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what % of tickling fans have non-con fantasies?

SadCuzNotTcklsh

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What would you say the percent is of those who have non-consensual fantasies?
Do you think the number changes if they are the tickler or ticklee?

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I'm a 'ler and I'd have to say about 95% of mine are non-con. Not that i would tend to act on that, but most fantasies are never acted on anyway.
 
Not really.

In some parts of the world there is the idea that seduction is worse than rape because rape only violates the body whereas seduction takes control of the mind as well. Obviously this is a terrible idea, but when it comes to me being a tickler there might be something to it. A willing lee is far more under my control than an unwilling one because I have her mind as well.

As a ticklee, again not really. Anyone I'd find it appealing to be tickled by without consent I would happily give consent to anyway.

If you're curious you could make a poll.
 
I have no idea what the % is for other people. For me, most of my tickling fantasies involve a merciless ler that wouldn't be afraid to break me. But then again, with any fantasy comes the reality, and that is: ALL of my scenes involve a safe word. I rarely use it, but it's there if I need it. So, my ler might not stop if I were to say "mercy!", but he sure as hell would stop if I were to shout "red!"
 
The experience for tickler and ticklee functionally is physical --- touch, sight, sound (taste/smell for worship tickling) -- but the essence for both is psychological insofar as the ticklee can go through several levels --- arousal, anxiety, fear --- and the tickler can feel arousal/power/control. As a tickler, I can't enjoy it if I sense the ticklee is not aroused and has become scared/fearful --- anxiety is fine, and for many ticklees is part of their arousal --- but fear/physical distress, I can't deal with that.
 
Hmm, well there's a little paradox for you... A fair number of my fantasies as a 'lee involve me being kidnapped and tickle tortured against my will (typically by comic book supervillains, because I'm a colossal geek), which would qualify as a non-con scenario, of course. But obviously, I'd be enjoying my "torture" immensely--that's why I'm fantasizing about it, after all. So if I'm secretly aroused and silently begging for more while Harley Quinn tickles the hell out of my bound feet, does it really count as non-con? These are the important questions here, people! XD
 
I used to be all about like 100% non-con before, but my tastes of changed and it's become more of like a situation when the tickling turns into a sexual fantasy. Kind of hard to turn an non-con fantasy into a consensual sexual one lol.
 
I actually like to picture my girlfriend in non-consensual tickling situations. It gets me extremely turned on.
 
When I was in high school I went on an "outdoor school" trip for all most a week. Guys and gals slept in different cabins, of course. On our last night the guy's cabin was raided by the girls, and I received the most brutal tickling I've ever experienced. I was tickled awake by the female class bully, and a few other chicks. It was horrible. I didn't want her touching me, but she (and they) found all of my worst spots. It was so embarrassing, because I became rock hard all most immediately. I'm sure someone noticed...
 
I'm personally not into it but I can see the appeal for it. I find the kind of "self induced suffering" to be the most appealing part of tickling, like when you struggle between the enjoyment and the torture aspects of it. When I tickle someone I want to see how far I can push them until they get passed that threshold where they think they can handle it and have to ask for mercy. I wouldn't get the same enjoyment from someone who wants me to stop before I even touch them.

Not saying I particularly stop once they get passed it and start begging... :mwahaha: (unless safewords are used... I'm not a monster.)
 
I love non-con as a Ler.

There's an element of anger when I want to victimize a man. I think it stems from a long-held frustration I've had when witnessing dom/sub relationships that follow the status quo of powerful men and weak women. My fantasies of noncon come from a vengeful desire to turn this on its head, and teach the typically dominant male what a strong, angry woman is capable of doing to him. And the best part of this fantasy is, that previously dominant man is stunned to find himself succumbing to the submissive mindset. This tends to give way to all manner of BDSM tendencies, not just tickling.
 
I have a lot of non-con fantasies where people I dislike are captured and tickle tortured.
 
