Tickling - fetish versus fixation

[vsa7a]

i presume most of you on this forum view it as a fetish. im not trying to be hypocritical or offensive in any way but...

i honestly think that people ought to take tickling as tickling and not some sort of perversion especially as a fetish. this way we can all make society or "the world" more acceptable of tickling. and if youre not a pervert and just enjoy tickling then take tickling as a fixation and not some porno fetish type of thing.

i also think as a result perhaps we need to call "Ticklephiles" something else including in NEST (even if we dont want to change its original name because were reluctant and/or that being a pain in the ass) in order to deglamorize that tickling is some sort of perverted fetish.

finally ive seen this alot we definitely clearly need to separate tickling versus foot fetishism or anything of other bodily sexual fetishism nature - tickling <b><u>MEANS</b></u> tickling not some perversion or fetish

a possible dictionary denotation of such include below from wikipedia

Tickling fetishism or <b>Acarophilia</b> is a paraphilia in which participants derive sexual stimulation from tickling, or being tickled by, another person. <b>Knismolagnia</b> is the experience of sexual gratification from the act of tickling. <b>Tickling fixation</b> is the interest of tickling without anything of sexual nature.

to sum it i want to know what everyone else thinks and im sorry if i had offended anyone but i do believe we need to deglamorize tickling as a sexual perverted fetish nature including the word "Ticklephile" to make it so it doesnt sound like pedophile and so the world can accept tickling as a pure fun nature. i mean maybe throw away those naked porno ads or something.
I am just trying to ask to see if we can campaign for tickling to be recognized as tickling to the world and not some sick shit people are afraid of.

Remember its <b>DEGLAMORIZE</b> peversion and fetishism and REINSTATE <u>as is - Tickling is Tickling. Period.</u>

also may i ask please as you post stay on topic with this subject title. ive seen this before and i dont want to hear something including but not limited to like this...

Tickler A: Hey Ticklee B, let's tickle there at your place!
Ticklee B: I'll be there waiting for you Tickler A.
(Later)
Tickler A: It was sure fun tickling you like this(position) at your place Ticklee B!

 

[Red Jester]

Tickling is treated as a perverted fetish here because thats exactly what it is to most people on this board. We can't completely reverse our instinct and separate tickling from sex, feet, or bondage. If we have to lie to ourselves and others all in the vain hope that tickling gets "accepted" by the world, then its a hollow victory.

 

[Deleted member 2452]

you sound as thought you believe we don't find it sexual

for the vast majority here tickling is sexual in some way.
for me it is not a true sexual fetish, and for most others too. being that a true fetish is something that is needed to achive orgasm. i just prefer to incorporate tickling into my male/female relations. think of it as icing on the cake.
b.t.w. what's wrong with tickphile? it denotes a person who is interested in tickling. i was one of the first to use that term, i came up with it after watching a show about people that love everything british, they were called anglo-philes. so if anything you should champion the term, as it can describe someone who isn't into sexual tickling.

 

[rhiannon]

Why do I get the feeling in this board that so many people here are ashamed of their own sexuality?

 

[6reppirhet]

Why do I get the feeling in this board that so many people here are ashamed of their own sexuality?

Probably because it's hard enough just to find someone you're compatible with, but when you add in an uncommon fetish (or "icing on the cake") then you're pretty much destined to experience some degree of embarrassment related to one's sexuality, which can then lead to shame.

vsa7a, thank you for posting an interesting topic, but I'm not sure what you want people to do about it. It kind of sounds like you're saying that to you it's not a fetish, but you realize to most people it is, and you wish people were more like you.

I don't disagree with you - far from it - but human sexuality is a complicated beast. You may not have those "feelings", but the people who do; they need somewhere to express them. And its not up to you or I to tell them they can't do it here.

That said, it is hard for people on here who are interested in non-naked tickling and such. It's difficult because one wrong click can lead you to something that could totally disgust you. But, that's the risk you take. I think it's in the ToS. (j/k)


p.s. Pardon my excessive use of second-person perspective.

 

[Speedbump]

Outside of this place, tickling is just tickling to those that aren't into it as we are. Those people will also only tickle for fun, and nothing like those messages from Tickler A to Tickler B at the bottom of your post.

