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Would You????

daddy

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Just curious as to how many of you would be willing to buy a video tape of tons of "mainstream" tickling clips from over the years??? I have a tape with lots of clips on it (none that are from our video companies that are still active) that I think you would enjoy. Quality is not super, but it still is awesome to say the least. Let me know and I will debate whether to make copys or not. I'm thinking 10 bucks a copy...what do ya think????

daddy
 
Daddy,
I believe there is someone on this board that has something similar but yeah I would be interested.
Umm, when you say "Tons" could you define that a little bit more, or at least give how long the tape runs.
Thanks,
 
Sounds interesting to me. Could you give us a kind of general synopsis.I used to have a lot of stuff like that but no more and would like to get some back.

the_turk
 
Please Exercise Caution...

Careful, Daddy...I have a tape of mainstream scenes almost 2 hrs in length. I'll trade, but will not sell it due to the fact I'm chicken-sh*t some one will come after me for copyright infringement.

Rxx
 
A long time ago in a not so far away land, Myself and a few others put together a very long mainstream tape. Most of the clips that I see circulated are from this tape. How do I know? Because they are the same quality and in the same order.

For a while, it was being distributed as TICKLING IN HOLLYWOOD with titles and all that. I have one of the originals. Furthermore, over ten years ago I started compiling a list of mainstream sightings that I put together in a collection called TICKLING IN THE MEDIA. For a long while, it was being sold and traded (sold behind my back, traded by me). It was alphabetized and had a section called Star shots (or something like that) with the actress and the scenes listed after that. It was also divided into movies, tv, literature and misc.

What am I getting at with this post? I just get a little upset when people start selling this effort that I and my friends have put into this so many years ago that has been circulated and recopied so many times. I can safely say that a large percent of the mainstream tapes that people have are taken and added to the original tapes that we compiled.

I am not convinced that any tapes being sold today are not nearly total copies of this original (of course with newer additions). I happen to know that a certain person in our Community has even sold clips from these tapes.

I'm sorry to have this tone in my writing. We all deserve to make a buck or two I guess. However, with all our initial efforts, my friends and I never did.

Max
 
If this tape is largely from Max's original efforts, I have to agree with him. But, even if it's not, I don't know that I'd BUY a copy.

I have my own collection of clips, mainly on disk rather than tape. (We actually have some clips on tape that I haven't seen online that I plan to pull to share online when I get a chance.) For those who are looking for clips (unless they come from pay sites) I share them freely. Those on tape are also shared freely when we are close enough to do so. Often, I'm asked to swap clips. That often poses a slight problem since most of the clips people have to offer in trade are ones that I already have. My solution? I just GIVE the person the clip(s) they want with nothing in return but a thank-you. That's cool with me.

While I'd be interested in knowing what's on this tape to see if there's anything that we don't already have, I don't think that selling it is a good idea. Asking enough to cover the cost of the tape and shipping (normally $6 tops in my experience), I can see if it's planned to be shared widely. Other than that, I'd personally be opposed to the idea. But, that's just me.

Ann

BTW...for those who just read this and are thinking "Put your money where your mouth is."...I'm working on compiling a listing of the clips I have and will be making that available when it's done. People will be free to request clips here to be posted to a yahoo group I'll be using for that purpose. The same will be done with the pics I have on disk. Since I have about 1,700 clips and nearly 5,000 pics, it will take a while to get ready. A notice will be posted when I'm ready to take requests.
 
Sorry Max!!!

I didn't know you sold this type of tape,I would have bought one.
I saw you had a tape at a NEST a while ago, but I didn't know you were selling them...
 
The Max has Spoken!

And as always, I listen. The tape I have I started collecting in 1986 when I got my 2nd VCR, gathering scenes I recalled seeing in frantic searches thru video stores and blind luck on TV.(An example of "Blind Luck:" The CNN report, TWICE! Once smack dab in the middle of my recording of MTV's Fleetwood Mac concert.) For a couple of years, my free time in winter was spent watching horrible grade F movies in hopes of turning up more. (This turned up things like Baron Munchausen, and Ghoulies 1 & 3) Then along comes this wonderful internet gizmo, and Lo and Behold! Hark, even! Mainstream lists! MORE time scavenging thru the F rack at the video stores!

I thought I heard someone say, "Is there a point to all this?"

