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something i wrote.. need opinions

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hey.. so as a preface, i am not a writer.. ive never written a story before, especially not one like this completely out of the depths of my mind.. but today i started writing on an idea, and it ended up being kind of long and developed into the base of a story..

so i just want your opinions, whether its constructive criticism, deconstructive criticism, or anything at all.. just know that if you are rude and bite, i bite back.. i respect your opinion, so you dont have to be a dick about it

so anyway, here it is.. this is just the base of the story, im writing more tonight and i think im going to be working on it for quite some time..

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he walks the shadows, in the darkest of nights. searching for what was once his, for his meaning. for his soul. the darkness of his heart blends into his surroundings, making him disappear in an instant. he is a ghost, invisible to some, ignored by most. stuck in a paradox of a world, left for dead. his days are hard, the nights even harder. all he sees, reminds him of what he has lost and will never have, making him bitter about life, or what is left of it. his eyes glow red with unbridled, unwavering sorrow and misery. gazing into them causes you to simply lose your mind. all he touches is sucked dry of all signs of life. he makes a plant nursery full of flowers into a house of death, simply by entering. he moves on, from place to place, observing everything, taking everything in that this life has to offer. he speaks to some, but is heard by few. his words fall upon deaf ears, when they fly from his mouth at all.

but even with all this pain and misery in his eyes, can you not see the compassion and beauty underneath it all? can you not see a face that is filled with love? filled with passion? for he was not always a creature as such. fate, being the cruel bitch that she is, took everything from him. the pain overtook him, changing his demeanor, changing his appearance, changing his heart. as a person, he was a nice, polite, quiet-natured, good-hearted man. he was chivalrous, intelligent, and responsible. he still possesses these qualities inside him, but now he is left alone. a desolate wasteland of emotions. a train without tracks to run on. he almost becomes human again from time to time, when things seem to be on the right track. or when someone is capable of seeing what is inside him. but then fate bitchslaps him back to the shadows, where he is destined to remain. eyes glowing red with pain, heart glowing red with love.

he walks. the faint sound of parents shushing their children is heard as he approaches, accompanied by the sound of locking doors and windows. he moves through the town as a plague. but is he really the plague? or is he the cure? he stops in the center of the town, and looks around. curtains are seen ruffling as his red-eyed gaze meets them, as the residents are curious, but fear him. then there is a noise behind him, which enrages him. he turns to face the noise, and is shocked by what is before him. its a 3 year old little girl, dressed in pink, her hair in pigtails. she smiles at the man, as she is curious and knows not who he is. or what he is, rather. the man bends down on one knee and faces the little girl. she shys away a little bit in reaction, but does not flee. the man surveys his surroundings, and notices a watchful eye in a window. the mother of the child, no doubt, fearing for her childs life. but the man would never harm the child, for he would never harm a female or a child, let alone a female child. this child, also, can see what is inside him. she is blind to all the things everyone else sees in the man.

the man lifts his hood from over his eyes, and stares at the girl. then suddenly, things change. the mans eyes turn from a fiery red full of pain,
to a deep icy blue, a beautiful blue. a smile is on his face, and it is no longer a beast staring at this child. it is the man inside the beast, the man he used to be. the child's smile widens at the occurence. the man looks around, and gets up for a brief moment. he returns with a single pink flower, and gently presents it to the little girl. the little girl looks up at the man with appreciation and wonder. the child hugs the man, wrapping her tiny arms around his neck. the man hugs the child back, and feels his heart melting inside, for this child can see who he really is, who he is inside. he glances up and sees the eyes of the mother in the window full of fear. but to her surprise, her gaze is met not with the fiery eyes of the beast, but with the beautiful blue eyes of a young man. in an instant, her heart settles, she feels at ease. 'this man will not harm my child', she tells herself.

the child lets go of the mans neck, and there is a brief moment of silence. the man gets up, returns with another pink flower, and presents it to the child. the child looks confused, but takes the flower. 'for your mother' the man speaks to her, and the child nods. he places a hand gently on her cheek and says 'be well, child'. and he turns and walks away from the child, as his eyes slowly return to red.

