Satan!!!!!!!!

[SheDevil1]

Let's talk about religion, and Satan!

So, any Satanists here, or am I alone? 🙁

 

[Blooble1]

I havn't really read into the satanism thing much, but i heard something about an upside down cross symbolising material over spirit. Could just be rubbish that I've head though. If anything I'm a Pagan though. 🙂 .

 

[SheDevil1]

I must say, I am impressed. I thought by far, that the first reply would be some sort of "OMG SATANIST U WORSHIP A DEVILGOD UR GOIN 2 HELL AN BURNNNNN!!!"
Thank you...but anyway, the upsidedown cross may symbolize that, but by no means is that my 'symbol'. It's just a symbol. 🙂

I wish more people wouldn't be so frightened to post.

 

[Blooble1]

Lol. I try. I might do a bit more research into it, but I know there is a lot of stereotyping involved with satanism, thinking that they are all bad people, but thats just stupid. It's good to keep an open mind. by the way, does satanism have any kind of magic involved like paganism or wicca?

 

[SheDevil1]

really depends. this 'magic' is more concerned with bettering oneself, instead of causing problems with other people. I don't mean to stereotype, but I've met many self-proclaimed wiccan 'magicians', and I was not impressed....each and every one that I've met is nothing more than a vindictive self-righteous hypocrite, and their 'magic' involves praying to false deities. That's not what satanism is about. As far as I am concerned, there's no reason to pray, because I'd be praying to myself.... 🙂

 

[Blooble1]

fair enough. 🙂 . I know what you mean though, I've seen a fair few pagan/wicans who are a bit odd. To each their own I suppose. This aint I'd be having at 4:00 in the morning though. 😛 .

 

[SheDevil1]

It's too bad that people are too frightened or too tired to 'get into it' over Satan, seeing as how 'his' name alone could spark a huge debate, just like 'Bush' or 'Kerry' or 'nazi'...

 

[Ghost_Host_9991]

I've read some books by LaVey (did I spell it right? RIP Anton) and the ideals of the philosophy seem to be very grounded and pragmatic...no weird ass fairy tale religious stuff, just the idea of doing what is right for you. There's no putting your faith in some invisible make believe man in the sky. It's about taking responsibility for making things better for yourself. From what I can tell the connection to Satan came from a desire to represent a school of thought that stood opposed to the fairy tale religions.

 

[MayDay1]

So who's the head of the Satanic church now? I know Anton LeVay died a few years ago but I have no idea who took over. Not that I keep track or anything. I personally don't give a whozit's what diety anyone prays to.

 

[CheshireCatNY]

(the former Theology major steps in) I seem to remember that Satanism has very little to do with Satan, but rather the absense of god. That there is nothing after this, you live, have exclusive control over everything that happens to you, then you die and cease to exist.

Now if you wanna talk about Satan you have to bring in both manifestation. One is the angel Lucifer who was cast down from heaven into predition with his followers, the other is the classic goat headed/hooved demon that has some connection with Lilith the true first woman (who was cast from the Garden of Eden because she refused to lay beneath Adam....YOU GO GIRL!) who is apparently the mother of all demons. There were so many damn rewrites we'll never really know the real story. I mean their are passages in the bible that claim that Lucifer WAS the serpent that offered the fruit of knowledge and later was also somehow the rebellious angel that was banned from heaven.

The second variation with the goat parts was just a manifestation concocted by early Christians trying to demonize the old faiths of the Greek empire. The god Pan, the quintessential "party god" into hedonism, drinking, permiscuity and any other guilty pleasure was easily sculpted into a demon of sin to sway the faithful greeks. Ever noticed they both got the half goat/half man thing going on?

Christians also clumped Wicca, Paeganism, the Druids and early Gaelic faiths in with the Satanist propoganda with their "frightening" beliefs oriented around earth spirits or faeries and elves. By all accounts the Catholic church created the demonized modern stereotypes that see Wiccans, Paegans and Satanists as evil and immoral.....

"What? Something different?? EVIIIIIIL!!!!"

Personally I think the greeks had the right idea. Hades wasnt being punished, it was just his job. Zeus ruled the sky, Poseiden ruled the Sea and Hades ruled the Underworld. Of course Hades was more of a Grim Reaper type character than a Devil. The realm of Hades can be compared to purgatory or limbo, a halfway point between worlds. The realm of Tartarus was the greek version of hell, a firely pit of eternal suffering controlled by the Titans.

My favorite Hell though is the Chinese Thousand Hells controlled by King Yama (also appears in the Hindu faith) which combines the aspects of Damnation and Reincarnation. There is a level for every type of sin, and depending how evil you were determines how long your torment will last. After your "sentence" is served, you're soul is cleansed and sent back to the living world to try again, in a lower state of existence than before of course. (A rich man who sinned would return as a beggar and so forth)

Funny side note I realized. One area of the world the Christians had the hardest time converting were the Eskimos, for one reason. When threatened with an eternity burning in hellfire, you gotta realize, its so cold an idea like that was actually appealing! They should have gone with the depiction of the lowest level of hell in Dantes Inferno, where you're frozen up to your head in ice....