Some people here are attracted to tickling without the sexual aspect of it, sure. I, myself, have been tickled for fun without any sexual attachment to it. it's not sexual all the time, but for the vast majority of people here, it's still sexual, and that's not going to change.

Don't overthink it. Honestly, it doesn't matter that much. It'll always be one, the other.

 

[rhiannon]

Probably because it's hard enough just to find someone you're compatible with, but when you add in an uncommon fetish (or "icing on the cake") then you're pretty much destined to experience some degree of embarrassment related to one's sexuality, which can then lead to shame

Sounds to me like you know the wrong people! 🙂 I mean, of course you have to know who you talk to about your preferences (I am NOT saying fetish ). It's not like people are running around on the streets telling everybody "Hey, I'm straight, gay, like feet or whatever".

I for my part only reveal that I am turned on by tickling only to people who are close to me. And no one of them EVER thought different of me afterwards, thought I was perverted or anything like that.

 

[Speedbump]

Sounds to me like you know the wrong people! 🙂 I mean, of course you have to know who you talk to about your preferences (I am NOT saying fetish ). It's not like people are running around on the streets telling everybody "Hey, I'm straight, gay, like feet or whatever".

I for my part only reveal that I am turned on by tickling only to people who are close to me. And no one of them EVER thought different of me afterwards, thought I was perverted or anything like that.

Yeah, exactly. If anyone thinks differently of you afterwards, that you're weird or something, then they obviously weren't that great of friends to begin with. I've told a few people about it, and I've always been either accepted for it, or teased about it for a few minutes and then everything was fine. I did once get a "that's kinda weird" and we never talked about it again, but the person never treated me any different, mostly I just don't think she cared.

It's too bad some people get worse treatment from people. But in my opinion, the people you'd want to associate yourself with are the people that will accept you for who you are.

Something as simple as being turned on by tickling shouldn't come between anyone.

 

[rhiannon]

Amen 🙂

 

[6reppirhet]

Sucks to be me I guess. I've really only been with one girl who I got a good reaction from. For the few others I've told, the "weirdness" was a deal-breaker.

Is this really not a common occurance for people? I'm hardly shouting confessions from rooftops; I'm actually pretty secretive.

 

[NavelTickler75]

Tickling or watching tickling does turn me on, but I have found with training, I can control the instinct to allow that sexual desire to control me. So is tickling a fetish? I do think so, yes. But does that mean you HAVE to give in to it? No, I do not think so. A fetish is an instict, not a master.

 

[The Last Laugh]

i honestly think that people ought to take tickling as tickling and not some sort of perversion especially as a fetish.

Well, personally, I certainly don't see it as a perversion. Also, truth be told, most ticklephiles aren't even fetishists per se. When you're a real fetishist, you need a specific body part, object or activity that's not typically considered sexual to get aroused. That's the rare extreme. Most people here have normal sexual lives and interests, with tickling as an added bonus. What's wrong with that? They're not totally obsessed with tickling in the freaky way that you're suggesting.

You can't expect people who hang around tickling forums to take "tickling as tickling", since it's obviously erotic to them to some degree. It it weren't the case, what would be the point of forums like the TMF? Who would care?

I think you're making a mistake by (apparently) assuming that tickling is a perverted obsession for the typical ticklephile.

i also think as a result perhaps we need to call "Ticklephiles" something else including in NEST

Why? The term "tickephile" doesn't sound at all negative to me. It's a lot more down to earth than "tickle fetishist", and it just means that the person enjoys tickling. Unless you're uncomfortable with words that end in "phile", like you can't help but associate them with "pedophile" or something (in which case your vocabulary and understanding of the meaning of words would be quite limited), I don't see the problem.

 

[Azrael]

This, is an Adult-oriented Website. Take a look at the naked advertisements and the prodigious quantity of pornography, if you've forgotten that little fact.

I find tickling to be sexually arousing. This Site was made primarily to cater to people like me, who had nowhere else to turn for a sense of belonging and community.

If that makes you uncomfortable, I'm sorry... but, meaning no offense, and not meaning to be hypocritical...

Go away.