the child returns to her house, and presents her mother with the flower from the beast-man. the mother takes it, and feels a strange feeling inside her. 'how could that beast be so gentle?' she thinks to herself. she places the flower in a vase of water and preservatives, keeping it as a lasting sign of the gentleness inside even a beast.

the man walks on, now back into his usual state. feeling watchful eyes on him from all corners, almost smelling the fear. he decides to stop and get a drink at the bar to ease his mind. he stops outside the door, lowers his hood over his eyes, and steps inside. upon entering, all eyes hit him and quickly look elsewhere. people part like the red sea as he walks toward the bar. he takes a seat, and orders a drink without even looking up. 'ill have a jack and coke, please' he tells the bartender. the bartender says nothing, but pours his drink and hesitantly places it in front of him, while stepping away at the same time. the man reaches into his pocket and pulls out his money, pays the bartender, and leaves a generous tip. from an overhead view, you can see nobody is within a 6 foot radius of the man, but all eyes keep glancing toward him. the bar is silent except for the muffled sound of the old jukebox playing some old time rock and roll.

he finishes his drink, and even though his mind is no more at ease than it was before, he gets up to leave. as he walks toward the exit, one of the local drunks hurls a bottle at him, and it crashes against the wall to the mans right. shards of glass spray like shrapnel, and a few dig into the only part of the mans skin visible and vulnerable, his cheek on the right side. the man stops walking. he feels fresh blood trickle down his face, along with the burning pain of the glass in his flesh. he cocks his head to the side, and surveys the room without turning his head all the way around. nobody moves except for one man, who is noticeably drunk but also noticeably nervous about what he just did and the consequences.

the beast-man is about to turn and face the man, when he notices a face in the window outside of the bar. it is the face of the woman, the mother of the child of whom he gave the flower. the mans eyes and the womans eyes lock, and the man feels a heat eminating from his skin. in his own reflection in the window, he can see his figure changing. most of all, he can see the red eyes fading into an icy blue. a smile breaks out on his face, and for a moment he forgets about the searing pain in his cheek and the blood which is now dripping to the floor. he is lost in the womans eyes, and she is lost in his.
he comes back to his senses, and turns to face the man who threw the bottle. their eyes meet, and the beast-man's eyes flash from blue to red, just for long enough to make the other man lose his mind and be overcome with fear. the man turns and walks out the door, while the other man shakes and orders himself another whiskey shooter.

a plethora of thoughts are raging in the mans mind as he steps out the door. 'what is she doing here?'. 'do i approach her?'. 'does she think i harmed her child?'. 'was she offended by the flower?'. he steps out the door and turns to the right, and the woman is 10 feet away from him. they both stand, staring at eachother, for what seems like an eternity. the man is apprehencious, not wanting to frighten the woman. the woman is in shock, still unable to believe the man changed from a man-beast to a young man when their eyes met, once again.

finally, after a lifetime, words are spoken. 'you're bleeding', says the woman. the man shrugs his shoulders and says 'its nothing' in a low voice. the woman starts moving slowly closer, but the man remains still. 'if you come back to my place, i can bandage you up before you head out' she says, while still moving closer to the man. she cant believe how the man-beast could turn into a 20-something attractive young man.. maybe this man is no beast at all?
'i wouldnt dream to cause you the trouble ma'am' replies the man, ''tis but a scratch, and will heal nicely on its own'. 'tis no trouble sir', replied the woman, 'consider it payback for the kindness you have shown me and my child' the man studies her face, unbelieving that anybody could be so hospitable toward him for such a simple manner of compassion and courtesy he has shown them, but the woman's face shows no signs of untruth.. just warmth. 'very well, however i require no compensation for such things, it was my pleasure' says the man. the man and the woman walk off toward the woman's house at the center of town, walking unusually close to eachother. 'do you have a name?' inquires the woman, after a brief silence

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thats all of it..

i made it a little easier to read by putting it in paragraphs.. hope that helps.. its probably stupid of me to post this here anyway, but maybe someone will have something to say about it

thanks to anyone who checked it out
 
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ummm.... keep your day job bass.

