WWE Sable Returns

[SlaverTickler]

Hay guys, if you want to know more about the return of Rena "Sable" Mero go to www.liveaudiowrestling.com. I for one am glad she's back, and to those who call her a sell out, I have one word...Goldburg. Goldburg once claimed he would never work for Vince McMahon because of the adult theams to the show. Everyone sells out in the end, it's not cool but it's true.

 

[TicklingDuo]

I don't like Sable....as a person OR as a "wrestler". Though I don't like the fact that she did some of what she did in the past, that isn't my reason for not liking her being back. I don't think MOST of the older crew should keep being brought back. It does more to hurt the real wresters than anything else in my opinion.

Ann

 

[Double T]

I didn't vote in this poll, because I honestly don't believe that this is the same woman. Sure, she calls herself Sable, but I don't remember Rena Mero looking like that. I think it's a different woman, and it wouldn't be the first time it's happened

 

[SlaverTickler]

Sorry Double T

Sorry to let you know Double T but this in infact Rena Mero AKA Sable. The former WWF/E champion. She looks the way she does because she in now over 40, and because of how they do her make-up. As for bringing back the older crew hurting the younger crew...how do you hurt the "real wrestler in smack down sorry excuse for a Women's devition. As long as the story is good, and she puts over Torrie Wilson in the end, I'm good with it. Why is it you don't like Sable, I met her once and she seemed very nice to me?

 

[LVTicklr]

The returns of both Sable and Roddy Piper are a major downfall for the WWE,since they don't any longer add anything special to that mere federation,now that Austin can no longer wrestle(at least for now,thanks to his sadly nagging injuries),and Goldberg looks like he's going to be as badly underused as Scott Steiner.
Kurt Angle,please get better really,really quick,and return to your outrageous milk chugging face character when you return,will you?! For we all really,really miss you over there!!

 

[SlaverTickler]

Counter Point to LVticklr

First off, Steiner wasn't under used, he was over-rated. He hasn't been as good in the ring sence he bulked up. In the 80's he was the Kurt Angle of his day, meybe better. Now, Uunfortunetly, he is slower and no where near a floed in the ring. Goldburg sucked when he was at his peak, the guy can't perform a 10 minuet match to save his ass, and I like to see an exchaing of moves not a 2 minuet squash.

As far as Rody Piper goes, if they use him as a mouth peace for other wrestler, an on Piper's Pit he'll be ok. As for Sable, well, Smack down need more female's, and I wouldn't want to see the Diva's on RAW demoted to being CatFighters. Like I said before, so long as Rena Mero puts over Torrie Wilson by the end of there inevitable fued I have no broblems with the return of Sable. If you saw tonights (April 17th) SmackDown, those "I came to see Sable/Ready Willing & Sable" sighns means I'm not alone.

 

[SlaverTickler]

🙂

I knew I was right.

 

[BigJim]

I didn't vote in this poll, because I honestly don't believe that this is the same woman. Sure, she calls herself Sable, but I don't remember Rena Mero looking like that. I think it's a different woman, and it wouldn't be the first time it's happened

Speaking of which, does anyone else here think that the Ultimate Warrior who saved Hogan at Wrestlemania 8 and fought Savage at Summerslam 92 was a different UW to the one before; who fought Savage at Wrestlemania 7 and the Corps with Hogan at Summerslam 91?

 

[SlaverTickler]

WM8

I think the Guy at WM* may have been a different guy, but as far as I know Jimmy Hellwig is the ownly person to portray the Ultimate Warrior in a wrestling match. He sucked almost as bad as Goldberg

 

[BigJim]

Re: WM8

I think the Guy at WM* may have been a different guy, but as far as I know Jimmy Hellwig is the ownly person to portray the Ultimate Warrior in a wrestling match. He sucked almost as bad as Goldberg

He sucked?!?!?!?!?! *temperature rising* Dude, that's my favourite of all time wrestler you're talking about!!!! *fury overriding* How can the only bloke to get a cheer against the Hulk in Canada suck?!?!?!! *fists shaking*

RRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Ahem......... I think I need a cold shower now. 😀

 

[Shem the Penman]

No, the guy at WM8 is our Mr. Hellwig. Or our Mr. Warrior, given that he's legally changed his name ...

