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Tickling & Foot fetish.. the chicken or the egg dilemma

Vellication86

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This may resonate with some in the TMF community (and others it definitely doesn't). I also want to speak from the heart and acknowledge that I'm not always acting in the best light of public opinion here..

I've only had maybe two or three partners where I could totally share my vulnerabilities surrounding these fetishes and unfortunately they were pretty much extramarital except for when I was a 20 years old perhaps. With that said, I could never figure out if I was more into one of these than the other, or which came first.

I do recall at a young age, I was always fascinated with female feet. I can barely recall this secret excitement when my aunt (through marriage) would visit from out of town and I'd see her 30-something year old feet under the table at dinner or her heels discarded at the front door. Growing up in the early 90's, my heart would beat through my chest and my breathing would change when those Don Turtelli episodes of TMNT would come on TV and April, Caitlyn (and Zach) were non-consensually tickled. I'd be paralyzed in front on the screen for 5 minutes.

But it also didn't seem to end with the tickling. I loved the way that April O'Neil had one boot removed but one still on. Her cartoon foot looking so white and delicate. That boot looked hot, both literally and figuratively and her warm, freshly bared foot was on display.

I eventually learned that feet could do the same thing for me. I remember this same pounding in my chest and now sexual excitement in my teen years when my older brothers girlfriend (now his wife) left her shoes unattended. One time she left a pair of black combat boots at the house for a few days and I must have looked like an anteater burying my snout in there trying to explore that scent. Her feet didn't smell unfortunately, or at least I didn't detect anything, but it was still enjoyable to get this whiff of perfume and I could maybe detect some old cigarette smoke. I'd occasionally take the opportunity to give her shoes a sniff if the opportunity presented itself. It gave me some powerful fantasies because I knew how ticklish her feet were as well. My brother doesn't share these fetishes that I do, but innocently tickled her foot once and she reacted in an almost angry way and explicitly stated to him how ticklish her feet were and that she refused to get professional pedicures.

Years would pass before I could get my hands on any girls feet but eventually I got a few FJ's along the way and quickly developed a strong desire for them. I do hate to admit that I felt the need to stoop to some low actions like temporarily borrowing shoes and using them to get off. This touched off a whole other addiction unfortunately. I was getting EXTREME sexual thrills from sneaking off and sniffing the footwear of female colleagues. One woman in particular had these black tactical work boots and at the end of the work day, she'd leave them in the locker room. There's almost no words to describe how powerful of a reaction this had on me. 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, she would wear these boots that she easily must have been using for 5 years. The sweat mixed with leather and perfume produced the most intoxicating aroma and I'd finish rather quickly. I've taken steps to stop this kinda behavior but geez. That one is a toughy and I know it's wrong.

It brings me to my next point of consensual activity. When you take a minute and try to look at things in the eyes of reality, yes of course you don't want to submit someone to something against their will but the fantasy of nonconsensual tickling seems to "get me". I seem to struggle with this violation aspect of my kink and love tickling as punishment.. I love how uncomfortable and embarrassed women may get when they're forced to remove their shoes unexpectedly or in an embarrassing public situation. If you've seen my posts in the mainstream section, I love that embarrassed reaction when a woman gets a pedicure or a college student gets her reflexes on her feet checked during nursing practicals.. That buildup of them having their shoe and sock removed (sometimes in front of a room full of people) And their foot is touched and it caused them to jerk their leg back as if 12,000 volts just hit it.. and then there's a racial aspect that I seem to seek out where white women get tickled by another race. Not sure if there's a "retribution" fantasy living in me.

Sorry to go on for so long.. needed to vent
 
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Interesting reflections. Regarding others, if what you are wondering is whether people's interest in feet sparked their interest in tickling, or vice versa, I've chatted with people who believe both angles for their personal situation, as well as those who it doesn't apply to due to them having no interest in feet whatsoever, while still being completely obsessed with tickling. For me personally–and this is as best as I can tell, since it goes back as far as my memory does (somewhere around age 2-4)–I strongly believe these two things to be very complimentary, but completely independent in origin. I've loved both since the beginning of what I know as me. Sure, I like tickling feet, but I've always kind of treated them separately, only thinking of both together if reason for both grabbed my attention simultaneously.

