Mass-reply will be easier...
Celtic_Emperor said:
Furthermore, it didn't crash, we shot them down. They came to talk and we didn't trust them, even though we've spoken with them before and this particular species has helped humankind since the beginning of our evolution.
The greys are a benevolent kind seeking out knowledge. But theres evil in everything, so abusive and intrusive abductions are often the work of the evil ones in an effort to learn our biological weaknesses and evolutionary patterns. The good ones also abduct, but are far more gentle, return people to their homes, their beds even, do precise, precision work, and almost always ask if it is ok to harvest ova, or it is explained why they did it. Afterwards, the abductees are often given a tour of the ship, and the mission of the greys is often told.
The military has access to this knowledge after interogations of both humans and aliens, so the Roswell incident was just one of many. It just happens to be the most popular.
Russia is doing the same thing, and the "second branch" of Area 51 is over there. Its called the M-Zone, supposedly. Its in Russia where alien-human hybrids are allowed to be created for experiments. We aren't doing that particular research over here because the military powers here are having a hard time convincing others of it's applications and uses.
The russians aren't so moral about it and are slightly ahead of us in this respect, though the bulk of the weopons programs with alien applications/origins belong to us.
Just out of interest C_E, I'd be curious to know what your sources and main lines of reasoning are. Have you spoken to anyone who's personally experienced anything or had some "hands-on" exp. yourself? Why in particular do you consider greys who don't permenantly keep their victims to be benevolent and more gentle? At shampoo and cosmetics research labs the beagles and monkeys are returned to their cages after they've had Loreal and Timotei shoved up their arse and a Marlborough toking away in their mush. I'd hate to imagine what the less benevolent ones are capable of.
drew70 said:
Don't forget the cigarette smoking man. He's part of the cover up.
Funny you should crop up here Drew. I'd be especially interested to hear your serious thoughts on this subject. Leave the more fantasical aspects and theories to one side for a sec and let us know your overall thoughts.
Swimmingbird said:
There's no such thing as a U.F.O. to the American government, they're called Vimmana's in ancient Vedas texts of India. The man's keeping it from us, at first to keep order, but over time the branch of Vimmana research became corrupt. Look at the B-2's and the F-117's, I bet there's some real money behind those, not to mention... who else has them? I've heard countless stories of scientists packing up and heading to Japan because they're tired of fighting the U.S. for grant money and Japan welcomes them with open arms, Tokyo looks like the city of tomorrow, but when it comes to fighter jets, we're three times as far along then the rest of the world combined.
As a side note, the pyramids, both in Egypt and in South America, are perfectly aligned to true North, West, East, and South.
P.S. - If you like Roswell, then you'll love Rendlesham.
You are possibly a reader of Graham Hancock Double-E? There's a lot more to the dimensions of certain monuments than their exactness compared to the cardinal points.
Swimmingbird said:
I tell you, they're keeping it from us, but they might be getting ready to tell us. On Thanksgiving, the history channel aired UFO shows the entire day, that's where I heard of UFO's in ancient Indian history. Vimmanas were fire chariots that shot beams of light which could set the Earth ablaze. Supposedly, there was a war between two races of aliens over the Earth, the "good" guys were considered gods, while the "bad" guys were considered raiders from a different planet. They both rode in flying chariots.
I love the paranormal, it beats normal by leaps and bounds. I'm still waiting for quasinormal to come out though.
These two wouldn't be the races known elsewhere as the Nordics and the Annunaki by any chance?
TklDuo-Ann said:
I've heard all sorts of "proofs" both pro and con about alien life being what they're working on out there. Frankly, I haven't got a clue as to what's true. While I do believe that we are not the only intelligent life in the universe (What a waste that would be!), I'm not sure that's what's really going on at Roswell. I can see three possibilities here...
ONE - There really IS alien life and something somehow is being worked on there.
TWO - It's a DOD project and they love the fact that folks are thinking aliens rather than spy planes.
THREE - We're all full of it and it's something totally different.
OK, who's up for a little field trip? We can go see for ourselves. We just have to come up with a personal cloaking device so we don't get shot! lol
Ann
Number three is a good one to keep in mind, because a person should
never become chained down by immovable preconceptions. Just because we see ourselves as being the most evolved people to exist in the world doesn't mean we're any closer to the reality in our perception than someone from the 15th century.
Celtic_Emperor said:
Yeah, lets go get all Mission Impossible on Area 51's ass! LOL! ^__^
Personally I know next to nothing about the alleged Area 51. I know what it's proposed to be, but have seen very little in the way of supporting evidence. Certainly not anything that couldn't be seperated from wild supposition. My main reason for this is lack of interest. I do have some thoughts though...
1/ If there is an establishment where secret experiments are going on with recovered craft, it's not likely to be at a place where every UFO-head in the world has been concentrating their attention for the past 15 years. If anything was ever occuring in Nevada it's likely to be long gone.
2/ I think it's a definate possible that if anything has been going on, the Nevada place is likely to have been a dummy run to divert attention from the real place. Nothing that gets so much publicity is likely to be legit.
Celtic_Emperor said:
Lets remember folks that a UFO is nothing more than an Unidentified Flying Object.
It doesn't mean, though is often assumed, that the craft is of an alien origin. Alot of so called UFOs are often conventional craft viewed at strange angles.
I do believe however that there is alien influence in the newer, black op projects we're working on, particularly where propulsion and maneuverability are concerned.
Another tid-bit:
Its believed by some that night vision was founded after experimenting and questioning of alien visual aquity. Its sort of like how the Predator sees in infrafred and then applying that to a technological usage.
Whether greys see in night vision is not known, but it is believed that their vision is far better than ours.
Whilst a UFO is just something in the sky you can't pin down, is a little grey snot standing in front of you definately a being from outer-space? Whilst they're certainly very strange looking, the conclusion that they're from a distant planet is in many cases a perception from the point of our culture. It's not a definate diagnosis.