I guess I have to ask, why does SD need a women's division at all? I like the women's division on Raw, because it showcases women who can actually wrestle. But Torrie has proven time and again that she's horrible and, unlike Trish, apparently has no interest in improving, so why waste valuable TV time on her? She works perfectly well as some wrestler's valet, and we'd be spared painful crud like, say, her feud with Dawn Marie. I think it's a sorry state of affairs that the women on SD get more attention than the cruiserweights do.

Incidentally, anyone remember that when Sable first left the fed, one of the reasons she gave was that Vince tried to force her into doing a lesbian angle? So now she comes back and, guess what? That's why I have no problem with calling her a sellout. If she found this kind of thing so morally objectionable in 1999 that she quit her job, why is she jumping at the chance to do it now?

As for Piper, I'm on the fence. If he helps get Sean O'Haire over and gives him a good start on a new career, all well and good. If, instead, he focuses on getting himself over, not so good. I'm just hoping the rumors of a Piper-Hogan match at Backlash stay just rumors.

 

[BigJim]

No, the guy at WM8 is our Mr. Hellwig. Or our Mr. Warrior, given that he's legally changed his name ...

He changed his name to Ultimate Warrior????? Oh well, if Bobby Heenan had had his way it would have been Captain Scitzo. I used to love watching the guy wrestle though. The energy he could generate in a crowd was unbelievable and at Wrestlemania 6 he actually had the majority of the crowd on his side. Not many people could say that someone took the cheers off Hogan back then.

I'm just hoping the rumors of a Piper-Hogan match at Backlash stay just rumors.

Urgh! Amen to that brother. Maybe they'll wheel Mr.T off the shelf and dig up Paul Orndorf's corpse from somewhere to re-create Wrestlemania 1. Come to think of it though, I think Ali is in better shape than any of them right now.

 

[j-e-l-l-o]

This is the first time ive heard of sables return since i haven't watched wrestling like i was. I used to be part of a wrestyling forum id post thier LOTS but now since i haven't gone back to that forum since then i haven't watched the wwe as much as i was but i still watch it still just not as much. But i haven't heard anything about sables return till now she was ok looking back then when i say ok looking i ment that because im sure there was way hotter chicks back when she was first in the wwf Days but now that shes 40 or something like you Guys say she is not good😛 but as far if im happy that she returned i dunno i couldn't tell ya if i am or not?

 

[Shem the Penman]

If you're curious as to what the Warrior has been up to lately, click on over to www.ultimatewarrior.com and prepare to be boggled. Warning: the standards of sanity agreed to by the majority of civilized peoples do not apply to this Web site.

Society being but a collective of its individuals, its strength is only as strong as its weakest ones. Warrior individuals know that to counterbalance those who will take the path of least resistance -- and in turn do their best by society -- they must actualize the best of their Creator endowed selves. They do this not for the benefit of its weaker people (although all benefit) but to establish a greater province of safety for themselves and their loved ones, and to insure the continuance of mankind’s moral evolution, and to secure, for posterity’s sake, the continued bequeathment of man’s traditions and traditional history.

Yes, "bequeathment." Warrior just loves making up new words.

 

[BigJim]

He changed his name to Ultimate Warrior????? Oh well, if Bobby Heenan had had his way it would have been Captain Scitzo. I used to love watching the guy wrestle though. The energy he could generate in a crowd was unbelievable and at Wrestlemania 6 he actually had the majority of the crowd on his side. Not many people could say that someone took the cheers off Hogan back then.

Not to mention he had the funkiest, most adrenaline-inducing music in the business!

 

[BigJim]

If you're curious as to what the Warrior has been up to lately, click on over to www.ultimatewarrior.com and prepare to be boggled. Warning: the standards of sanity agreed to by the majority of civilized peoples do not apply to this Web site.