Regarding the TMNT episodes you mentioned, I was very young when those aired, but I remember being transfixed by them. I already was interested in feet and tickling by that point, but as best as I can tell, watching those may be the first instance where I linked the two separate interests. From that point on, I would still think of one without the other sometimes, but if a pair of feet were in front of me, I did often think about both.
 
This may resonate with some in the TMF community (and others it definitely doesn't). I also want to speak from the heart and acknowledge that I'm not always acting in the best light of public opinion here..

I've only had maybe two or three partners where I could totally share my vulnerabilities surrounding these fetishes and unfortunately they were pretty much extramarital except for when I was a 20 years old perhaps. With that said, I could never figure out if I was more into one of these than the other, or which came first.

I do recall at a young age, I was always fascinated with female feet. I can barely recall this secret excitement when my aunt (through marriage) would visit from out of town and I'd see her 30-something year old feet under the table at dinner or her heels discarded at the front door. Growing up in the early 90's, my heart would beat through my chest and my breathing would change when those Don Turtelli episodes of TMNT would come on TV and April, Caitlyn (and Zach) were non-consensually tickled. I'd be paralyzed in front on the screen for 5 minutes.

But it also didn't seem to end with the tickling. I loved the way that April O'Neil had one boot removed but one still on. Her cartoon foot looking so white and delicate. That boot looked hot, both literally and figuratively and her warm, freshly bared foot was on display.

I eventually learned that feet could do the same thing for me. I remember this same pounding in my chest and now sexual excitement in my teen years when my older brothers girlfriend (now his wife) left her shoes unattended. One time she left a pair of black combat boots at the house for a few days and I must have looked like an anteater burying my snout in there trying to explore that scent. Her feet didn't smell unfortunately, or at least I didn't detect anything, but it was still enjoyable to get this whiff of perfume and I could maybe detect some old cigarette smoke. I'd occasionally take the opportunity to give her shoes a sniff if the opportunity presented itself. It gave me some powerful fantasies because I knew how ticklish her feet were as well. My brother doesn't share these fetishes that I do, but innocently tickled her foot once and she reacted in an almost angry way and explicitly stated to him how ticklish her feet were and that she refused to get professional pedicures.

Years would pass before I could get my hands on any girls feet but eventually I got a few FJ's along the way and quickly developed a strong desire for them. I do hate to admit that I felt the need to stoop to some low actions like temporarily borrowing shoes and using them to get off. This touched off a whole other addiction unfortunately. I was getting EXTREME sexual thrills from sneaking off and sniffing the footwear of female colleagues. One woman in particular had these black tactical work boots and at the end of the work day, she'd leave them in the locker room. There's almost no words to describe how powerful of a reaction this had on me. 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, she would wear these boots that she easily must have been using for 5 years. The sweat mixed with leather and perfume produced the most intoxicating aroma and I'd finish rather quickly. I've taken steps to stop this kinda behavior but geez. That one is a toughy and I know it's wrong.

It brings me to my next point of consensual activity. When you take a minute and try to look at things in the eyes of reality, yes of course you don't want to submit someone to something against their will but the fantasy of nonconsensual tickling seems to "get me". I seem to struggle with this violation aspect of my kink and love tickling as punishment.. I love how uncomfortable and embarrassed women may get when they're forced to remove their shoes unexpectedly or in an embarrassing public situation. If you've seen my posts in the mainstream section, I love that embarrassed reaction when a woman gets a pedicure or a college student gets her reflexes on her feet checked during nursing practicals.. That buildup of them having their shoe and sock removed (sometimes in front of a room full of people) And their foot is touched and it caused them to jerk their leg back as if 12,000 volts just hit it.. and then there's a racial aspect that I seem to seek out where white women get tickled by another race. Not sure if there's a "retribution" fantasy living in me.

Sorry to go on for so long.. needed to vent

You can bury the lead if you want to.
You can present yourself as a person who is misunderstood and struggling with not treating women as human beings who deserve respect and voice for their consent.
You can post your post and have men feel sorry for you as if you are a victim of YOUR own choices.
You can even make a statement after pouring your lil heart out about women being embarrassed, humiliated, and violated about how race even plays a part.