"he walks the shadows, in the darkest of nights. searching for what was once his, for his meaning. for his soul. the darkness of his heart blends into his surroundings, making him disappear in an instant. he is a ghost, invisible to some, ignored by most. stuck in a paradox of a world, left for dead. his days are hard, the nights even harder. all he sees, reminds him of what he has lost and will never have, making him bitter about life, or what is left of it. his eyes glow red with unbridled, unwavering sorrow and misery

It didn't click for me. Maybe others will see it differently.
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TKpervert said:
ummm.... keep your day job bass.

"he walks the shadows, in the darkest of nights. searching for what was once his, for his meaning. for his soul. the darkness of his heart blends into his surroundings, making him disappear in an instant. he is a ghost, invisible to some, ignored by most. stuck in a paradox of a world, left for dead. his days are hard, the nights even harder. all he sees, reminds him of what he has lost and will never have, making him bitter about life, or what is left of it. his eyes glow red with unbridled, unwavering sorrow and misery

It didn't click for me. Maybe others will see it differently.
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i am one who saw it differently....Bass emailed this to me yesterday..i think it's very well done..full of hidden meanings..maybe it's because i know Bass that i was able to understand what he is writing...however i find it beautifully written and descriptive...remember this is his first attempt..
 
Just skimmed it. Interesting, but a few things.

I think that first paragraph is overwrought. I understand wanting to set mood, but I think it's a bit much, and it seems out of place with the rest, to an extent.

I guess this fits in the realm of fantasy sort-of: He's changed physically from glowing red eyes to icy blue eyes... I wonder if there's anything else that makes him a beast? At first, I thought the description was merely indicative of his mood -- the difference between beast and man indicated by his posture, how he carries himself, his state of mind... But if his eyes are actually changing color and glow red, that's a different kind of beast.

Watch out for contradictions... If he's "invisible to some, ignored by most", as said in the first paragraph, how come parents shush their children and lock their doors? He may be shunned or even feared, but that's not being ignored.

Also, the sentence, "eyes glowing red with pain, heart glowing red with love." stuck out... It's not a contradiction, but it seems incongruent... If you're pained, love may not be in your heart -- not just love, anyway... Maybe unrequited love? You might want to clarify that. I mean, if it's just plain, good ol' love, but with pained glowing red eyes, get the poor bastard some Visine, or realize that you're writing for a demonic Care Bear. 🙂 Just kidding, but I think you know what I'm getting at...

Also, if we're establishing that his eyes in fact change color and glow, should we take literally that his heart is glowing red? These are things you may want to consider and better articulate so your reader doesn't get confused. Of course, I only got 3 hours of sleep last night, so I'm likely more confused than most...

Be careful not to build your protagonist up too big. In the end, he's still just a man... or a beast... or a man-beast... Hyperbolic statements like "but is he really the plague? or is he the cure?" seem a bit much, and melodramatic. And even if he were some world-changing person, you'd hardly want to give that away or allude to it so directly and so early.

Be careful about what person you're telling this story in... You go for 3rd person omniscient observer, but suddenly, the omniscient observer has the reader as a buddy in places: "...you can see nobody is within a 6 foot radius of the man..." Now you're telling it in second person for a line, and then switching back to third. It's something a lot of novice writers fall into, especially in screenplays and the like. Just remember, consistency is key. Stick with 3rd person omniscient if that's what you're going for, but don't include the reader like that, or else it starts sounding like a "Pick-a-Path Adventure" book.

Watch your cliches: "they both stand, staring at eachother, for what seems like an eternity." If it sounds familiar, it's too familiar, and you don't want to use it. Find something different for things like "seems like an eternity."

Watch your language. I'm not sure what time period you're going for, but again, consistency is key. I guess it's fairly modern, or there wouldn't be a jukebox, but then, the "tis but a scratch..." will, to some American ears, anyway, sound somewhat archaic. But then, mixing in terms like "20-something" sounds like you're writing for aging hipsters and modern 20-30-somethings. Maybe you could find a better way to describe that he's a little more than two decades old. "20-something" is conveniently short, but seems out of place. Be on the lookout for stuff like that.

