Wrestling is not a sport

[Iggy pop]

Professional wrestling is entertainment, and not a sport. Football, baseball, basketball, hockey, golf, tennis, the olympics, etc. do not have a pre-determined outcome. Wrestling does have a pre-determined outcome. Wrestling is a show and is staged. Wrestling is Fake.

Yes wrestlers do put their bodies on the line, and they do sometimes get injured. So do stuntman. That does not mean it is a sport.

 

[Goodieluver]

Wrestling never said it was real, You(the people\media) said it was fake

Also goes into the larger argument of what do you define as sport

 

[Iggy pop]

What I define as a sport is a competition requiring athletic prowess that does not have a pre-determined outcome.

 

[Goodieluver]

What I define as a sport is a competition requiring athletic prowess that does not have a pre-determined outcome.

So then do you define cheerleading, chess, spelling bee's, darts a sport? They all exert some type of physical action, to which is whyni would also declare Nascar racing a sport, because it takes alot of exertion to keep a car in control doing 200 mph. You seem to then want to base your definition of sport on the outcome, so if a boxing match is tainted by a fix, does that mean its no longer a sport? Despite the outcomes of the match being known yes, occasionally and rarely shoots(non planned\real) events occur and ruin said ending. So you have to said, is physical exertion\athletic skill a sign of sport or competition? Because if you need competition, then cheerleading for example would not be defined as a sport

Is american idol a sport? You are exerting yourself and in a competition of sorts

 

[Iggy pop]

So then do you define cheerleading, chess, spelling bee's, darts a sport?

Competetive cheerleading, yes. Chess, no. Spelling bee, no. Darts, yeah I guess. Chess and spelling bee require no athletic skills.

all exert some type of physical action, to which is whyni would also declare Nascar racing a sport, because it takes alot of exertion to keep a car in control doing 200 mph.

I agree. I am not a fan of Nascar, but I consider it a sport.

You seem to then want to base your definition of sport on the outcome, so if a boxing match is tainted by a fix, does that mean its no longer a sport?

Fixing fights are illegal in boxing, and there is a reason why there are illegal. It would ruin the sport.

Despite the outcomes of the match being known yes, occasionally and rarely shoots(non planned\real) events occur and ruin said ending. So you have to said, is physical exertion\athletic skill a sign of sport or competition? Because if you need competition, then cheerleading for example would not be defined as a sport

Competetive cheerleading is a sport.

Is american idol a sport? You are exerting yourself and in a competition of sorts

American Idol requires vocal skill and not athletic skill. But I will say this American Idol is closer to a sport than wrestling is.

 

[OnnaOtaku]

Neither is NASCAR.

 

[Tickle Fiend]

Pre-determined outcome or not, it's still a sport. They have some of the most athletic people in the world. It's athletic, physical and competitive and that's all that matters.

 

[Laugh704]

Pro wrestling is the sport of selling your moves, taking bumps, making your character believable and being able to produce enough entertainment to lure the casual watcher and general public to generate income for the company by paying for pay-per-views and purchasing product merchandise.

The wrestling itself is not a sport. As mentioned, the outcome is already predetermined. The sport and competition is being able to promote yourself and your determined product more so than the other thousands of pro wrestler wannabes.

That part of the 'business' is not predetermined, does require athletic ability and is extremely competitive. Every wrestler wants to be the next "Stone Cold" or "Rock", but few are able to reach that level because they lack the athletic talent to produce believable moves in the stage arena (the ring), verbal communication skills and overall charisma of the aforementioned characters.

 

[Iggy pop]

Neither is NASCAR.

I am not a fan of NASCAR at all, however, I believe it is a sport. It is a competition, and it requires cordination and skill. I find it boring as hell, but still it is a sport.

 

[Iggy pop]

Pre-determined outcome or not, it's still a sport. They have some of the most athletic people in the world. It's athletic, physical and competitive and that's all that matters.

There is no competetion. Everything is pre-determined. Wrestling is one big scripted play.

 

[Tickle Fiend]

A pre-determined outcome doesn't stop something from being a sport. The only "fake" thing about wrestling is that the wrestlers know ahead of time who will win. The pre-determined outcome doesn't stop it from being competitive, physical and athletic, all things that make up a sport.

From dictionary.com:

sport
-noun
"an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc."

Athleticism, skill, physicality, competitiveness...the make-up of a sport. All things that wrestlers and wrestling in general possess.

 

[Iggy pop]

The wrestling itself is not a sport. As mentioned, the outcome is already predetermined. The sport and competition is being able to promote yourself and your determined product more so than the other thousands of pro wrestler wannabes.

That part of the 'business' is not predetermined, does require athletic ability and is extremely competitive. Every wrestler wants to be the next "Stone Cold" or "Rock", but few are able to reach that level because they lack the athletic talent to produce believable moves in the stage arena (the ring), verbal communication skills and overall charisma of the aforementioned characters.