And I don't care if I spend the next 20 years speaking against this shit just like I have spent the past 20 years doing the same. This is wrong and you know it. Fuck your venting. 💁🏾

All you men who create a safe space for this and respond and say how interesting this is, but stay silent when TMFers disparage and abuse women, promote misogyny, and/or push white supremacy.... All of you bystanders are also part of the problem.

So- this post is yet another reason why TMF is not a safe place for many women. And this is yet another reason why TMF is not always safe place for people of color. The fact that you not only feel safe, but you also have people who will paint these atrocities with a cheery silver lining speaks volumes to the changes that still need to take place in this community.

This is bullshit, and I don't care if no one else says it.
It'll be me.
 
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This may resonate with some in the TMF community (and others it definitely doesn't). I also want to speak from the heart and acknowledge that I'm not always acting in the best light of public opinion here..

I've only had maybe two or three partners where I could totally share my vulnerabilities surrounding these fetishes and unfortunately they were pretty much extramarital except for when I was a 20 years old perhaps. With that said, I could never figure out if I was more into one of these than the other, or which came first.

I do recall at a young age, I was always fascinated with female feet. I can barely recall this secret excitement when my aunt (through marriage) would visit from out of town and I'd see her 30-something year old feet under the table at dinner or her heels discarded at the front door. Growing up in the early 90's, my heart would beat through my chest and my breathing would change when those Don Turtelli episodes of TMNT would come on TV and April, Caitlyn (and Zach) were non-consensually tickled. I'd be paralyzed in front on the screen for 5 minutes.

But it also didn't seem to end with the tickling. I loved the way that April O'Neil had one boot removed but one still on. Her cartoon foot looking so white and delicate. That boot looked hot, both literally and figuratively and her warm, freshly bared foot was on display.

I eventually learned that feet could do the same thing for me. I remember this same pounding in my chest and now sexual excitement in my teen years when my older brothers girlfriend (now his wife) left her shoes unattended. One time she left a pair of black combat boots at the house for a few days and I must have looked like an anteater burying my snout in there trying to explore that scent. Her feet didn't smell unfortunately, or at least I didn't detect anything, but it was still enjoyable to get this whiff of perfume and I could maybe detect some old cigarette smoke. I'd occasionally take the opportunity to give her shoes a sniff if the opportunity presented itself. It gave me some powerful fantasies because I knew how ticklish her feet were as well. My brother doesn't share these fetishes that I do, but innocently tickled her foot once and she reacted in an almost angry way and explicitly stated to him how ticklish her feet were and that she refused to get professional pedicures.

Years would pass before I could get my hands on any girls feet but eventually I got a few FJ's along the way and quickly developed a strong desire for them. I do hate to admit that I felt the need to stoop to some low actions like temporarily borrowing shoes and using them to get off. This touched off a whole other addiction unfortunately. I was getting EXTREME sexual thrills from sneaking off and sniffing the footwear of female colleagues. One woman in particular had these black tactical work boots and at the end of the work day, she'd leave them in the locker room. There's almost no words to describe how powerful of a reaction this had on me. 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, she would wear these boots that she easily must have been using for 5 years. The sweat mixed with leather and perfume produced the most intoxicating aroma and I'd finish rather quickly. I've taken steps to stop this kinda behavior but geez. That one is a toughy and I know it's wrong.

It brings me to my next point of consensual activity. When you take a minute and try to look at things in the eyes of reality, yes of course you don't want to submit someone to something against their will but the fantasy of nonconsensual tickling seems to "get me". I seem to struggle with this violation aspect of my kink and love tickling as punishment.. I love how uncomfortable and embarrassed women may get when they're forced to remove their shoes unexpectedly or in an embarrassing public situation. If you've seen my posts in the mainstream section, I love that embarrassed reaction when a woman gets a pedicure or a college student gets her reflexes on her feet checked during nursing practicals.. That buildup of them having their shoe and sock removed (sometimes in front of a room full of people) And their foot is touched and it caused them to jerk their leg back as if 12,000 volts just hit it.. and then there's a racial aspect that I seem to seek out where white women get tickled by another race. Not sure if there's a "retribution" fantasy living in me.

