WWE Smackdown *SPOILER*

[Armpit_licker]

Realllly looking forward to seeing Batista go face to face with the Show tomorrow. His fan reaction keeps getting bigger and bigger. The guy is a "blue chipper, a stud"(to steal JR's words) and has quickly turned into one of my favs.

 

[Leo tickles]

I was at RAW Monday night, AWESOME! Can't wait for Batista on SD!. Wanna see what happens.

 

[jugner]

Looking forward to it

 

[TklDuo-Ann]

I'm sure much will happen between now and WrestleMania. The thing I'm still waiting for is to see him turn on and destroy HHH. Of course, now that I've said that, it'll never happen. I've been enjoying him jerking the chain every week, though. He seems to have found a new focus and presence.

Ann

 

[morgandavis]

according to rumors i've heard, triple h vs batista will definitely happen

 

[Krazy]

Def looking forward to Wm 21..i hope its a good match

 

[Armpit_licker]

Batista looked sharper then Krazy's pic of Pac and took care of business tonight... Loved the ending.

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

Agreed, good ending.

I also hope something meaningful comes out of Luther's comment about it being "his yard now".

He's clearly stated what we already know, but something nobody (any wrestler) has said in a long time- That the Undertaker beats people before he even gets into the ring by intimidation. And that its not going to be enough and theres nothing Taker could possibly do.

Reigns really said alot of $hit in not so many words, so unlike the Heidenreik(sp?) situation, I hope something big comes out of this Reigns/Taker situation and we get awesome performances out of both.

As for Heidenreik, seeing him back, even more disturbed than he was before is stupid. When someone is in a casket match and the champion of said matches says "your final resting place has been selected", we're not supposed to see this person again.

What threat is it really if Heidenreik comes back from what the Undertaker practically promised would be his last moments, before the so-called ending match?

I honestly thought they were setting up the Taker/Heidenreik situation as a means to get rid of Heidenreik (letting him go). To see him back really makes the whole confrontation the two had pointless.

Oh well, maybe something better will come along with Booker T confronting Heidenreik.

 

[Armpit_licker]

Speaking of Taker... Rumor is he may face Randy "the legend killer" Orton at WrestleMania. Orton may have a heel turn(since they fucked him up by turning him face too early) before WM this year. It would be the Legend Killer against the Dead Man who is undefeated at WrestleMania's.

 

[Leo tickles]

Taker versues Hedienwhatever was to set up an interpromotional match. Tag match between Kane/Taker, Hedienwhatever/Snitsky. That's why Snitsky interfered and Kane helped his brother. It will be intresting to see how they carry this out, as no more PPV'S are combined until Mania.🙂

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

I understand, but you know what I mean, right? I mean, come on, the idea is that the character is dead after the Undertaker gets through with them. Dead as in buried in a casket and you'll never see them again.

Whats the point in going through a storyline promising the end of a character if that will never be delivered? Its sort of like how Taker let Hayman off the hook several times for no reason good enough.

This all hurts the Undertaker's believability as a ruthless, cold, and calulating character who means what he says.

While I do no expect any wrestler he faces to be "buried alive" (ie- dead), simply because its the Undertaker doing it, it sure seemed like they were going in this direction.

Its just counteracting the worth of the script. If Heidenreik can seemingly recover from a confrontation with the Undertaker almost as if it never happened at all, then what threat is there in the Undertaker?

If the script writers, and by extension, McMahon cannot afford or does not want to afford to lose this particular talent just yet, they shouldn't have had the casket match, but rather, just a more barbaric, sadistic match or something. That way Heidenreik remains to fight Taker later in said fight you mention, but gets the crap beaten out of him in this one, and Taker doesn't have to blow smoke about him making sure Heidenreik will rest in peace, etc, etc.

"You'll rest in peace."

"No, not really. I'll be back next week."

Thats basically whats happened. LOL

 

[Shem the Penman]

By the same logic, Undertaker should have stayed gone after losing his Buried Alive match with Vince -- after all, he wasn't merely put in a coffin, he was covered up with quite a lot of dirt as well, and people don't usually come back from that either.

As for Reigns/Undertaker, I think Reigns has some potential (unlike Heidenreich or Snitsky) -- he didn't embarrass himself in his PPV match with Eddie. Still, I don't think being Taker's latest job boy is going to do much for him.

And I'd much rather see Orton/Taker at Wrestlemania than Kane and Taker / Snitsky and Heidenreich, which would be an easy contender for worst match of the year unless a miracle occurs.

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

True, by that logic he should have been gone also. But in the fantasy of his story, which is probably why more than 70% of why fans like him so much, he's the "dead man". And one could argue, simply as a plot device, that it wasn't his time yet or that he called upon whatever "power" he had and resurfaced as the dead man, rather than the biker.

It makes sense even though its completely fictional.

With Heidenreich however he was to be buried. He's no Undertaker and doesn't have any "powers". He's an ordinary man without a gimmick other than he's insane, so he would have/should have been gone. But we see him later as if it never happened at all.

And if it seems like it never really happened at all (which it didn't, but again, in the fantasy of it all) then why even bother doing this at all? Its a contradiction of the whole thing.

When you bury someone or you kill them, they're dead. They don't come back. We all know its fake and just a plot device, but if you're going to utilize it, it should be when theres plans to actually ex a wrestler and they and the wrestler are absolutely sure that the contract will not be extended and this wrestler will never return, that way its final and the doom of the character is followed through. Sort of like how it was with Hogan when McMahon proved that he was Mr. America. We haven't seen him in a wrestling role in the WWE since.

So he is as good as fired, as McMahon said and promised. But Heidenreich is not "dead". Therefore the Undertaker was nothing more than an idle threat.

They shouldn't use extreme plot devices like this if they aren't ready to reorganize the script afterwards. They dropped the ball, and while alot of people don't care, I'm sure alot of people noticed.

Its just one of those small things that shouldn't have happened. But the contexts in which it did are not small at all, so its irritating, at least for me.

 

[BigJim]

By the same logic, Undertaker should have stayed gone after losing his Buried Alive match with Vince -- after all, he wasn't merely put in a coffin, he was covered up with quite a lot of dirt as well, and people don't usually come back from that either.

If memory serves, it was at least the second time Taker's been back from that fate, and about the fourth time from a similar one.

 

[morgandavis]

they're trying to promote heidenreich now because apparently fans are starting to "identify" with him, and by that i mean fans who are male, middle class, and white, and they're the same ones you meet at school who claim to you (in private) that "when i get mad, i'm like a raging psychopath!" to which you answer "who isn't" which they respond "but i'm even worse!" as they show you a knife which they get suspended for after the principal gets noticed of it and they claim they will get revenge because life treated them unfairly

but they'll never fail like common people

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

But they're still just people and when they're dead they die. 😛

Promoting Heidenreich is fine, but I think they should have done it without the embarassement of the casket match. It makes the already fake make-believe of the show even more fake, and it makes the Undertaker and all his gimmicks seem pointless and trivial.

If the Undertaker can't do his job (lets not forget what an undertaker is) than whats the point to the gimmick? A guy is "dead" or "gone" one week but then back another ready to feud with someone else? Yeah...sure....the Undertaker really showed him.

While this show is based on an episode-per episode basis, it IS in continuity, its not completely random. So the flow of things shouldn't be disturbed or contradicted the way this situation was with Taker and Heidenreich was.

At the very least, they did things in the wrong order. If Undertaker was going to do this anyway, it might as well have been after Heidenreich has outlived his usefulness and its ok to say he's dead and never actually bring him back.