Yes, "bequeathment." Warrior just loves making up new words.

Jesus! This guy is the Kujman of the wrestling world! What the fuck has he been smoking? 😕 😕 😕

 

[BigJim]

Actually, I'll take a little bit of that back. I agree with a lot of what he says about the British Bulldog. I knew at the time Of Davey's spinal injury that it was caused mainly by his bones being ruined by substance abuse. (I was wrestling myself at the time in a very minor way and was working with a guy who'd tagged with the Bulldog on a few occasions during a European tour. According to him, when he and DBS were suiting up, DBS laid out about a dozen needles prior to the match. Ewww.) And I have to agree that Davey's death was different to Owen's.
Slightly stunned by that bit about Davey doping his wife and then raping her, but then I never read Diane Hart-Smith's autobiography. The bloke has definatley got a corn-cob up his ass about society though, don't he? Something tells me he would'nt like my interpretation of the Pantheon of the Revolution.😀 But then I'm English, so I'm allowed to be eccentric aren't I?
He's also of the line of Areenactor and Neutron when it comes to capital punishment.(Although he doesn't know how to spell it. Seems to prefer the "Capitol" that refers to DC. Obviously doesn't know anything about it being named after Capitoline Hill in Rome then?) Nope, dispite me being this guy's biggest fan back in the early 90's, he'd hate my guts.
I don't think it would be possible to hold a calm conversational debate with him. His diea of dealing with anti-war protestors is to punch one in the face and then keep doing it, till he realises that tolerance doesn't work. Hmmmmmmm. Methinks he's either living his character too closely, or his character was based on a very real, very unstable personality.

10-1 he voted Republican.*


*That was a wise-ass remark. Please do not jump on my arse if you are a Republican voter. It was a crack. Okey-day?

 

[WallStreet]

I wasn't able to read every post, so I hope I'm not covering repetitive info.
Shem is correct about the Warrior being Jim Helwig at all phases. Even the Dingo Warrior was Jim Helwig.
As far as the Warrior's ability in the ring goes, I thought that Rick Rude was the only guy that could pull off a good match with him. Even the Warrior's matches with an "in prime" Curt Hennig were stinkers. His match with Hogan totally stank. Warrior was very one dementional. As Big Jim said, he brought alot of energy, and it would be ammusing for the first few months until you got sick of him. Warrior's greatest moment was when the Honky Tonk Man's scheduled opponent didn't show up, and Honky demanded some competition. The Warrior's music hit, and while the music still played, the Warrior ran out, closethlined Honky, pinned him, and ran off with the belt. The music never stopped playing until he ran through the curtains with the belt.
As far as old stars returning, it is a good thing if they are there to help get the younger talent over with the crowd. I think Piper will be acting in this capacity. Hopefully Sable will do the same. What member of the male club wouldn't be happy to see her back. Like her or not, Sable was actually wrestling men even before Chyna. She was revolutionary in the business, as far as Playboy and several other factors. I'm sure she's had plenty of plastic surgeory, so I can understand people thinking it was a fake.
Wrestling is certainly in a sad state as far as new talent. The fact that they still need Hulk and Flair shows that. Think of how bad wrestling would be if Flair left Raw.
The fact the WWE stock is publicly traded means that Vince MUST deliver ratings, and he doesn't have time to slowly develop the "long term" talent the way that he used to. That's why we're seeing a bunch of flashes in the pan.
At least the Rock is smart enough to lose alot of his matches. He knows that it keeps him fresh and unpredictable. I don't perticularly think that the Rock is the greatest in ring worker, but I always watch his matches because you never know when he's going to lose.
My sources indicate that Mr. America will be Hogan under a mask. It will be obvious that it is Hogan, and McMahon will go on a campaign to expose him. It should provide some excellent comedy.

