Vickie's upper body workout (4th free clip in the Last Laugh Dalet series)

[The Last Laugh]

Hello everyone,

I just added the fourth Vickie clip on my Clips4Sale.com store. She's still on the treadmill, but this time she's in a kneeling position, her wrists and elbows cuffed to the handle, ready for an upper body workout.

I'm sorry to say that this is the last of the Vickie footage I have. It's really a shame I didn't get a chance to shoot more material with her. She was such a great model.

I'd like to mention that, in addition to this new clip, I've also added a bigger one that contains all the material from the Vickie shoot (clips 1 to 4). It's about 30 minutes long and costs less than buying all four clips separately.

 

[NavelTickler75]

Poor thing looks like she's about to cry 🙁.

 

[The Last Laugh]

Poor thing looks like she's about to cry 🙁.

Nah, don't worry about her, she was just fine. It wasn't easy for her, but she never came close to crying or anything. In fact, she was quite ready for a few more scenes. It's too bad the shoot was interrupted.

 

[NavelTickler75]

Nah, don't worry about her, she was just fine. It wasn't easy for her, but she never came close to crying or anything. In fact, she was quite ready for a few more scenes. It's too bad the shoot was interrupted.

Okay that's good, I HATE it when girls are tickled to tears, it ruins the tickling for me, and makes me feel bad for the girls.

Why was it interrupted?

 

[The Last Laugh]

Okay that's good, I HATE it when girls are tickled to tears, it ruins the tickling for me, and makes me feel bad for the girls.

I understand. Don't worry, she didn't come close to that. She did get a bit desperate in the end, but that's normal. She was just fine with it.

Why was it interrupted?

After a break we started working on the next scene, which would have involved her having her feet tickled in stocks, toes down. She got a call from her boyfriend. At first she didn't expect anything special from it, because she had already mentioned to shoot to him, and supposedly he was ok with it. Unfortunately, it soon became obvious that he wasn't ok with it after all (*now* he tells us). He was pretty upset about it, and his somewhat extreme reaction made her upset as well. This lead to a long phone conversation that lasted at least 20 minutes. I realized that even if she managed to convince him that it was ok, his rude interruption would have pretty much ruined the mood. I even started packing up before the conversation was over, even though I didn't know how it would end.

Now, when Vickie came back from the phone, she was disappointed with her boyfriend's attitude, but otherwise she was willing to continue the shoot if I wanted to. But I told her that it might be best to do so another day. She agreed. Well, even though it seemed like the right thing to do at the time, now I regret not having at least finished that shoot, because despite her very pleasant and open-minded attitude, I never heard from her again. I tried calling, but I only got her parents, and they weren't quite sure what was going on with her.

I can't deny that I was a tad annoyed with her (and her boyfriend). Not only was I unable to finish the shoot, I also lost the chance to do more shoots with her and her friends, and probably her older sister as well. On the other hand, even though things didn't work out quite the way I was hoping, I am glad I got about 30 minutes of footage with her (she got paid for it, of course). It's a lot better than nothing at all, especially considering what a great model she was. So I guess I really shouldn't complain.

 

[NavelTickler75]

I understand. Don't worry, she didn't come close to that. She did get a bit desperate in the end, but that's normal. She was just fine with it.

Okay. Its just that I think tickling should be fun, and if a girl doesn't want it, and is crying because of it, it pisses me off.

After a break we started working on the next scene, which would have involved her having her feet tickled in stocks, toes down. She got a call from her boyfriend. At first she didn't expect anything special from it, because she had already mentioned to shoot to him, and supposedly he was ok with it. Unfortunately, it soon became obvious that he wasn't ok with it after all (*now* he tells us). He was pretty upset about it, and his somewhat extreme reaction made her upset as well. This lead to a long phone conversation that lasted at least 20 minutes. I realized that even if she managed to convince him that it was ok, his rude interruption would have pretty much ruined the mood. I even started packing up before the conversation was over, even though I didn't know how it would end.

Now, when Vickie came back from the phone, she was disappointed with her boyfriend's attitude, but otherwise she was willing to continue the shoot if I wanted to. But I told her that it might be best to do so another day. She agreed. Well, even though it seemed like the right thing to do at the time, now I regret not having at least finished that shoot, because despite her very pleasant and open-minded attitude, I never heard from her again. I tried calling, but I only got her parents, and they weren't quite sure what was going on with her.

I can see where the boyfriend is coming from, I'd have mix reactions if my girl here, Kelly decided to do a tickle video. And if my daughter was ever to do one, I'm not sure what I'd do as a father. I suppose if she was dressed with no nudity, I'd be somewhat okay with it, but if there was any nudity or sexual tickling I'd be steamed.

