Tickling and BDSM

[wendynpeter]

For those of you into bondage and tickle torture: Is what you do BDSM or not?

 

[TicklishLurker]

It's BDSM to me. I mean, it's tickle torture. It can drive you nuts. And I love it.

 

[sabaki]

BDSM is an incredibly broad term. If you lightly tickle someone while they're on the phone with another person, that is a sort of BDSM.

(If you strap someone naked to the front of your truck and go for an afternoon drive in suburbia, that's a kind of BDSM too).

It sounds like this is just a question of definitions. Could you elaborate more on the question, wendynpeter?

Edit: After thinking about it for a while, I'm going to have to disagree with myself. It's not the physical activity that matters; it's the thoughts and intentions that surround it. Whatever BDSM is, people agree that only consensual, intentionally undertaken, recreational (in a broad sense) activities count. I can't say much past that. Power exchange means something different for everyone. Who am I to tell Jim that any consenting thing he does with his wife behind closed doors is actually $PSYCHOLOGICAL_TERM?

Language is invented to communicate, so construing a term so broadly that it becomes meaningless isn't useful at all. But some terms are so weighed down with emotional, ethical, or political meaning for people that if you go about applying the wikipedia definition you'll run into trouble. All I can say is what Jim's activities would mean to me if I undertook them.

A good article I read about BDSM: meow. Maybe reading about and discussing these things will help someone come to a deeper understanding of themselves and how they can be happy.

 

[tickledgirl]

BDSM is an incredibly broad term. If you lightly tickle someone while they're on the phone with another person, that is a sort of BDSM.

(If you strap someone naked to the front of your truck and go for an afternoon drive in suburbia, that's a kind of BDSM too).

Yow!! Remind me never to agree go on an afternoon drive with you!! 🙂

 

[FeatheryOctopi]

I think tickling when involved with erotic situations would be considered BDSM. But friends tickling each other would just be fun/playing around. Sort of a problem I have actually. Due to my deep love of tickling it makes me feel out of place in social situations where tickling is happening or brought up. I feel that because of the way I feel it's wrong for me to persue it in a day to day basis with "normal" people. Tickling happens in all situations, so to specify would be rather difficult, but I would say tickling as a fetish, or any other fetish for that matter, would be under the BDSM guidelines.

 

[Mimi]

It is for Lazzy and I, at least when we have a serious full bondage session. We go beyond just the tickling itself though and put a lot of focus on the whole top/bottom relationship. Tickling is the main play we use to manipulate and control the bottom in our scenes.

~M

 

[milagros317]

Yes, it is BDSM. Some people into "harder" aspects of BDSM sneer at it, but others are terrified of tickle torture. 😛

 

[Strider]

I would have to say so, I've met people who'd rather be whipped or flogged than tickled.

 

[bellystrokes]

I would have to say so, I've met people who'd rather be whipped or flogged than tickled.

Hey hey, speak kindly of Persephone. hehehehe

 

[TickledToDeath]

Yes...indeeeeed it is.

 

[ShadowTklr]

I would agree with everyone so far. I think bondage and tickle torture is definitely characterized as BDSM. If not, then I've been doing this whole BDSM thing wrong!

 

[TickleMePleeze]

Yeah I think bondage with tickle torture is BDSM. But bondage and sensual tickling wouldn't have to be BDSM. My main reason for wanting to be tied up would be so I wouldn't have to feel guilty for selfishly taking all the lovely tickle attention and not reciprocating. If I couldn't reciprocate, then I could just relax and enjoy with no guilt about being selfish.

 

[new2sceenbob]

absolutely!

I absolutely consider bondage tickling to be a form of BDSM! So far every single person that I know who is into the BDSM scene agrees that it is also. Although not many BDSM "submissives" will tolerate it. Most submissives find that tickling is just to intense for them to handle! This leads me to believe that tickling can indeed be a form of torture, and that it is very powerful!

Sincerely,
Bob

P.S. - thanks for the topic, it's a good one in my opinion!

 

[Bagelfather]

still agree

Ah this thread has come up again 🙂 Yes I still think tickling can be BDSM. However, it is how you do it. I can have a tickle fight with our female roommate (who did make it to a gathering I might add) and it is NOT sexual and NOT bdsm. What I do with my sweety IS. (SMILE)

 

[seanc130]

I think something that people aren't pointing out is that 'BDSM' isn't necessarily one consistent 'thing'. In my opinion, it's a broad category. Something could be just B&D and D&S, or just D&S and S&M, or just plain S&M, or whatever.

For me personally, tickling is usually D&S, and under many circumstances (if bondage is involved, for example) also B&D, but never S&M. Others may feel differently. And many may use tickling as just one of a broad range of BDSM activities that together define their lifestyle.

 

[scorpionldr]

For those of you into bondage and tickle torture: Is what you do BDSM or not?

tickle torture, for me, in every sense of those words, is exactly that. Whether or not it's tied up it's still tickling.

 

[isrdew]

Depends where your point of view is coming from, I guess. It is BDSM to almost everyone here, probably. But to the people in the "real" BDSM scene - I've spoken to quite a few here in Israel - at least for most of them, it is not BDSM at all.

 

[ShadowTklr]

Depends where your point of view is coming from, I guess. It is BDSM to almost everyone here, probably. But to the people in the "real" BDSM scene - I've spoken to quite a few here in Israel - at least for most of them, it is not BDSM at all.

Then it is apparent that your BDSM contacts in Israel don't understand the nature and scope of BDSM at all. They are probably speaking under the pretext that BDSM must incorporate pain in order to be considered legitimate, or perhaps they define BDSM as a lifestyle, exclusively. BDSM is a pretty broad umbrella under which many types and variations of the theme apply with equal legitimacy.

 

[new2sceenbob]

that's the first time

Depends where your point of view is coming from, I guess. It is BDSM to almost everyone here, probably. But to the people in the "real" BDSM scene - I've spoken to quite a few here in Israel - at least for most of them, it is not BDSM at all.

Well, I have spoken to quite a few people in the real BDSM scene here in the United State, and every single one agrees that tickling(especially with bondages) is definitely a type of BDSM activity. This makes perfect sense since tickling can be, and has been, used as a form of torture! Of course BDSM is a very broad term that includes literally dozens of possible activities. Bondage tickling is the ONLY one of these activities that I am into actually doing(although I do enjoy watching some of the other activities). However, since I am into tickling, I definitely consider myself to be a part of the BDSM scene, and I have been accepted there...

Sincerely,
Bob