I am not going to 'watch what I say' or lie about my sexual preferences at a Website freakin' made to cater to them and provide a community based around that idea because a few people just stepped off the Mayflower and think anything other than foreplay-free missionary sex with a baby in mind is perverted. The only one violating the natural order here is you, pal.

Don't tell me to be ashamed of myself, because you're having some kind of moral crisis with your own urges.

i presume most of you on this forum view it as a fetish. im not trying to be hypocritical or offensive in any way but...

i honestly think that people ought to take tickling as tickling and not some sort of perversion especially as a fetish. this way we can all make the world more acceptable of tickling. and if youre not a pervert and just enjoy tickling then take tickling as a fixation and not some porno fetish type of thing.

i also think as a result perhaps we need to call "Ticklephiles" something else including in NEST (even if we dont want to change its original name because were reluctant and/or that being a pain in the ass) in order to deglamorize that tickling is some sort of perverted fetish.

finally ive seen this alot we definitely clearly need to separate tickling versus foot fetishism or anything of other bodily sexual fetishism nature - tickling <b><u>MEANS</b></u> tickling not some perversion or fetish

a possible dictionary denotation of such include below from wikipedia

Tickling fetishism or <b>Acarophilia</b> is a paraphilia in which participants derive sexual stimulation from tickling, or being tickled by, another person. <b>Knismolagnia</b> is the experience of sexual gratification from the act of tickling. <b>Tickling fixation</b> is the interest of tickling without anything of sexual nature.

to sum it i want to know what everyone else thinks and im sorry if i had offended anyone but i do believe we need to deglamorize tickling as a sexual perverted fetish nature including the word "Ticklephile" to make it so it doesnt sound like pedophile and so the world can accept tickling as a pure fun nature.

Remember its <b>DEGLAMORIZE</b> peversion and fetishism and REINSTATE <u>as is - Tickling is Tickling. Period.</u>

also may i ask please as you post stay on topic with this subject title. ive seen this before and i dont want to hear something including but not limited to like this...

Tickler A: Hey Ticklee B, let's tickle there at your place!
Ticklee B: I'll be there waiting for you Tickler A.
(Later)
Tickler A: It was sure fun tickling you like this(position) at your place Ticklee B!

 

[vsa7a]

okay..

im sorry not to add that im not against someone morally or anything who views tickling as sexual or whatever. i also need to add that i posted this topic to get peoples opinions to see perhaps maybe we can campaign towards society (including US) to accept tickling as tickling and not something they view deviates or is of abominable or something like that. oh yes and i am not assuming anything. im saying perhaps what the world impression or eye of the beholder or whomever would view tickling as.

what do you think would this vision or goal be? lets say we took down the naked porn ads, deglamorized tickling as a sexual nature and maybe even change the word "Ticklephile" to prevent someone from thinking pedophile. maybe even lean towards an actual dictionary denotation to mean a tickle fanatic as i gave the examples.

i thought about perhaps tickling has changed than what it originally is and it seemed that tickling got associated with fetish and what you see for tickling for the most part doesnt look like tickling but instead for example oh yeah this person came up to that person and scratched that person rowdily. it looked like they scratched instead of tickled. not to mention tickling seemed to deteoriate (i cant spell) decay when coupled with fetishism. like for example on TMF i see peoples became solely interested in foot fetish and theres no tickling at all existing anywhere.

that being said this is the <b>Tickling</b> Media Forum i am more importantly trying to reinstate "Tickling" back as "Tickling" and to do so may indefinitely have to deglamorize "fetish" or "sexuality" otherwise you dont see if any tickling.

If campaign-wise deglamorize fetish and sexuality but for me personally im not necessary saying totally eliminating it. i hope im not being hypocritical but im seeing if anyone get my point and see this vision.

 

[The Last Laugh]

and maybe even change the word "Ticklephile" to prevent someone from thinking pedophile.

Ah, I knew that was part of the reason why you had an issue with the term ticklephile. I don't mean to be rude, but it seems to me that associating a word with with "pedophile" just because there's "phile" in it is somewhat ignorant. The suffix "phile" isn't bad in and of itself. After all, it means "to like", or "to have an affinity for". If you can't help but think of "pedophile" when you hear another word with the same ending but with a completely different meaning, well, it's kind of sad. But that's your problem.

