person has one spot that drives them nuts and most fans wnat to see that spot focused on. Don't believe me and what i say. Look for yourself! Check the posts of this forum. You will constantly see posts like, "I wish he would have tickled her feet more" or "Do you have any clips of her with armpit tickling?" Fans really do care about what body part they like, even sometimes more then the model themselves. I'll give you a prime example.

On this forum there was a clip posted of a very FAT not to attractive / ugly girl wearing skimpy clothes and being tickled. I thought for sure everyone was going to say bad things about this video, However! What happened was, the video got great reviews. Why? Not because she was cute, but because the guy focussed on one spot, and it very much pleased the people who like to see that spot tickled. Did it get good reviews from people who dont like that spot but like other spots? No. But it is not supposed to. Because then what you do is make a different clip thats goig to get great reviews from the poeple who like the other body part foccused on etc.

It is like making a movie. Do pruducers make a comedy, a horror movie, a action suspence movie, a love story, a documentary, and a cartoon all in one video? No. What they do is make videos for what each fan wants to see. So one time they will make a horror, the next time they will make a love story, next time an action. Does that mean the action movie is going to get great reviews from people who like love stories? No. Is the love story going to win the hearts of action fans? No. But I can guantee you if it is a good action movie all the fans of action will go, or if it is a good comedy all the fans of comedy will go see it. However if you make a movie thats neither a really good action movie, nor a good comedy, neither of the fans will wish to go see it.

The same goes with clips, if a clip is a very good armpit clip all the armpit lovers will wish to see it. If it is a good foot clip all the foot lovers with want to see it. Same with belly/ribs etc. But, if you make a clip that is neither a good foot nor a good armpit tickling, then both wont really want to see it. If you look at any really successful producer you will see they know this.

So anyways those are just some more rcomendations for you. I hope it all works out for you, and once I get my new internet pay card (which is comming soon) I will definately buy and check out some of your stuff. And if I like them and see a girl ferociously tickled in one spot for a while, I will definately buy more.

Thanx
 
MÿTicklingStudios said:
Hi Jeffy,

Thanks for taking the time to write.

Again, I agree totally with you about the focusing on specific body parts for tickling episodes. I find however that if one focuses too long on one specific body part, it becomes less effective in terms of "breaking them". Sure, it would give good prolonged shots of that body part being tickled which would indeed cater to those people liking that, but at the end of the day, the "breaking factor" would be less achievable taking this approach.

I will try very much to find an effective part of the body of each lee, and then focus more on that area in that particular episode, I guess then at least I can cater more closely, while still sticking to my #1 rule of breaking every lee in every session.

I am starting to learn that this is a balancing act between what people want to see, and keeping the essence of what I want to do with this. I really want to break every lee, but I also want to give you what you want. It would be very easy for me to just do what you say, and give those prolonged shots and not care about the end "break factor" but then I feel would as if I am cheating you by calling it tickle torture. I have come across tickle clips before where if you freeze frame them into a pic, it would look beautiful, but watching the movie... the lee's are not broken and the tickle seems very plastic and faked. I wouldn't wish for my content to ever have that feel, ever.

ummm, I'm not sure what else to say... Only, your feedback is very important and without it I would be left guessing even more.

Thank you again for taking the time to write.

I have seen the clip now and have also read the rarara statements of a lot of the other people that have really got off on that kind of thing. I realise that you will probably feel nothing for what I have to say, but I shall say it anyway.

What you showed there and what I have seen from the pictures on the site, it seems that the way you treat those girls is nothing short of abuse, and only the lenient laws in the countries that yuo visit and the financial desperation of the girls involved would ever allow you to get awa with it.

It probably makes you feel really good and powerful to come in as the rich (most likely) american, who can throw around money and get what he wants, but that is what I see as exploitation of the worst kind. Some people do it because they have the military or political power, others, because they have the financial.

That seems to be what rocks your boat, and obviously a lot of other people agree with you. I can only hope that at some point one of those girls will have some good friends or other clout and show you up for what you are.
 
Your post is so saturated with judgemental statements that I am not sure where to begin. Amongst personal judgements you've made on me your post seems to be based on exploitation and abuse... so lets just touch on that...

ex·ploi·ta·tion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ksploi-tshn)
n.
The act of employing to the greatest possible advantage: exploitation of copper deposits.
Utilization of another person or group for selfish purposes: exploitation of unwary consumers.
An advertising or a publicity program.

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a·buse ( P ) Pronunciation Key (-byz)
tr.v. a·bused, a·bus·ing, a·bus·es
To use wrongly or improperly; misuse: abuse alcohol; abuse a privilege.
To hurt or injure by maltreatment; ill-use.
To force sexual activity on; rape or molest.
To assail with contemptuous, coarse, or insulting words; revile.
Obsolete. To deceive or trick.
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Ok, now we have established the meaning of those 2 terms, lets take a closer look at their meaning in context.

To be politically correct, the girls ARE exploited. As is every single paid model you see in any tickling clip. The models consent to their exploitation in return for pay, each of them makes their decision for their own personal reasons.