I can't deny that I was a tad annoyed with her (and her boyfriend). Not only was I unable to finish the shoot, I also lost the chance to do more shoots with her and her friends, and probably her older sister as well. On the other hand, even though things didn't work out quite the way I was hoping, I am glad I got about 30 minutes of footage with her (she got paid for it, of course). It's a lot better than nothing at all, especially considering what a great model she was. So I guess I really shouldn't complain.

Not sure why you'd be annoyed with her, it wasn't her true fault.

 

[The Last Laugh]

Okay. Its just that I think tickling should be fun, and if a girl doesn't want it, and is crying because of it, it pisses me off.

I understand that. I'm not very fond of crying while being tickled myself. However, I'm not against crying so much as I am against the models being upset. Some people cry tears of laughter when tickled, and if they're not actually upset, I'm just fine with it.

What needs to be understood here is that that even if a few of the models have reactions that may be upsetting for some people, they're all perfectly willing to go through it. Otherwise I wouldn't be doing shoots with them. It's not like I kidnap girls and tickle them against their will, or take them beyond their limits after they've agreed to do a shoot.

It should be noted that some ticklephiles think tickling is more fun when the ticklee is pushed to her limits, possibly somewhat panicky and perhaps even crying. While I don't really go for that approach myself, the point is that tastes vary. Personally, as long as the models are willing and basically ok (though the tickling may still be tough for them), I don't have a problem with it.

I can see where the boyfriend is coming from, I'd have mix reactions if my girl here, Kelly decided to do a tickle video. And if my daughter was ever to do one, I'm not sure what I'd do as a father.

I think you may have misunderstood something in my explanation, or maybe I explained it wrong. The boyfriend had told Vickie he was ok with thw shoot before we did it. Then he called in the middle of the shoot to let her know that he changed his mind of something. Great timing, boyfriend. That was very unfair of him. How were we supposed to know there was a problem if he told her he was fine with it prior to the shoot? He should have been sure of his feelings and been clear with Vickie right from the start.

Not sure why you'd be annoyed with her, it wasn't her true fault.

The interruption wasn't her fault, that's true. But we had planned to at least finish that shoot, perhaps even do more, and she never called back or answered my calls when I tried to get in contact with her. She totally disappeared without a trace and without letting me know. That's what annoyed me.

 

[NavelTickler75]

I understand that. I'm not very fond of crying while being tickled myself. However, I'm not against crying so much as I am against the models being upset. Some people cry tears of laughter when tickled, and if they're not actually upset, I'm just fine with it.

I do know there is a difference between hard laughter cry and upset cry, and have no problem with hard laughter cry, so long as the girls get a break for a few seconds to minutes. Just had bad experiences with tickling and crying a few years back.

I think you may have misunderstood something in my explanation, or maybe I explained it wrong. The boyfriend had told Vickie he was ok with thw shoot before we did it. Then he called in the middle of the shoot to let her know that he changed his mind of something. Great timing, boyfriend. That was very unfair of him. How were we supposed to know there was a problem if he told her he was fine with it prior to the shoot? He should have been sure of his feelings and been clear with Vickie right from the start.

No I knew what you meant, and understand. Of course he has a right to change his mind, but he should definately have given it a far greater deal more thought. I'd probably be okay with my girl being tickled in one of these if I was the tickler, but as I'm west coast and Kelly is East, it would be kind of hard to do, lol.

The interruption wasn't her fault, that's true. But we had planned to at least finish that shoot, perhaps even do more, and she never called back or answered my calls when I tried to get in contact with her. She totally disappeared without a trace and without letting me know. That's what annoyed me.

I'm willing to bet she felt bad about the ideal with her boyfriend and didn't want to go through that again, and there was a possible fear that her parents would find out too, so I can understand that from her POV. Though I can see why you'd be annoyed too.

 

[The Last Laugh]

I do know there is a difference between hard laughter cry and upset cry, and have no problem with hard laughter cry, so long as the girls get a break for a few seconds to minutes.

Obviously the models get breaks between scenes or when they really need them.

No I knew what you meant, and understand. Of course he has a right to change his mind, but he should definately have given it a far greater deal more thought.

