OK, but that gets to the problem that has come up in /other/ threads, which is ... ok, now I've got the relationship and it has been perfectly for exactly 30 days, so ... how do I initiate The Conversation? -- which has tended to be the brick wall. You've invested the time, you've gained each other's trust and intimacy -- and all this time you've wanted to tickle her, but you didn't want her to think you're just a big weird perv -- which let's face facts, fellow fets, we essentially /are/ comes down to this topic -- and her reaction is "Oh, honey, I love you like a strawberry ice cream sex sundae and I love it when men hold me down and tickle the bejeezus outta me, but I should warn you that it makes me lose all control of my bowels, sorry. Hope that's not a deal breaker ... oh hey, a wine list!" It's almost safer to risk the one-dimenstional relatioship. right thre! 😀