 

[Deleted member 2452]

sounds like mr. vsa7a has a history

maybe he was molested as a kid, and the "phile" ending causes the heebie jeebies?

 

[Red Jester]

Well I could right a three paragraph post explaining why your vision is flawed, but I'm going to keep it simple.


No.

 

[Mehstra]

I know this has been said to death, but I just have to put in my two cents. I am a ticklephile. I'm proud of it. (Albeit it's a private pride, as my girlfriend is the only person who knows this.) The point is, I'm turned on sexually by tickling, by being tickled, and by seeing other people be tickled. That's why I come to this site; for porn. I find most mainstream pornography to be, to put in bluntly, boring. As such, I come here, to find porn based around my own personal perversion. I see no reason for this deliberately adult-oriented (read - porn) site to remove the very content for which people seek here.
Let me put this another way (because I love hearing myself talk). You say you wish to "deglamorize" tickling as a sexual fetish. Would you deny that there are people out there who do identify themselves as having a sexual fetish for tickling? If not, then "tickling fetish" and "ticklephile" do not have to be renamed or redefined, because they are both perfectly adequate terms, even if they do not apply to you.
As to your comment about not wanting to see foot fetish or BDSM porn here that doesn't have any tickling in it, I hear you there. All I can say is I just don't watch it. I've seen pictures and read stories here that haven't interested me or in some cases have frankly disgusted me. That's just the risk you run when you come to a site like this. You just have to ignore it and move on.

 

[rhiannon]

i also need to add that i posted this topic to get peoples opinions to see perhaps maybe we can campaign towards society (including US) to accept tickling as tickling and not something they view deviates or is of abominable or something like that.

Guess what....most people who are not turned on by tickling actually DO accept tickling as tickling and nothing else! 🙂 Nobody looks at sandals as something sexual just because there are people who like feet! 🙂

Most of the time when I tell people about my preferences, they have never heard that tickling can actually be related to sexuality and are quite surprised.

So I really do not see a problem here! 🙂

 

[NavelTickler75]

im sorry not to add that im not against someone morally or anything who views tickling as sexual or whatever. i also need to add that i posted this topic to get peoples opinions to see perhaps maybe we can campaign towards society (including US) to accept tickling as tickling and not something they view deviates or is of abominable or something like that. oh yes and i am not assuming anything. im saying perhaps what the world impression or eye of the beholder or whomever would view tickling as.

what do you think would this vision or goal be? lets say we took down the naked porn ads, deglamorized tickling as a sexual nature and maybe even change the word "Ticklephile" to prevent someone from thinking pedophile. maybe even lean towards an actual dictionary denotation to mean a tickle fanatic as i gave the examples.

i thought about perhaps tickling has changed than what it originally is and it seemed that tickling got associated with fetish and what you see for tickling for the most part doesnt look like tickling but instead for example oh yeah this person came up to that person and scratched that person rowdily. it looked like they scratched instead of tickled. not to mention tickling seemed to deteoriate (i cant spell) decay when coupled with fetishism. like for example on TMF i see peoples became solely interested in foot fetish and theres no tickling at all existing anywhere.

that being said this is the <b>Tickling</b> Media Forum i am more importantly trying to reinstate "Tickling" back as "Tickling" and to do so may indefinitely have to deglamorize "fetish" or "sexuality" otherwise you dont see if any tickling.

If campaign-wise deglamorize fetish and sexuality but for me personally im not necessary saying totally eliminating it. i hope im not being hypocritical but im seeing if anyone get my point and see this vision.

I have thought as you have, and to be honest, unless more people start buying vids and clips with non sexual or nude tickling in them, unfortunately they are going to stay. I do get that now, I just turn my eyes to them, and not look.

In all honesty we're all hypocritacal in one way, shape or form, each and everyone one of us, of course not dealing with tickling alone, but perhaps in some other form of life. That honestly can not nor will it stop. "I want to protect the enviroment, but I'll vote for a guy who wants to drill for oil." "I think abortion is wrong and bad, but I will vote for this person because he is the better canditate, even though he has promised to keep abortion legal or make it a major issue with his campaign."

So I am not slamming you for that. And I don't think any one is. Its just part of being human. We might WANT to do or think the best, but when reality slams in our faces, we stare we have to ACT responcibly.