Also, typical advice for writers is to "Shoot the Sheriff on the first page" -- that is, give us some action to jump onto immediately... Giving that block of description first off is a Hell of a hurdle for most readers to get past. I'm probably like you in that I love the beauty of description, but be careful not to fall in love with your own words. Shoot the sheriff. In the first paragraph. Maybe in the first sentence. Hell, it's often better to have shot the sheriff before, and when you start the first line, you're trying to hide the body. Now there's action, and a bit of backstory you can get into to explain how the protagonist got himself there to begin with.

Bass, don't give up. No one's Hemingway their first go round. If you like writing, write. You'll get better through practice, find your own mistakes more easily as you get accustomed to writing, and you'll practice if you love it. Good luck!

"If you hear a voice within you saying, 'You cannot paint,' then by all means paint... and that voice will be silenced." -- Vincent Van Gogh
 
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thank you, that is exactly what i was looking for capnmad..
i am by no means an author, i just started writing out of nowhere for the fun of it, so im going to make a lot of mistakes..

i didnt pick up on the contradiction about being ignored and then parents shushing their children, so thanks for pointing that out, ill fix it

the way he is a beast, is more metaphorical than physical in my mind.. like.. im kind of the inspiration for it.. the only physical change that is obvious is his eyes are red, but turn blue when someone sees him for who he is and not what he looks like.. and from experience, i can tell you other things change when you are going through pain and suffering.. such as how you carry yourself and your state of mind, like you stated.. you are more likely to slouch and carry yourself poorly if you are distraught and suffering, than you are if you are your normal happy self.. ill do more physical descriptions and be more concrete about things like that

haha no, his heart is not literally glowing red, it was just getting the point across.. he is in so much pain and suffering so much that his eyes glow red, and yet his heart is full of so much love and compassion that it 'glows' red

by saying 'is he really the plague? or is he the cure?' wasnt meant to make him sound world-changing or heroic in any way.. It was more of a shot at society.. how if someone looks different or weird, they are shunned like a plague and never accepted.. but they could really be the greatest person in the world..

i agree, i actually noticed today that i change from 3rd person to 2nd person and back to 3rd a bit.. and im working on that.. the version i have on my computer and not the one i posted is better.. i worked on it more last night

haha the cliches and the language.. ill have to come up with something better than 'for what seems like an eternity', no doubt.. i try not to use too many common phrases, but sometimes they slip in there.. and the language, i think its kind of funny how i made them talk, its just how it came out.. i wouldnt exactly say its archaic, but its definately not how people talk anymore.. ill work on it and try to stick to one time period's language haha

as for shooting the sherif on the first page, i got a great idea as soon as i read that.. so ill make the first paragraph different and it will be more attention grabbing.. good call

thanks so much man, your insight has taught me much
 
bass said:
hey.. so as a preface, i am not a writer.. ive never written a story before, especially not one like this completely out of the depths of my mind.. but today i started writing on an idea, and it ended up being kind of long and developed into the base of a story..

so i just want your opinions, whether its constructive criticism, deconstructive criticism, or anything at all.. just know that if you are rude and bite, i bite back.. i respect your opinion, so you dont have to be a dick about it

so anyway, here it is.. this is just the base of the story, im writing more tonight and i think im going to be working on it for quite some time..

**************************************

he walks the shadows, in the darkest of nights. searching for what was once his, for his meaning. for his soul. the darkness of his heart blends into his surroundings, making him disappear in an instant. he is a ghost, invisible to some, ignored by most. stuck in a paradox of a world, left for dead. his days are hard, the nights even harder. all he sees, reminds him of what he has lost and will never have, making him bitter about life, or what is left of it. his eyes glow red with unbridled, unwavering sorrow and misery. gazing into them causes you to simply lose your mind. all he touches is sucked dry of all signs of life. he makes a plant nursery full of flowers into a house of death, simply by entering. he moves on, from place to place, observing everything, taking everything in that this life has to offer. he speaks to some, but is heard by few. his words fall upon deaf ears, when they fly from his mouth at all.