Indeed. If he was to change his mind, he should have done so before the shoot. If he only figured it out in the middle of the shoot, it strongly suggests that he really wasn't all that comfortable with it to begin with, and he should have been clear about it with her right from the start. By calling when he did, he risked ruining the shoot (he certainly ruined the mood), and he made Vickie rather upset. I didn't hear much of the conversation, which took place in another room (as it was none of my business), but it sounded like he was giving her a hard time, which I think is totally unfair. I may be totally wrong, but my impression was that he was a bit of a controlling jerk. I was quite pissed at him not only for interrupting the shoot, but also because he made Vickie feel bad. She didn't feel at all guilty about doing the shoot, however. Good for her!

I'm willing to bet she felt bad about the ideal with her boyfriend and didn't want to go through that again, and there was a possible fear that her parents would find out too, so I can understand that from her POV. Though I can see why you'd be annoyed too.

I don't think it's quite the case. I got in contact with her in the first place because she was a member of a "model-meets-photographer" club I'm also a member of. When I couldn't reach her anymore, I learned that she had done pretty much the same to some of the photographers she was supposed to work with. So I don't think her disappearance has anything to do with my shoot, though its not entirely impossible that she realized she was having problems with her boyfriend and decided to change something in her life, like break up with him and move away without telling people, including her own family, where she was going. Or maybe not, I don't know. Now, I can understand that something probably happened that made doing more shoot impossible for her, for whatever reason. But I would have appreciated if she had at least called me to let me know. I would have been disappointed, for sure, but at least I wouldn't have felt let down quite as much. I don't know, it just seems to me that it's common courtesy.

As for her parents, I doubt she was worried about what they would think. If I remember correctly, she mentioned it to her mom because she wanted to use her parents' house for the shoot. When I got her parents on the phone, I discussed the situation with them (the loss of contact, not what the boyfriend did), and it was obvious that they knew what it was about. Heck, her younger brother even came for a quick errand during one of our breaks, something that we knew was going to happen. Besides which, she's done some artistic nude photography, so I don't think the tickling thing was very intimidating for anyone.

Please note that while I am disappointed with the way things happened, I'm not angry with Vickie. And during the half shoot that we did, she was an excellent model. The boyfriend's rude behavior and Vickie's disappearance don't take anything away from the material that we produced, and I'm quite pleased with it.

 

[NavelTickler75]

Obviously the models get breaks between scenes or when they really need them.

Well that is good. Here's to hoping one day you might have some of your girls tickle some guys, hehe.

Indeed. If he was to change his mind, he should have done so before the shoot. If he only figured it out in the middle of the shoot, it strongly suggests that he really wasn't all that comfortable with it to begin with, and he should have been clear about it with her right from the start. By calling when he did, he risked ruining the shoot (he certainly ruined the mood), and he made Vickie rather upset. I didn't hear much of the conversation, which took place in another room (as it was none of my business), but it sounded like he was giving her a hard time, which I think is totally unfair. I may be totally wrong, but my impression was that he was a bit of a controlling jerk. I was quite pissed at him not only for interrupting the shoot, but also because he made Vickie feel bad. She didn't feel at all guilty about doing the shoot, however. Good for her! [/QUOTE

Well hopefully the creep didn't do anything illegal to her, and someone finds her body somewhere.

I don't think it's quite the case. I got in contact with her in the first place because she was a member of a "model-meets-photographer" club I'm also a member of. When I couldn't reach her anymore, I learned that she had done pretty much the same to some of the photographers she was supposed to work with. So I don't think her disappearance has anything to do with my shoot, though its not entirely impossible that she realized she was having problems with her boyfriend and decided to change something in her life, like break up with him and move away without telling people, including her own family, where she was going. Or maybe not, I don't know. Now, I can understand that something probably happened that made doing more shoot impossible for her, for whatever reason. But I would have appreciated if she had at least called me to let me know. I would have been disappointed, for sure, but at least I wouldn't have felt let down quite as much. I don't know, it just seems to me that it's common courtesy.

Fair enough. Perhaps she went with him and was told by him not to say anything, or she was terrified and had to leave, who knows?

 

[The Last Laugh]

Fair enough. Perhaps she went with him and was told by him not to say anything, or she was terrified and had to leave, who knows?

In either case, the boyfriend is a huge jerk. But since I've no way of knowing if either scenario is correct, I'll leave him the benefit of the doubt.

Still, chances are pretty good that he's involved in Vickie's departure, one way or another. I just hope it didn't turn out to be a bad move for Vickie.

 

[NavelTickler75]

In either case, the boyfriend is a huge jerk. But since I've no way of knowing if either scenario is correct, I'll leave him the benefit of the doubt.

Still, chances are pretty good that he's involved in Vickie's departure, one way or another. I just hope it didn't turn out to be a bad move for Vickie.

Agreed.