This is true of actors and stuntmen which I think wrestlers are a combination of. By this, we could say every show that employs actors is a competetion and every show on television is a sport. Surely not.

Look I am not saying that wrestlers do not have skills. I think stuntmen have skills as well, but it does not mean what stuntmen do is a sport.

 

[Tickle Fiend]

This is true of actors and stuntmen which I think wrestlers are a combination of. By this, we could say every show that employs actors is a competetion and every show on television is a sport. Surely not.

Look I am not saying that wrestlers do not have skills. I think stuntmen have skills as well, but it does not mean what stuntmen do is a sport.

But wrestlers aren't paid to act. They are paid to wrestle. If you want to call wrestlers "stuntman," than you might as well label people who do other physical sports the same thing. They're putting their body on the line also. Everyone has skills, different skills. Teachers have skills, doctors, wedding planners, etc. People who play sports have different skills. You think that stuntman and wrestlers have one thing in common and now stuntman do a sport?

 

[sabaki]

If your definition of "sport" requires that people compete, then professional wrestling is clearly not a sport. In a competition people strive against each other to achieve mutually exclusive goals. But in pro wrestling, everyone cooperates together to achieve a single predetermined goal.

 

[Iggy pop]

But wrestlers aren't paid to act. They are paid to wrestle.

Wrestling is part of the act. It is a fake, phoney, not real, pre-determined. There is no competition.

If you want to call wrestlers "stuntman," than you might as well label people who do other physical sports the same thing.

But other physical sports are not acted, are real, and not pre-determined. There is an actual competition going on. It is illegal to fix the games in these sports, and for good reason because it would ruin the athletic competition.

They're putting their body on the line also. Everyone has skills, different skills. Teachers have skills, doctors, wedding planners, etc. People who play sports have different skills. You think that stuntman and wrestlers have one thing in common and now stuntman do a sport?

I do think what stuntman do are a sport, but I do not think what wrestlers do are a sport eithier.

 

[Tickle Fiend]

So would you people consider amatuer wrestling a sport? That's a part of professional wrestling. And these wrestlers do compete to put on great matches.

 

[Iggy pop]

So would you people consider amatuer wrestling a sport? That's a part of professional wrestling. And these wrestlers do compete to put on great matches.

Yes I do consider amatuer wrestling a sport. Amatuer wrestling differs extremely from Pro wrestling. I'm sorry, I should have clarified that.

 

[storm7400]

What is the point of this pathetic argument? Professional Wrestling is neither a sport nor entertainment solely but its a its own class of sports entertainment. Its scripted outcome with some skits which is the entertainment and the moves and matches are the sports part. What they do in the ring whether you like it or not is competition. I hate this argument because its stupid and pointless. If you don't like professional wrestling don't watch it. I don't like golf but I don't go around bashing it or discrediting as not a sport. Grow up........

 

[Tickle Fiend]

Yes I do consider amatuer wrestling a sport. Amatuer wrestling differs extremely from Pro wrestling. I'm sorry, I should have clarified that.

A lot of wrestlers have an amatuer wrestling background and use it to put on great shows. It's not like they have planned the entire match from the start to finish. It requires a lot of improvisation.

 

[Iggy pop]

What is the point of this pathetic argument? Professional Wrestling is neither a sport nor entertainment solely but its a its own class of sports entertainment. Its scripted outcome with some skits which is the entertainment and the moves and matches are the sports part. What they do in the ring whether you like it or not is competition.

I'm sorry what do in the ring is an act and not a competition. It's much as competition as a fight in a movie.

I hate this argument because its stupid and pointless. If you don't like professional wrestling don't watch it. I don't like golf but I don't go around bashing it or discrediting as not a sport. Grow up........

I'm sorry you do not like my opinion, however, if you can't give me your opinion without a personal attack then please do not post in the thread. It was clearly marked what it was about.

 

[storm7400]

Sorry to interrupt, continue your childish pissing match.

 

[chicago]

If the participants are wearing makeup and/or flamboyant peacock looking outfits... it's not a sport.

 

[Iggy pop]

Sorry to interrupt, continue your childish pissing match.

Can you please not post in this thread again? Thank you and have nice day.

 

[Tickle Fiend]

Sorry to interrupt, continue your childish pissing match.

Weren't you the one who said if you "don't like wrestling don't watch it?" Don't you think that if you don't like this thread you shouldn't post in it. Whoever started this thread just posted their opinion and now a discussion has been started. You can keep throwing out your insults, but the fact of the matter is you're the only person being childish. Since when is debating a topic childish?

 

[Tickle Fiend]

If the participants are wearing makeup and/or flamboyant peacock looking outfits... it's not a sport.

A wrestler's attire is no more peacock looking than the uniform for any sports team.