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Trent Lott

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There's a Lott of it about
By Julian Coman
(Filed: 22/12/2002)


Washington
The American poet William Alexander Percy once described a 19th-century mob in Trent Lott's home county in Mississippi as "ill-dressed, unintelligent and slinking - the sort of people who lynch Negroes, attend revivals, and fight and fornicate in the bushes afterwards".

No one in Washington last week has accused Mr Lott of being ill-dressed. His passion for starched white shirts is notorious on Capitol Hill. But as representatives of the Republican Party have scrambled to distance themselves from America's latest race row, the GOP's senior senator has been singled out as uniquely sharing most of the other sins of the old South. According to the White House and Mr Lott's colleagues in Congress, America's segregationist past is a foreign country, and only he still lives there.

Mr Lott resigned as US Senate majority leader on Friday after apparently endorsing the racially-divisive former views of a white 100-year-old politician, Strom Thurmond. Lott has been typecast as an anomalous throwback to the days of Dixie, no longer relevant to the country's concerns. The judgment is unnecessarily harsh on Mr Lott and unduly flattering to America.

These days a de facto segregation exists which is so entrenched that the services of a Strom Thurmond are hardly required. The battles over "affirmative action" only testify to the depth of the divide.

Most of the congressmen who recoiled in horror at Mr Lott's fatal, belated endorsement of Mr Thurmond's 1948 Dixiecrat platform, will never have visited south-east Washington, the black part of town. Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice notwithstanding, America's capital, like its other cities, offers its black and white residents parallel lives and parallel cultures. Mixed couples are still rare. London is a model of integration in comparison.

Politics is also a black and white issue. The Republican Party, whose leaders have devoted much of the week invoking the legacy of Abraham Lincoln, has spent most of the last 40 years stealthily wooing the white diehards of the old confederacy.

It was Richard Nixon who first spotted the votes to be gained in courting the anti-civil rights movement in the South. By 1972, Mississippi had given him 78 per cent of the vote. Mr Lott, who grew up as a Democrat, decided to become a Republican.

The Republican Party's "southern strategy" no longer deals with segregation, but the overwhelming majority of blacks have voted Democrat since the 1960s and continue to do so. The failure to "get the black vote out" was cited as the principal reason for Democratic failures in November's mid-term elections.

The everyday separation of blacks and whites, particularly in the South, is so routine that few people notice, except when someone like Mr Lott has an attack of candour. Indeed, when he said that the election of the segregationist Mr Thurmond would have saved America "a whole lot of problems", journalists from the Washington Post and the New York Times barely batted an eyelid.

The senator's comments were judged to be merely the kind of "in-house" aside that white southern politicians have been making for years. It was only when President George Bush let it be known that Mr Lott had strayed too far from the Republican's new "inclusive" message to black voters that a semi-private comment became a scandal.

President Bush, bolstered by impressive poll ratings, is determined to increase his market share of the vote by wooing the black and Hispanic vote. Trent Lott was too immersed in the old "southern strategy" to take due note. He made a mistake. But even in modern "inclusive" America, Lott is anything but alone.

Whats your view on this my American Friends?
 
I think this article is right on the money! Thanks for posting it, Red. 🙂
 
Prejudice is something that exists on many levels. I read somewhere that there are degrees of prejudice. How many would accept a person who was black or from a different ethnic background into their family or even as their potential spouse. Not as many as I think we would expect because it involves a level of intimacy that most would not tolerate. However many of these same people would have no trouble working with people from a different background or even living next door to them. The reason is there is not as much interaction. The sad thing about Lott is not whether or not he is prejudiced but the mirking up the waters of race relations. I think there is more prejudice then we would like to admit because it means we all have to take a hard look at ourselves. It means it is not as easy as saying your Republican or conservative. Also if you can never make a mistake when one speaks because of the fear of being destroyed by the general public. This will cause race relations to never improve because everyone will be too afraid to say what is really on their minds. On a personal level I had a girlfriend who was black for a short time and just as things were going to get a bit more serious the riots in LA happenned. Suddenly she saw me as white and I then saw her as black and we never spoke again. That night was one of the saddest of my life not so much as for losing a potential mate but because for several days I felt there was no hope of race relations ever improving. Many would think that because I do not support affirmative action or do not like Ferrakhan or his views that this alone makes me racist. In my heart I know better it is sad that many do not.
 
Yea

Racism is here to stay...you would think people would have figured it out by now.
 
The article you posted is right on the money I am sorry to say.

One thing I have yet to see addressed, even in commentary here on the TMF, is whether folks think his comments would have been so treated if he were a Senator from say...Idaho or Montana. A person from the South somehow has to prove they are not a racist when the issue comes up. *A personal gripe of mine.* I can't count the number of times I've been accused of being a racist simply because reside here and dare to say I love my home in spite of its problems. It's sickening. I wonder how much is location had to do with the interpretation. Just food for thought there.

Joby, a well-dressed, fairly intelligent and far from slinking Mississippi Belle.
 
I think that was one of the points I was trying to make Joby that racism is a more complicated issue than just being from the South or being Republican. Those things don't make you racist. One shouldn't have to go on the defensive just because you are from a particular area or are conservative. I think when we put behind all these silly things and decide to get down to really dealing with issues is when things will really improve.
 
My sympathies to Ms JoBelle; I am certainly familiar with being requested to defend, simply on the grounds of being identified as a member of a particular group, any and all sins of any and all other members of the group to suit the prejudices of the accuser.

The geographical idea is interesting, but I must confess it's difficult to imagine something of similar impact because of this comment being based in historical fact. Though a person from Idaho could be just as racist as one from Mississippi, the same pro-Thurmond remark uttered by a Senator from a non-Thurmond state, because of the remove of it not being personal state history and experience, would have had less impact. (I'd also like to think that this has at least a little to do with why Mr Lott got into so much more trouble now than he did the last time he opened his mouth and inserted his foot, when his statements were much more theoretical.)

It's unfair and unfortunate that Ms JoBelle should have to provide a defence that would not be required of her were she from, say, Minnesota (not that there isn't, sadly, quite enough racism in the North), however understandable it may seem. There are plenty of parallels in other areas. It reminds me a little of the tax cut thread from not long ago, throughout which ran a refrain that All Liberals Want to Fleece the Rich; even when liberal-identified posters denied such a sentiment, nothing seemed to dent the opinions of those who professed categorical distaste.

It sometimes gives consolation to consider that one might be able to do more to rectify one's group's openly acknowledged faults and flaws more easily than if one were part of another group in which the same problem, whether of the same extent or perhaps even not quite so great, were covert. Throwing stones at other people's houses is no way to fix one's own windows.
 
I don't think that all liberals want to fleece the rich, it is unfortunate that those who do all seem to hold public office.

I believe you are correct that if Lott were from Minnesota or still a Democrat (amazing he wasn't called racist then, go figure) that he would not have gotten into nearly as much trouble.
 
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