but even with all this pain and misery in his eyes, can you not see the compassion and beauty underneath it all? can you not see a face that is filled with love? filled with passion? for he was not always a creature as such. fate, being the cruel bitch that she is, took everything from him. the pain overtook him, changing his demeanor, changing his appearance, changing his heart. as a person, he was a nice, polite, quiet-natured, good-hearted man. he was chivalrous, intelligent, and responsible. he still possesses these qualities inside him, but now he is left alone. a desolate wasteland of emotions. a train without tracks to run on. he almost becomes human again from time to time, when things seem to be on the right track. or when someone is capable of seeing what is inside him. but then fate bitchslaps him back to the shadows, where he is destined to remain. eyes glowing red with pain, heart glowing red with love.

he walks. the faint sound of parents shushing their children is heard as he approaches, accompanied by the sound of locking doors and windows. he moves through the town as a plague. but is he really the plague? or is he the cure? he stops in the center of the town, and looks around. curtains are seen ruffling as his red-eyed gaze meets them, as the residents are curious, but fear him. then there is a noise behind him, which enrages him. he turns to face the noise, and is shocked by what is before him. its a 3 year old little girl, dressed in pink, her hair in pigtails. she smiles at the man, as she is curious and knows not who he is. or what he is, rather. the man bends down on one knee and faces the little girl. she shys away a little bit in reaction, but does not flee. the man surveys his surroundings, and notices a watchful eye in a window. the mother of the child, no doubt, fearing for her childs life. but the man would never harm the child, for he would never harm a female or a child, let alone a female child. this child, also, can see what is inside him. she is blind to all the things everyone else sees in the man.

the man lifts his hood from over his eyes, and stares at the girl. then suddenly, things change. the mans eyes turn from a fiery red full of pain,
to a deep icy blue, a beautiful blue. a smile is on his face, and it is no longer a beast staring at this child. it is the man inside the beast, the man he used to be. the child's smile widens at the occurence. the man looks around, and gets up for a brief moment. he returns with a single pink flower, and gently presents it to the little girl. the little girl looks up at the man with appreciation and wonder. the child hugs the man, wrapping her tiny arms around his neck. the man hugs the child back, and feels his heart melting inside, for this child can see who he really is, who he is inside. he glances up and sees the eyes of the mother in the window full of fear. but to her surprise, her gaze is met not with the fiery eyes of the beast, but with the beautiful blue eyes of a young man. in an instant, her heart settles, she feels at ease. 'this man will not harm my child', she tells herself.

the child lets go of the mans neck, and there is a brief moment of silence. the man gets up, returns with another pink flower, and presents it to the child. the child looks confused, but takes the flower. 'for your mother' the man speaks to her, and the child nods. he places a hand gently on her cheek and says 'be well, child'. and he turns and walks away from the child, as his eyes slowly return to red.

the child returns to her house, and presents her mother with the flower from the beast-man. the mother takes it, and feels a strange feeling inside her. 'how could that beast be so gentle?' she thinks to herself. she places the flower in a vase of water and preservatives, keeping it as a lasting sign of the gentleness inside even a beast.

the man walks on, now back into his usual state. feeling watchful eyes on him from all corners, almost smelling the fear. he decides to stop and get a drink at the bar to ease his mind. he stops outside the door, lowers his hood over his eyes, and steps inside. upon entering, all eyes hit him and quickly look elsewhere. people part like the red sea as he walks toward the bar. he takes a seat, and orders a drink without even looking up. 'ill have a jack and coke, please' he tells the bartender. the bartender says nothing, but pours his drink and hesitantly places it in front of him, while stepping away at the same time. the man reaches into his pocket and pulls out his money, pays the bartender, and leaves a generous tip. from an overhead view, you can see nobody is within a 6 foot radius of the man, but all eyes keep glancing toward him. the bar is silent except for the muffled sound of the old jukebox playing some old time rock and roll.

he finishes his drink, and even though his mind is no more at ease than it was before, he gets up to leave. as he walks toward the exit, one of the local drunks hurls a bottle at him, and it crashes against the wall to the mans right. shards of glass spray like shrapnel, and a few dig into the only part of the mans skin visible and vulnerable, his cheek on the right side. the man stops walking. he feels fresh blood trickle down his face, along with the burning pain of the glass in his flesh. he cocks his head to the side, and surveys the room without turning his head all the way around. nobody moves except for one man, who is noticeably drunk but also noticeably nervous about what he just did and the consequences.

