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something that just occurred to me about Star Wars

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In the original film, now episode 4, Obi-Wan was hiding out on Tattoine when he met Luke, but wasn't he wearing what we now know are traditional Jedi robes? Doesn't that make him the worst hider ever?
 
More and more, as Lucas revises and changes the Star Wars past, I'm convinced the Jedi are the worst at a lot of things....

"He's the chosen one! The chosen one! Well, unless the prophecy misread, it was!"

"He's too old to learn the ways of the Jedi - but let's teach him anyway! If we - I mean if HE, all by himself with no responsibility on our part - screws it up, we'll just go through the whole thing again 20 years later with his kid; gotta get right back on that horse, after all...!"

"All the Jedi have been killed!! Let's send out the secret signal to bring them back in now smaller numbers to the temple when the Jedi killer army is!!!"

"No, let's NOT send the Jedi back to the temple where the Jedi killer army is!!"

"The Force is a religion! No, it's biology!"

"Your father wanted you to have this light saber when you were old enough.... although he never actually told me that, and in fact thought your mother had died while you were still inside her. Anyway, he was killed by some completely other person....well.... from one's point of view, that is!"

"Emotions and passion are the way of the Sith! Wookies are known to pull arms out of sockets when they loose! Wookies = Sith! Who's side is their army really fighting on?!"

"Kid, I've been from one side of the galaxy to the other and never seen an all-powerful Force - & note that my Wookie companion has nothing to say to contradict me on the matter, even though he himself saw Jedis in battle!"

"What? A Sith Lord right here in front of us? And a lot of his friends in front of us? And Jedis deciding to quit the order, and we're not even keeping tabs on them? Kenobi, when you go into hiding, I hope you can hide as good as The Emperor does!"

"ONE of us Jedi masters ordered an entire clone army - and none of you other Jedi masters knew about it? What "master" is in the accounting office?"

"Let's give children laser swords!"

"We'll have a democracy - and have a queen lead it! Hey, I know: a queen with term limits, yeah!"

"The Sith master can only have one apprentice.... but he can keep replacing them! Hey - it's still only 'one'!"

Apparently, Jedi's greatest weaknesses are plot logic and continuity.
 
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Oddjob0226 said:
Apparently, Jedi's greatest weaknesses are plot logic and continuity.

No, those weakness' to Lucas belong they do.......

That's the main reason I havent watched a Star wars movie since I turned off episode 1 halfway through.. I am not one for mindless action and special effects...I like acting and plot lines that make sense.......


Ray
 
MTP Jeff said:
In the original film, now episode 4, Obi-Wan was hiding out on Tattoine when he met Luke, but wasn't he wearing what we now know are traditional Jedi robes? Doesn't that make him the worst hider ever?

This had me thinking.... when they caught Ted Kazinsky, he wasn't wearing the hooded sweatshirt, sun glasses and Jeri Kurl. O.J. in the white Bronco wasn't wearing pads and a helmet. You nailed a big plot point with that one, Jeff!
 
Lucas tried to connect the episodes the best he could and yeh a few things may seem confusing.

To me, episode III was better than the first two episodes. Although to some, that isnt saying much. I wish they would of made the movie at least three hours cause towards the end, it felt kinda rushed. They sorta shoved as much story as they could of. In the end, it was a fine movie. Also, I think yoda is pimp. 😎
 
I originally thought is must be rather easy to make a movie that is in between two existing ones; ala episode 3. For you know where you were, and you know where you need to be, so all you need to do is get there.

However, now that I saw the third one, I have a new opinion. Not only must you continue your own story line, with all of its own idiosyncracies, but you need to make sure everything that would be held into question is answered. While I wasn't a fan of them connecting as many strings in the last five minutes, I do understand why they needed to.

Oh, and by the way, doesnt this movie prove that James Earl Jones should never be in a role where he needs to scream in anguish? 🙂

BT
 
MTP Jeff said:
In the original film, now episode 4, Obi-Wan was hiding out on Tattoine when he met Luke, but wasn't he wearing what we now know are traditional Jedi robes? Doesn't that make him the worst hider ever?

Well.... trying to be kind to Lucas and Kenobi here.... it was establsihed (in Ep 1) that Tattoine was out on the Outer Rim (i.e. The Boondocks) where the Republic had little presence or influence and Jedi were very rarely seen... so wearing Jedi robes might not make you that conspicuous since most people wouldn't recognize them.....

But since we are on the subject.... if you wanted to hide the son of Anakin Skywalker, what would you do? Would you put him on Anakin's birthworld (near his hometown) and settle him with Anakin's step-brother UNDER HIS OWN FREAKIN' BIRTH-NAME!!!!!!??????

Of course, Vader and the Emperor never pick up on this.. too busy ruling the Galaxy with an iron fist, I guess....
 
korovan said:
Well.... trying to be kind to Lucas and Kenobi here.... it was establsihed (in Ep 1) that Tattoine was out on the Outer Rim (i.e. The Boondocks) where the Republic had little presence or influence and Jedi were very rarely seen... so wearing Jedi robes might not make you that conspicuous since most people wouldn't recognize them.....

But since we are on the subject.... if you wanted to hide the son of Anakin Skywalker, what would you do? Would you put him on Anakin's birthworld (near his hometown) and settle him with Anakin's step-brother UNDER HIS OWN FREAKIN' BIRTH-NAME!!!!!!??????

Of course, Vader and the Emperor never pick up on this.. too busy ruling the Galaxy with an iron fist, I guess....


You answered your own question about Luke, mostly. Tatooine is on the Outer Rim and is a pretty much insignificant world. Also, one other reason that the birth name was not that important is because it has been said that Skywalker is a common name in Star Wars. One other thing is that the name Skywalker no longer had any meaning to Anakin. Watch Return of the Jedi to see his original reaction when Luke calls him that.
 
I think a glaring continuity error is Darth Vader's blindingly British accent in Return of the Jedi. Since we now know Anakin spoke without that accent, where did he get this accent from?? And why does Padame still look pregnant at the funeral!? I suppose one could make the case they did that to cover up her birth, but they should have made that CLEAR in the movie. (Stuff her womb with lightsabers, we will!)

Lucas had many co-writers for his screenplays of the original Trilogy... he really should have swallowed his pride and let those co-writers come back on board because the manCANNOT write a good screenplay. The dialouge is just terrible. Yanks me right out of the moment.
 
Poor George. Looks like dialogue isn't the only thing he writes poorly. I like to think that somehwere, "X-Files" creator Chris Carter is going: "Jesus! And I thought I wrote myself into a corner."



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