Sorry to go on for so long.. needed to vent
I haven't been on the TMF regularly for years. Its usually just popping in, seeing if anyone has sent me any messages, and popping out. Real talk, I read this and this was wild as hell. It is very clear WHY you haven't had that many partners to share this with. You are a creep.
 
Maybe I'm confused. I thought that @Vellication86's post was about, aside from the main question of whether foot fetish or tickling fetish came first, a reflection upon his fetish origins where he admitted to past actions being poor choices that he has since corrected, or has taken steps to remediate, as well as an expression of his vulnerability and sense of guilt around his current involuntary fantasies that he takes no action on, but are difficult to reconcile. Just to be clear, I don't condone his past actions, and if I have misinterpreted his post and he has continued to take these actions, I definitely don't condone that. I'll leave it to him to clarify what he was saying, but as I read it, he was taking positive steps to improve himself.
 
So- this post is yet another reason why TMF is not a safe place for many women. And this is yet another reason why TMF is not always safe place for people of color. The fact that you not only feel safe, but you also have people who will paint these atrocities with a cheery silver lining speaks volumes to the changes that still need to take place in this community.
I'm sorry that you feel that the forum is not a safe place for many women. I note that you've been on here for many, many, many, many years still. I, however, disagree strongly with this statement, as a woman. All Admin and additional Staff go above and beyond to make certain this is a space welcoming to all people of all genders and backgrounds. The owner is well-known to rule with an iron fist and takes absolutely no bullshit from anyone, ever. He has worked his ass off to create and maintain a space that all of these tens of years later we can utilize and enjoy, together, and share in our mutual interests.
 
Some interesting comments. We all have likes and dislikes, preferences, and desires. Are the desires in control of you, or are you in control of your desires? Tickling, except in the privacy of your head, is not a solo act, but a shared activity between ler and lee.
 
I'm sorry that you feel that the forum is not a safe place for many women. I note that you've been on here for many, many, many, many years still. I, however, disagree strongly with this statement, as a woman. All Admin and additional Staff go above and beyond to make certain this is a space welcoming to all people of all genders and backgrounds. The owner is well-known to rule with an iron fist and takes absolutely no bullshit from anyone, ever. He has worked his ass off to create and maintain a space that all of these tens of years later we can utilize and enjoy, together, and share in our mutual interests.

Note that more than one thing can be true not only in the world, but also here on TMF. You can have a great experience; however, that does not invalidate the experiences of others. Someone can be working tirelessly to ensure that everyone feels safe, and yet issues will still arise. It doesn't mean that we're all safe here, yet, just because you feel that way.

I should not have to explain that to you. We are not the same. My concerns do not invalidate your joy and love for the space. Nor did I say anything about the owners. But the fact that only my words made you feel like you needed to address something on this particular thread is all that I need to know.

If you cannot truly use empathy and realize that you and I can be in the same space and have different experiences, there is really nothing I can do. So, we're done.

But I got it. You disagree.
 
Note that more than one thing can be true not only in the world, but also here on TMF. You can have a great experience; however, that does not invalidate the experiences of others. Someone can be working tirelessly to ensure that everyone feels safe, and yet issues will still arise. It doesn't mean that we're all safe here, yet, just because you feel that way.

I should not have to explain that to you. We are not the same. My concerns do not invalidate your joy and love for the space. Nor did I say anything about the owners. But the fact that only my words made you feel like you needed to address something on this particular thread is all that I need to know.

If you cannot truly use empathy and realize that you and I can be in the same space and have different experiences, there is really nothing I can do. So, we're done.

But I got it. You disagree.
That's kind of the problem with feelings though, isn't it? Someone can feel unsafe under even the safest conditions regardless of the reality of the situation.

One person's experiences don't invalidate another's, but one can logically deduce that some people are going to be more sensitive than others, sometimes to the point of mental illness. In the past, there tended to be more of a balance of determining the rationality of someone's perceptions and acting accordingly, but nowadays, things skew towards identity politics and victim narratives. All that does is enable the most histrionic of mentalities while incentivizing virtue signaling and the oppression olympics.

And when you tend to go with the most bad faith interpretation of people's responses to your words, it's not surprising that you end up frustrated with others. Maybe that successfully gets sympathy or empathy from some, but others just find it annoying and disingenuous.
 
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