 

[primetime]

the Ultimate Dummy?? man, i am no longer a fan of his. i LOVED it when he lost the title to Sgt. Slaughter!! i used to like the Warrior until one fateful day.....*flashback* April 1, 1990. Toronto Canada. the GREATEST WWF champion of all time Hulk Hogan lost his title to the Ultimate dummy. talk about heartbreak. talk about dreams being crushed. why Vince ever decided to give that lunatic the title and beat Hogan cleanly is beyond me. oh sure, Warrior was cool running down the aisle, shaking the ropes and he provided great energy. but remember his interviews? what the hell was he talking about? i loved watching the Warrior until he beat the ICON Hulk Hogan. that day will forever live in infamy.....

as for Sable returning, i like it. hell, it gives Torrie Wilson something to do. Piper returning is okay, but if you think about, Smackdown needs SOMEONE to be a good heel. why not one of the greatest heels of all time? right now, the younger talent do not have the charisma to carry the load. it may be a while before it does...

 

[BigJim]

but remember his interviews? what the hell was he talking about? i loved watching the Warrior until he beat the ICON Hulk Hogan. that day will forever live in infamy.....

His interviews? Yeah I guess he based them on the way he talks in real life. I think the guy even manages to out-shit Jimmy Snuka in promo cutting. Stunning.

As for Wrestlemania VI, well I liked that because I was always a Warrior fan. He held the title till the next Royal Rumble came round too, when Slaughter took it, which lead to one of my favourite matches of all time, at Wrestlemania VII. (Warrior V Savage in a retirement match.)

 

[BigJim]

Even the Warrior's matches with an "in prime" Curt Hennig were stinkers.

Warrior fought Mr. Perfect? The only time I remember the two clashing was at Survivor Series in 1990 as part of the first elimination match. Oddly enough at Summerslam 91 Bret Hart supposedly gained great renown as the first man to kick out of the Perfect Plex, but the Warrior did it at the aforemtnioned Survivor Series and neither Piper or Monsoon (the two commentators) blinked an eyelid about it.

His match with Hogan totally stank. Warrior was very one dementional. As Big Jim said, he brought alot of energy, and it would be ammusing for the first few months until you got sick of him. Warrior's greatest moment was when the Honky Tonk Man's scheduled opponent didn't show up, and Honky demanded some competition. The Warrior's music hit, and while the music still played, the Warrior ran out, closethlined Honky, pinned him, and ran off with the belt. The music never stopped playing until he ran through the curtains with the belt.

OMG!!! That was Summerslam 88 (the first ever Summerslam) and I was in hysterics when I saw that match. Honky had been IC champion for 13 months and was reckoned undefeatable. Then Warrior minces in, three right hands, a body slam, a clothesline and a splash from the ropes and it's over. That was so f***ing funny.

It will be obvious that it is Hogan, and McMahon will go on a campaign to expose him. It should provide some excellent comedy.

Hogan under a mask? Yup, put the fork in him and turn him over. He's done.

 

[SlaverTickler]

Counter Point to Everything

First off Torrie Wilson doesn't suck, well she might but not as a wrestler. Rena Mero (or a rep of her's ) replied to and E-mail I sent and she said she has no problem putting torie over she think Miss Wilson (or Mrs Billy Kiman) is great. Next, when Hogan fought the Warrior, he had the majority of the fans on his side. It may have be as little as 54% to 46% but I was there. When me and my Dad left the Dome I was very quiet wit maybe a half a dosen people yelling out WAAAARIOR every so often.

 

[BigJim]

Ric Flair was the greatest ever champ??????? Eeeeeeekk!!!!!!


I never understood why Ric was so highly thought of in wrestling circles, because he' taken some of the most unconvincing bumps in history. And what the fuck is that sctoopid dance he does before falling flat on his face???
I think only Curt Henig was ever so great with such a bad bump technique. For another reason with Hennig though. He used to massivley over-react to shots he took. The funniest was at Summerslam 90 when he lost the IC title to the Texas Tornado. Von Erich threw his Discus Punch and Hennig spun in the OPPOSITE direction the punch would have knocked him! 😕 😕 😕