It could also be equally argued that anybody in gainful employment is also being exploited. But it is CONSENTING exploitation. If you personally have a problem with any level of exploitation then I would suggest you check with producers to ask them if they pay their models for being tickled, if they do... then you got your answer. If you are offered employment of any type, and you are told before what is expected of you, then you make a decision from there - as do the models. I pay my models more for 1 tickle shoot than 95% of people here make in 1 week, which I guess is the reason for models referring friends and those friends refering more friends.

Do I feel powerful? In the context you've used it, most certainly not. Thats also a judgemental statement based on very little knowledge you have on me. You don't know me, and if you did you would never have said that in your post.

What rocks my boat is my love of tickle torture as many people here. I am only different in so far as I have the means to carry out my passion, which I then come to share with the community here. I am thankful that I can carry this out without fear of social judgement which many of us face in the west. I would have thought that you, being part of this tickle community would understand that more than most.

Are the models abused? Most certainly NOT! Not in the way you depict it at least. I have had 1 or 2 people that object to the use of some language that my ler uses at times, which could be deemed as verbal abuse using the definition above. This I too do not agree with, although I know my ler doesn't mean it in a derogatory way. To avoid misinterpretation on this, I have instructed my ler to refrain from using that language with the models.

I hope nothing bad does happen to me personally, nor would I wish that on anybody else. You may not like me, even though you don't know me. But my children love me as I do them and I think they would object to your hope that harm comes to me.

May god bless and enlighten you.

mart said:
I have seen the clip now and have also read the rarara statements of a lot of the other people that have really got off on that kind of thing. I realise that you will probably feel nothing for what I have to say, but I shall say it anyway.

What you showed there and what I have seen from the pictures on the site, it seems that the way you treat those girls is nothing short of abuse, and only the lenient laws in the countries that yuo visit and the financial desperation of the girls involved would ever allow you to get awa with it.

It probably makes you feel really good and powerful to come in as the rich (most likely) american, who can throw around money and get what he wants, but that is what I see as exploitation of the worst kind. Some people do it because they have the military or political power, others, because they have the financial.

That seems to be what rocks your boat, and obviously a lot of other people agree with you. I can only hope that at some point one of those girls will have some good friends or other clout and show you up for what you are.
 
Compromise between body parts and effectiveness...

First I want to agree with Jeffy in admiring you for your honesty in describing your videos. I like the way you presented both the negative and positive aspects of your work so as not to mislead anyone just to make money. Very admirable of you indeed!

Now to the point of this post... there exists a dilemma between real life tickling and the fantasies we all have. I'm a foot guy so I like to see a girl tickled on her feet for the longest time possible but what if a girl is not ticklish there and it is in fact true if you concentrate on one spot for too long it becomes desensitized. On the other hand, this is a business and if you want to be successful you have to show customers what they want. So how do you tickle effectively yet still show long scenes of one body part? The answer... editing. 🙂 You could film an entire session the way you do now...then you could edit the session into shorter clips where you edit all the foot content together and all the armpits together, all the belly...etc. Just because you tickled her foot for a minute then her armpits for 2 min more then back to the feet and so on in real life doesn't mean it has to be that way on video. That's the beauty of editing. With some well placed transition effects to make the edits less jarring you could take your existing footage and create body part specific versions to please more potential customers. Here are the drawbacks:

1. editing is time consuming and tedious
2. you need certain software to do it

Stilll, I think it's something to consider as it seems to be the perfect compromise between how you like to do the tickling and what folks like Jeffy would like to see as clips.

Keep up the great work and wonderful attitude. I'm by no means an expert nor am I trying to tell you what to do.. I just thought I'd make a suggestoin that might be helpful. Take care and I wish you success!

- DFT
 
DallasFootTickler said:
First I want to agree with Jeffy in admiring you for your honesty in describing your videos. I like the way you presented both the negative and positive aspects of your work so as not to mislead anyone just to make money. Very admirable of you indeed!

Now to the point of this post... there exists a dilemma between real life tickling and the fantasies we all have. I'm a foot guy so I like to see a girl tickled on her feet for the longest time possible but what if a girl is not ticklish there and it is in fact true if you concentrate on one spot for too long it becomes desensitized. On the other hand, this is a business and if you want to be successful you have to show customers what they want. So how do you tickle effectively yet still show long scenes of one body part? The answer... editing. 🙂 You could film an entire session the way you do now...then you could edit the session into shorter clips where you edit all the foot content together and all the armpits together, all the belly...etc. Just because you tickled her foot for a minute then her armpits for 2 min more then back to the feet and so on in real life doesn't mean it has to be that way on video. That's the beauty of editing. With some well placed transition effects to make the edits less jarring you could take your existing footage and create body part specific versions to please more potential customers. Here are the drawbacks:

1. editing is time consuming and tedious
2. you need certain software to do it

Stilll, I think it's something to consider as it seems to be the perfect compromise between how you like to do the tickling and what folks like Jeffy would like to see as clips.

Keep up the great work and wonderful attitude. I'm by no means an expert nor am I trying to tell you what to do.. I just thought I'd make a suggestoin that might be helpful. Take care and I wish you success!

- DFT
Thanks for taking the time to write DFT. I will try to incorporate what you've said into future episodes.
 
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