 

[NavelTickler75]

maybe he was molested as a kid, and the "phile" ending causes the heebie jeebies?

Perhaps, but for the sake of not getting into a flame war, let's not bring that up.

 

[vsa7a]

no fyi i was never molested as a kid or anytime in my life. and that was definitely uncalled for. im only asking perhaps we can do something that does not arouse suspicion that tickling is some sort of perversion (even if you guys think it is) and an example of that is when using the term "phile" in "ticklephile" it could be like the impression to someone oh he's a pedophile or something crazy shit like that.

hey i know to you guys this is porn but im asking where is the main subject? This is the "Tickling" Media Forum. wheres the tickling? WTF? even though you can just simply ignore all the nudity and whatnot but its kind of hard to ignore the main interest is going away which is Tickling! in fact to me its very hard to see that you see porn and virtually little to no tickling or the tickling looks like some rape or rubbish. go by someone and scratch them. thats not tickling. i dont mind the porn but i do mind that it seems that tickling which the forum is named after is not treated like if it were the main subject. instead it seemed to be treated as a feature and oh yeah "additional bonus".

 

[Speedbump]

no fyi i was never molested as a kid or anytime in my life. and that was definitely uncalled for. im only asking perhaps we can do something that does not arouse suspicion that tickling is some sort of perversion (even if you guys think it is) and an example of that is when using the term "phile" in "ticklephile" it could be like the impression to someone oh he's a pedophile or something crazy shit like that.

hey i know to you guys this is porn but im asking where is the main subject? This is the "Tickling" Media Forum. wheres the tickling? WTF? even though you can just simply ignore all the nudity and whatnot but its kind of hard to ignore the main interest is going away which is Tickling! in fact to me its very hard to see that you see porn and virtually little to no tickling or the tickling looks like some rape or rubbish. go by someone and scratch them. thats not tickling. i dont mind the porn but i do mind that it seems that tickling which the forum is named after is not treated like if it were the main subject. instead it seemed to be treated as a feature and oh yeah "additional bonus".

Dude, have you looked at the site outside of Tickling Discussion? There are tickling stories, videos, mainstream lists, pictures, everything, how is it that the site is mostly not about tickling? There are areas for non-tickling discussion because this is a community and people are interested in other things and also want to talk to everyone about things such as politics, religion, or just anything they feel like bringing up.

There is more than enough tickling content on this site, so you confuse me. Whether or not it's porn to you, it's still tickling.

 

[LindyHopper]

"Normal" people don't view tickling as a fetish or perversion, any more than you probably think of sneezing, clowns, or balloons as perversions. The average person considers tickling to be a perfectly acceptable activity, and society as a whole has no problem with it.

"Normal" people don't come to this site and see the porn. The TMF is frequented by people who have a special interest in tickling; it is not a web surfing destination for anyone else. This site does not shape how the average person views tickling, because the average person is never going to see it.

When a "ticklephile" has trouble introducing a "normal" person to tickling, if that "normal" person concludes that tickling is some kind of perverted fetish.... I have to conclude that the problem is in the approach. If the "ticklephile" treats the situation with anxiety, acts like his interest is something to be ashamed of, and right out of the gate shows his girlfriend video clips of girls being tickled until they pee... of course the poor girl's going to freak out. But it's not the fault of the fetish if the particular guy in question doesn't know how to deal with it appropriately.

I think the majority of people on this forum perceive tickling as sexual, and enjoy their tickling fetish, whether they choose to call it that or not. We have no problem with tickling, and society has no problem with us. If some individuals do have a problem, they need to deal with that directly, rather than telling those of us who are happy what to do and how to live.

 

[The Last Laugh]

im only asking perhaps we can do something that does not arouse suspicion that tickling is some sort of perversion (even if you guys think it is) and an example of that is when using the term "phile" in "ticklephile" it could be like the impression to someone oh he's a pedophile or something crazy shit like that.

I still don't understand why you make that association and assume that people will do the same just because the two terms share the same suffix. I used to keep tropical fish and considered myself an aquariophile. I even used that exact term in my resume in the hobbies section. Do you think people who read it were under the impression that I was a pervert who liked to have sex with fish?