 

[Ghost_Host_9991]

Didn't the goat imagery have to do with the Catholic church's split with the Knights Templar as well?

 

[CheshireCatNY]

They may have had a hand in it. In the end the true meaning of a "Devil" as far as the church was concerned was a figure, a pariah meant to represent all those who did not follow the Catholic Church. He became an amalgam pieced together from features of any and all taboo faiths and questionable traditions the Church wanted to demonize and whos followers they wanted to convert. Holy symbols like the pentagram and the anhk were strewn throughout and made publiclly unexceptable through the power of suggestion....

 

[SheDevil1]

Oh wow, people have been replying without MEEE. You bastards! But anyway, my original intentions weren't to get intellectual people to start replying. My intent was to get all the misinformed idiots to start arguing about Satan so I could laugh at them, and then laugh at them even harder as one of them realizes this is all a big joke to me! That's where I then expect to be told "oh you're evil, you're gonna burn" and then I laugh some more! But....wow, I appreciate that it seems as if you're not offended by my choice of 'religion'. Good job. I'm glad to see that I was right, there are smart people in the world. Just this night, I got into it with some Baptist idiot...I don't mean to bash Christianity so much, but it sort of comes with the 'religion'. Anyway, some people have a hard time grasping that most 'mainstream' accepted religions are just based off of others, and they also have a hard time grasping that there MAY not be an afterlife.

 

[shadowscurse1]

yeah ill just stay out of this one as im a christian and ill either just get insulted or called wrong repeatedly over and over again

 

[nessonite1]

I had a dream when I was about 14. Real creepy dream and at the end was some guy with a book with some sort of symbol on it. I had just finished reading a book about a teacher who suspects one of her kids is being involved in some sort of ritualistic child abuse with satanic overtones so I'm sure that's what put the idea in my head.
I went to the bookstore in the "New Age" or something section to see if I could find this symbol and I saw a picture of the guy I saw in my dream on the back of a book...The Satanic Bible!
Creepy!
Another useless tidbit from yours truly. 😛

 

[alf1]

Satan........hey it's scary just by writing it.......i..........i........arghhgghhhh :dead:

 

[SheDevil1]

SHEMHAMFORASH! HAIL SATAN!

-and all that good stuff. Satan is just a bogyman designed by the church to scare you away from having fun, so why not embrace him? If everyone who's anyone goes to hell, then hell should be a pretty fun place. Who wants to go to heaven to play with harps all day? I'd rather play with the naked devil ladies 😉

 

[alf1]

Satan is just a bogyman designed by the church to scare you away from having fun, so why not embrace him?

Some say god and satan are same being like yin/yang - day/night u c ?
And if you follow exactly what the church says : wooo boring life

 

[GuldenVleugel]

What I say is that Satan doesn't exist and that it would be dumb to worship him if he did exist. Masochism may be a reason or perhaps sado-/masochist mix. Even though I'm not saying I'll show less respect towards you in the post followed to this one, still don't I really encourage those so-called hypes of whorshipping the opposite of what is hated in a certain region (like in your case opposing Christianity).

Instead of Satanism I prefer realism.

EDIT: I do am interested in the Devil ladies though. But as an atheïst the afterlife I refuse believing in may force me into going to a floating islands of red wine and steaming sex. Just take a look at
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/72146 and
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/89087 .

 

[alf1]

Instead of Satanism

Mmh i think it's a religion too..........
Fact is that it's easier to scary people with Satan...........just see books, movies etc etc
Yah but what's the difference between devil and evil ?? behaviour ??

 

[cyclypse]

lol I am and forever will be Presbyterian. Why? Because we're the most laid back part of the christian faith! Basically, as long as I believe Jesus died for me, it doesn't matter how much I sin. I'm guarunteed paradise.

I'm not one of those overly zealous church goers who would just as soon throw you in the pit myself rather than be friends with you. I've met those people, and it's almost frightening. I respect people's opinions, and am pretty much accepting of everything. Except for Penecostle's (or however you spell it). I mean, I respect em... but they can't even watch movies! 😛

 

[alf1]

I'm guarunteed paradise.

That's unfair 🙄

you're talking about who at the end i don't get it

 

[cyclypse]

Another part of the christian faith. Again, not sure if i spelled it right. I have a friend who's a penecostle. They are NOT ALLOWED TO WATCH MOVIES. I am dead serious, not allowed to even rent em. Don't know why. Females are required to wear their hair long, and always wear skirts no matter where they are.

But it's funny. They don't mind it. Every penecostle i've met (especically the females) has always been the nicest (and happiest) people i've ever met.

That's unfair 🙄

Well, you could easily become one. Hell I went from being a lutheran, to a baptist, to a presbyterian practically overnight.

 

[nessonite1]

I think you're talking about the Jehova's Witnesses, Anime316. I went to school with a couple and they don't get to celebrate birthdays. It wouldnt surprise me if they couldnt see movies.
Or maybe you mean the Amish. 😛

 

[cyclypse]

lol i wouldn't be suprised either. But it is the "Pentecostals" (looked up the spelling) that have to abide by dress codes and what not, and yes can't watch movies. Though that didn't stop my friend from sneaking into a theater with me every now and then! ^^