Violent fantasies

[Ayla ny]

To have a girl, all naked, tied to my bed, spread and helpless, and use my fingers to make her nerves crunch and her muscles to react and tremble totally out of her control, and see her laughing and fighting to catch her breath, pulling her arms and legs, unable to defend herself. And you see her desperate, in agony, suffering the worst torture of her life, but at the same time you see her excited, her heart is pumping, her body is aroused, and you move the game to the next level. And at the end of the session, when you see her facial expression of satisfaction, you know thats a fantasy come true.

 

[Bohemianne]

Who can ever fathom whatever is in a person's mind? Basically, one can only share it intimately with a trusted partner.

In my POV, there are ways to channel these light to dark urges. I still go for sex transmutation, where excess energies can be creatively re-used in another form like... production. I have drawn some of them at least, then I feel another form of unexplained satisfaction.

 

[rhiannon]

The way I see it, if you're continuously painting these fantasies in a positive light in your own mind, one may become desensitised to how violent and morally wrong they are to other people. A further concern would then be that they feel it is ok to act upon these urges.

I don't think that is any more accurate than believing that people who watch horror movies will go out slaying people or people who play ego shooters will eventually run amok! 🙂

 

[deadlywiffeathr]

I don't think that is any more accurate than believing that people who watch horror movies will go out slaying people or people who play ego shooters will eventually run amok! 🙂

Granted. I'm not saying all people who have darker fantasies will eventually see them as acceptable actions, I'm just sayin if they think like that in the first place they would have a higher likelyhood of going out and making it more real for themselves.

Exactly the same with the horror movies and video games. Not every person who plays or watches them will go around shooting and slaying people, but someone who has urges to do such violent things would be more likey to gravitate towards those sorts of activities to begin with 🙂

 

[rhiannon]

Of course, people who have fantasies like that are more likely to act upon them than people who don't have such fantasies at all - because there naturally isn't anything that they could act upon. 🙂

But just having fantasies like that doesn't make anybody a bad person.

 

[yurokedd]

im for it

first id like to say,what chat room where you in and how can i get in it.2nd if you ever want to chat about this,with no limits or judgments IM me on yahoo messenger yurok_edd and 3rd every one has that dark side you cant grow unless both halves grow light and dark.Because you cant have one with out the other.Thats why people have break downs thier affraid to go with in ther shadow world and fantasies.Then this energy builds till it becomes a problem.But if you only want it to remain in that fantasy world remember when your done with the fantasy..Tell your self its only a fantasy and should remain in that world.That way your higher self wont think you desire it and are calling for it.

 

[ticklemepls]

Im one of those people who would agree with LD... though i do believe its different for someone whos been through it, clearly acceptable not to want to discuss that... but i think for a lot of people it goes hand-in-hand with extreme torture, that type of thing... for those who are into that...

its one of those things that people do actualy have fantasies which involve these acts... To me, its more "to each their own" ... just because im not into it, doesnt mean its wrong ... and if i am, thats ok too... either way they are fantasies in which people have... and those tend to come up here based on conversations we come accross in the chatroom...

 

[Texas_Tickle]

Having a fantasy about it is one thing, actually carrying it out is a different matter. How many of us have read stories posted here about kidnapping somebody and tickling them against their will? How many of us have actually done that, in real life?

How many people have a hard time seperating the fantasy vs reality? Those are the ones who need help. As long as you're not hurting anybody, dream away. And to the people who said you shouldn't even dream about it, I'd like to point about 2 things:

1. We cannot control what we dream about (I wish we could)

2. Would you rather the act was committed in a person's imagination, or against a real person?

Now I have the song 'Dream Police' from Cheap Trick playing in my head.... thanks a lot.

 

[ticklemepls]

Having a fantasy about it is one thing, actually carrying it out is a different matter. How many of us have read stories posted here about kidnapping somebody and tickling them against their will? How many of us have actually done that, in real life?

How many people have a hard time seperating the fantasy vs reality? Those are the ones who need help. As long as you're not hurting anybody, dream away. And to the people who said you shouldn't even dream about it, I'd like to point about 2 things:

1. We cannot control what we dream about (I wish we could)

2. Would you rather the act was committed in a person's imagination, or against a real person?

Now I have the song 'Dream Police' from Cheap Trick playing in my head.... thanks a lot.

well said.

 

[LD_Tickler]

I didn't mean to insinuate that people who have these kinds of fantasies are unhealthy, I was merely trying to express that I believe the fantasies themselves are unhealthy for a person to have on a constant basis.

Interesting. But, again, how is it unhealthy? The argument that it desensitizes is one thing, but doesn't really clarify what you mean by health.

I have violent fantasies on a constant basis. Pretty much every fantasy I have has at least some element of domination or objectification, and most take it to the extreme. As far as any medical or psychological professional has been able to tell, I'm in excellent health.

What I don't understand is how someone can stand there and say they actually enjoy imagining raping a woman without her consent in a violent manner.

I don't understand how people enjoy imagining another person peeing on them. I don't even understand foot fetishists. My lack of understanding isn't enough for me to call them unhealthy.

Isn't the fact that you have described these fantasies and thoughts as "dark" a pretty big indicator that they are seen as unfavourable in most people's eyes?

Yes it is, but lots of tabboos are senseless. I need more reason to pass judgement then just, "what most people appear to think." Otherwise the condemnation of something becomes the reason for its condemnation in the first place, and we reach a big ol' circle in our logic. 😀

Out of curiosity, do you have the same objection to people fantasizing about tickling a woman against her will on a constant basis?

 

[CuteJill143]

Play-fighting that leads to tickling...Yes. Violence and making someone uncomfortable and making them do things they don't want to do..not cool. Maybe a Little bit of manhandling is involved in my fantasies.