There are some non con situation I kind of fantasize about. Some who deserve it and I'd love to dish it out.
I would guess not many Lees have such fantasies. Although I'd guess there are some.
 
There are some non con situation I kind of fantasize about. Some who deserve it and I'd love to dish it out.
I would guess not many Lees have such fantasies. Although I'd guess there are some.

A lot more than some; a non-con fantasy keeps the lee in of control the situation, without the obvious drawbacks of non-consensual tickling in real life.
 
MANY years ago (more like centuries) I had a crush on a young woman (she was unaware). One day, I was walking toward an area we commonly frequented and heard hysterical laughter. I rounded the corner to find Tracy being held and tickled by three of our mutual friends (all female). One had her arms pinned behind her back and two were tickling her ribs, stomach and underarms.

Tracy (petite, short-haired, shy and fairly flat-chested) was usually the picture of composure for 20 years old. In that moment, she was a mess. She was beet-red, tears spilling down, and her laughter a mixture of uncontrolled belly laughs and screaming.

It was wondrous.

When she saw me, the screaming increased (she was embarrassed). Mercifully, our friends quit tickling her.

Now I had to ask her out. A few days later, I did. I had never had non-con fantasies before, but Tracy's torture was all I could think about!

It wasn't a very good date, but we did have a nice time of snuggling. I gave her a gentle poke in the side (BIG reaction) and reminded her of the non-consensual tickling on the bench outside our hangout. She told me how humiliated she was about being so ticklish, and hoped I would never tickle her (very seriously!). To cap off, she mentioned that her feet were NOT ticklish and that I could tickle them if I liked.

So that was our first and last date, but the merciless torture she received opened a whole world of non-consensual fantasies for me.
 
I may be different here. I usually fantasize about the non-sensual consensual. The woman that likes it but won't admit it. Non-consensual tend to scream a lot like in a horror movie. That doesn't do anything for me. I like to hear some laughter.
 
Well over half of my lee fantasies are non-con, finding the idea of being taken and tickled past my limits quite thrilling.
None of my ler fantasies are non-con though, since I find it hard to enjoy being a ler unless I know the lee is enjoying herself.
 
A lot more than some; a non-con fantasy keeps the lee in of control the situation, without the obvious drawbacks of non-consensual tickling in real life.

Yes, for sure! As a lee, I have plenty of consensual tickling fantasies, as well as a few non-con ones. I don't think I'd want a non-con situation in real life, but I have plenty of fantasies that involve me getting tied up and tickled against my will! (But then again, I'm usually still enjoying the tickling - so how non-consensual is that?)
 
Heh, it's odd, really. I have quite a few non-consensual fantasies, daydreaming about being caught and taken away by tickle monsters and the various evil ticklers in the stories that we love to write and read about. Heck, I've been like that for as long as I can remember, finding it unbelievably enticing to imagine being whisked away to a place where I could be mercilessly tickled and just be broken down by it.

However, not too long ago, I had a friend visiting who knew that I loved tickling, and actually does tickle me from time to time. He joked about sneaking into my room and waking me up by tying my feet together and tickling them, but when I thought about the real possibility of waking up and finding somebody in my room that I wasn't expecting, I knew I'd be more freaked out than ticklish at first, and I didn't relish in having that brief nightmare of a panic 😛 One of those things where the fantasy is more fun than how it would probably actually play out.

That being said... I know I'll still be having those non-con tickling daydreams anyways. Our brains are strange.
 
I like the idea of it as a fantasy but I think it would probably be a disappointing experience tickling the hell out of someone that wasn't into being tickled. The yelling and cursing. A bad vibe. Unless it was someone you really had it in for.
 
The thing I like about being tickled is the unambiguous fact that I can't stand being tickled -- and the fact that the person inflicting the tickling on me is doing it because I can't stand it. So obviously I'm into it -- but what I'm into is the fact that I desperately can't take it and would escape or make it stop if I could. So the appeal of it is fundamentally non-consensual, for me, even though that's obviously kind of a complicated concept.
 
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