I completely understand where Max is coming from. I sure as hell would not want someone cashing in on my years of toil. I did trade ONCE, and was rewarded with a few scenes I never knew existed. If this tape I traded for was yours, Max, I appreciate the effort you put into it. I've been holding out on trading further til I can upgrade this rinky-dink computer to a system that I can make clips on. There are a few scenes it seems I alone possess...along with the fella I traded with.

Long and Short: Sharing with the Community is one thing, and I'm all for it. Selling someone out is entirely different.

Rxx
 
Ok...I have decided I am not going to offer the tape as I did not know there might be a problem with all this. I have never known about any of Max's tapes and did not even know they existed until this thread so let's end that stuff right here...I was not trying to "cash" in on someone else's work...as it was, the $10.00 would have covered the tape the shipping and my time, so there was really no profit to be made. I was given this tape a few years back by someone who claimed it was his own personal collection, so who knows now???

daddy
 
Again, I apologize for the tone of my post. Your tape or any of the other tapes might be your own efforts. I don't know. I responded and reacted to the fact that, over the years I have traded a few mainstream tapes only to get my original one back again. Imagine my frustration.

Then, one time, I found that someone was selling them and another was selling clips. That's what pissed me off.

Back in the early 90's, I had an arrangement with an unnamed person to sell my 50 page Tickling In The Media compilation. I never saw any money for that, but I had heard that he was selling them anyway. This, along with my own personally written stories were used as trading materials back in the 80's in order for me to accumulate tickling videos since I had none to trade at that time. BTW: Most of those stories back then were sold and traded with the "Max Speer" name wiped off. Frustrated, I decided to simply feature this list on my personal websites for all to see for free. I had it there for many years. The stories which I had no back-up since they were typed are lost forever.

The Good Guys in this mix of compilation taping are Oddjob, Mr Hyde, Ticklechgo and myself. Mr Hyde put the actual video titles on it.

What's really funny is that when a brief synopsis of the clips were mentioned, a mention of a particular tickling under the arm in a cheap Tarzan video caught my attention. I know for a fact that this was on our compilation since it was Mr Hyde himself who found that by accident on a softcore porno video and added it to our compilation.

Again, I am not trying to stick my flag in the Mt. Everest of Mainstream compilations. And I certainly have nothing personally against you, Daddy. So if I had upset you in my ranting I apologize. Please do what you intended to do. Any efforts to this Community should be encouraged.

It's just many efforts in our Community have gone unacknowledged in the past since we are not all that talented in self-promotion like certain people we know. The early efforts from what you guys might call the "Oldies" have laid the groundwork for the amazingly fantastic efforts exhibited today by all of the well-known authors and video companies in our wonderful Community and this forum.

I didn't mean this post to sound so editorial (maybe my muse is returning?) but I am grateful for the TMF since the efforts of the "Oldies" were always flamed at AMT by some.

Peace,

Max
 
Yo, Daddy, I sure as hell didn't mean for you to think I meant you when I said "Selling out." I have utmost respect for you and Max, 2 of the first sites I saw on the 'net. You guys have both contributed a helluva lot more to this community than you have gotten in return. EVERYONE knows that...For those of you who don't, I'm informing you.

Max, since you mentioned that "Tarzan" scene, I now know the vid I traded for was at least in part yours. With 2 separate scenes from "Variety Girl."

I was only trying to clear what name I have, the same as the 2 of you, when it came to trading tapes. I'll gladly send each of you a copy of my tape, just e-mail me at Yahoo. No trade, no risk, no shit. You won't find more than about 5 scenes you don't already have. Well, maybe a few more. There IS that segment on "Real Personal" where yours truly weighs in on tickling as a fetish...It's MY way of saying, hey, you've given so much, how about taking some in return.

Max, I think in your last post in this thread you perhaps had reference to a certain "Toby" we both know...in that case, it could be we have some of one another's works already, as we're both "Oldies."

I'm sitting here trying to think of something very wise to say, so that some of the younger crowd will know exactly how Daddy Longhair and Max Speer laid the groundwork for the tickling community on the web, and Max long before, when we were a "Closet" sort, all individuals, not a community. I'm afraid you just had to be there. For a change, I don't have the words.