the beast-man is about to turn and face the man, when he notices a face in the window outside of the bar. it is the face of the woman, the mother of the child of whom he gave the flower. the mans eyes and the womans eyes lock, and the man feels a heat eminating from his skin. in his own reflection in the window, he can see his figure changing. most of all, he can see the red eyes fading into an icy blue. a smile breaks out on his face, and for a moment he forgets about the searing pain in his cheek and the blood which is now dripping to the floor. he is lost in the womans eyes, and she is lost in his.
he comes back to his senses, and turns to face the man who threw the bottle. their eyes meet, and the beast-man's eyes flash from blue to red, just for long enough to make the other man lose his mind and be overcome with fear. the man turns and walks out the door, while the other man shakes and orders himself another whiskey shooter.

a plethora of thoughts are raging in the mans mind as he steps out the door. 'what is she doing here?'. 'do i approach her?'. 'does she think i harmed her child?'. 'was she offended by the flower?'. he steps out the door and turns to the right, and the woman is 10 feet away from him. they both stand, staring at eachother, for what seems like an eternity. the man is apprehencious, not wanting to frighten the woman. the woman is in shock, still unable to believe the man changed from a man-beast to a young man when their eyes met, once again.

finally, after a lifetime, words are spoken. 'you're bleeding', says the woman. the man shrugs his shoulders and says 'its nothing' in a low voice. the woman starts moving slowly closer, but the man remains still. 'if you come back to my place, i can bandage you up before you head out' she says, while still moving closer to the man. she cant believe how the man-beast could turn into a 20-something attractive young man.. maybe this man is no beast at all?
'i wouldnt dream to cause you the trouble ma'am' replies the man, ''tis but a scratch, and will heal nicely on its own'. 'tis no trouble sir', replied the woman, 'consider it payback for the kindness you have shown me and my child' the man studies her face, unbelieving that anybody could be so hospitable toward him for such a simple manner of compassion and courtesy he has shown them, but the woman's face shows no signs of untruth.. just warmth. 'very well, however i require no compensation for such things, it was my pleasure' says the man. the man and the woman walk off toward the woman's house at the center of town, walking unusually close to eachother. 'do you have a name?' inquires the woman, after a brief silence

**********************

thats all of it..

i made it a little easier to read by putting it in paragraphs.. hope that helps.. its probably stupid of me to post this here anyway, but maybe someone will have something to say about it

thanks to anyone who checked it out
Hey, I thought it was pretty darn good. Good use of descriptive wording. I always enjoy meeting a fellow writer. Keep on writing.
 
thank you very much sexytickletoes 🙂
glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for reading
 
Happy to be of service, Bass... Feel free to run other material by me as you write it... I'm busy as Hell, but I need a good distraction now and then. 🙂
 
i suppose i should have offered some criticism of the writing, but i'm not good at doing that..i liked what i read... but wow Capn...great critique...do you write as well as draw? you do draw, right?
 
Yeah, I do a bit of everything. I like to fantasize that I'm a polymath, but in fact, I'm probably just an over-achieving dilettante. Right now, I'm... well, right now I'm typing -- procrastinating when I should be studying lines for a play (we're supposed to be off-book by Monday, and I'm in every scene for 70 pages -- Egads!). But yes, I act, I write, I draw... I'm doing some art for folks here, in fact -- a sig file for a friend, and just starting on some other stuff for a business... I've played around with writing -- once was serious about it until my hard drive crashed and without back-up, I lost two years of material. I'm looking to do a bit of erotic tickle-fiction in the future... A piece tentatively titled "27" (it'll have a far more interesting title, I suspect, once it's done) I'm just starting to plan out and will include illustrations, but it'll be long, and me and deadlines fight like cats and dogs, so don't anticipate it anytime before 2008. But yes, I love the arts. 🙂 Thanks for asking!
 
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