Rxx
 
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Max, tkrexx...no harm done. I appreciate the concern. I also can understand both of your points and the concerns it might raise. I for one would hate to work hard on a project that someone else took credit for or made a profit from. Believe me, I know how many hours of hard work (and luck) goes into to getting/gathering mainstream/real life tk material. It's something that usually does not fall in ones lap! LOL... Plus the tape that I have also has some Maybird clips and some from another old video company featuring that old guy "Hal" who did the tickling so I did not want to get in trouble for anything over that even though they are out of business. I really did not think it would matter at this point, but then again, ya never know.

Being the snoopy man I am, I offer this to Max...e-mail me privately with your address and I will mail you a copy of the tape I have so we know the truth...heck, I would like to know now if I was being "teased" about the honesty behind the tape! Contact Myriads for my addy if you want.

Also, thank you tkrexx for the nice comments about The HotelTickle. I am glad you found it and that you enjoyed it. Maybe one day it will surface again!!!

Peace Out
daddy
 
Ok, now I am confused...

Umm, I am still interested in getting some tape of alot of mainstream clips. I loved the one I briefly viewed at a NEST, I don't know if that is Max's original but it was great.
My point is that I don't care who has the tape(s), I would still like to get them!!
 
I definitely played that particular tape at the NESTs as well as mainstream tapes I have in Spanish and Italian, UK and Germany. Many of them are from mainstream media in those countries and many others are US shows overdubbed. I also have some great Japanese mainsteam stuff.

We should put our heads together and pool our resources. Maybe we can come up with a great International collection. Of course, my sense of organization sucks so I will have to search thru a hell of a lot of tapes to find them.

Max
 
Daddy, I'm still interested in seeing your tapes. Maybe we can work some things out in trade somehow ?
 
Hello all. Was just browsing and happened upon this thread. It's possible I can shed some light on this subject. Perhaps this tape is the one I gave to you a while back, Daddy? If it is not I apologize for the intrusion. But if it is, I can speak somewhat to it's origins.

The stuff on this tape is partly mine, which I taped firsthand from tv shows, commercials, and movies. Other clips I acquired in trade with others who had done likewise. I have continued this practice since the making of that tape, and my collection that was something like 2 hours long is now more like 5 or 6. I've dealt with several people in this regard, most recently Nontkl, who I know many of you know. He has all of my mainstream collection, and I his. I have never traded with Mr Speer to my recollection, though some of the stuff he has done I well could have received second hand. I will agree with Mr Speer in that making a quality tape of this type can be a lot of painstaking work, especially if you are at concerned with quality. If any of the stuff that I have received was done by Mr Speer, then I applaud his efforts, since most of what I have received in trade is of high quality. In fact, Max, if you wish too you can send me a mail about the contents of the tapes you've made and I can tell you if they are in my collection. Perhaps, by way of thanks, I could even make you a tape of more recent stuff I have recorded, to flesh out your collection a bit. Just a thought.

In regard to the tape in question that Daddy offered, I don't really know if copyright law applies there, since most all of the stuff on it has appeared in the free public domain of broadcast television,... either network or cable. At least that's where I get most of my stuff from. Perhaps someone in the legal profession could advise.

As far as Daddy's offer is concerned, I myself have absolutely no problem with it. Clearly the man's not trying to get rich here, as the money he was proposing to charge would barely cover copying and mailing the tape. If people wanna see it, and he wants ta make it, I say go for it. A nice thing to provide for the community, to my way of thinking at least. If he were ripping people off, or charging huge prices, (as some in the past have done), that would be a different can of worms, but it seems clear that's not the case. So assuming that this tape (or any part of it) is mine, then Daddy has my blessing to procede, (for what it's worth), if he wishes.

As far as "credit" goes, I doubt if Daddy even knows where many of these clips came from. Even I don't know the original origin of all of them,..... and I'm the one who compiled them. I'm just happy someone captured them on tape and preserved them, and I'm happy to have had a small part in contributing to that compilation. To any and all others who have had a hand in preserving and compiling these mainstream clips, I extend a heartfelt thanks. Especially since these random mainstream occurences were, for many of us, our first and most treasured form of contact with tickling media. It's my hope that we can all continue to preserve and share this resource with each other when the opportunity exists. (Wow, kinda sounded like a politician toward the end there.)

Anyway, just my thoughts on the matter, for whatever it's worth. If anyone has questions or comments, feel free to send me a mail.


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